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  • Dakota308
    welcome my friend welcome
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  • fishkiller41
    Shouldn't the "I HATE COMMIEFORNIA" be made a "STICKY"?
    I swear, someone posts it daily![V]
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  • needmyguns
    IF IT WERE ME I WOULD MOVE.NO WAY WOULD I LIVE IN COMMIE FORNIA..JUST MY 2 CENTS.
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  • Nhoppt
    ya, well, i got no choice but to live here in the hippie state.i am only 21 and i own property that was passed down from my family, so, i am kinda stuck in the state.
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  • watrulookinat
    Yeah...but It's a nice place to visit. There are some real beautiful places in Cali. But I would never live there for the obvious.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    Welcome to Alabama[:)]
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  • fishkiller41
    quote:Originally posted by Nhoppt
    ya, well, i got no choice but to live here in the hippie state.i am only 21 and i own property that was passed down from my family, so, i am kinda stuck in the state.

    You own it now? Then, by God, you can SELL it.
    If I were you(wich i'm glab i'm not) i would have it on the market tomoro, and be lookin for a spread in Montana,Tennessee,Idaho,Where ever. NO ONE is forcing you to live in a place that you HATE..
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  • zipperzap
    LOL ... yeah, if I led a little myopic one dimensional gun world ... I suppose I'd move to Alabama, too.

    Fortunately, my world is a bit bigger than that! You couldn't pay me enough to have to live elsewhere. Been all over every state (except North Dakota) since I was a small little kid.

    No thank you ... this is the closest to my perception of `life-style perfection' I've ever found in the U.S. Zonnieland is just a quick 2 1/2 hours away ... if I ever need to shoot 30 round clip fed AKs or ARs - otherwise, I can't think of one reason to leave. You're welcome to my share of the other 49!
    [8D]
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  • rmeyer
    Wow the whole night shift pounced on you. Kinda surprised not even 1 to support you even in California. Just tell them it's opinions like theirs that make you own more then you'll ever need. I live in Cali to and have never had that heated of a debate with anyone over my rights.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    Might be time for a move...Maybe all true Americans should just retreat out of the PRK...turn them over to themselves. They would probably self destruct in short order.
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  • daveald
    every day cut out the stories about crooks and burglars killing there victims, may-be we could help by cutting them out in our home town papers. collect them for a few days or a few weeks and take them in and ask your co-workers if they would like to see there names in the paper.
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  • ElMuertoMonkey
    Nhoppt,

    Tell them if it makes them feel any better, women are gang-raped all over the country (and indeed the entire world) without the aid of guns.

    Without guns, society devolves into survival of the fittest, not the most just or even the smartest - without an equalizer, those who possess the most strength will prevail whether they are in the right or not.

    Now maybe these California cowards like the idea of being able to rape whomever they please, but I for one do not, nor does any true-blue gun owner.

    Gun owners, more than any other segment of society, are the least likely to say, "Not my problem." When we someone in distress, we offer aid. When we see a wrong, we do our best to right it. We don't wait for the cops or the government or that hopefully omnipresent "someone else" to solve problems, we do it ourselves.

    Tell them that if they are for disarming everyone, they are for letting every woman in America be raped by whoever can force themselves upon them, that they are pro-rape, pro-crime, and pro-murder because a gun ban will not stop violence - it will increase it and they will have no one to blame but themselves.
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  • nemesisenforcer
    to hell with them. they are entitled to their beliefs and are perfectly free to not own guns if they so choose.
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  • FrancF
    quote:Originally posted by Nhoppt
    i just got into the second argument of the week about gun rights. Apperently my tree hugging co-workers believe that there should be a law that prohibits ALL guns in the U.S. Although there were only two people that were makeing there points agianst gun rights the whole night shift decided to jump in and go against me as well. I was the only one that was for gun rights.I felt cornered! All of them belived that people like me were the reason that there was violence and death in the world. I tried to get my point accross but no one would let me get a word in. Someone make me feel better about protecting and argueing for my beliefs. I HATE CA!


    You weenie-[:D] Stand your ground and don't let the Anti's win another state. I stay here just to piss them off and the voice be heard.
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  • JamesRK
    If you choose to stay in California you should stay in California. It's even OK to lie to me and the rest of the world that you have no choice. You really should be honest with yourself though. If you stay in California, it's because you choose to stay.

    Your reasons for staying remind me of a lot of the former (now unemployed) coal miners in West Virginia. "My grandfather and father were born, lived and died here, and by God, I'll live and die here." "I would rather work for a living, but nobody will give me a job."

    If you want to work for a living, you have to go to the place where you can work for a living. Much the same way if you want to be happy, you have to go to a place where you can be happy. Old zipperzap chooses to stay in California, but he'll tell you straight out that he likes California better than the other forty-nine states. If I liked California more than Virginia I would live in California. As it happens I don't care much for the place.

    If you are tied to a place because of work or family or other reasons, then you are tied to the place, BUT, if you want to leave that place you can start working on making the change. When I left Alabama I left family. When I left North Carolina I left family. When I left New Jersey I sold property. When I left Virginia I sold property. When I returned to Virginia I bought property. I live in Virginia because I like Virginia more than the other forty-nine states. I've lived in several places I didn't want to, but each time it was temporary and I knew it.

    There is no such thing as a free country any more, but you live in the country with the most freedom of any country on earth. Don't find yourself tied to a place you hate when you are an old man saying "I didn't have a choice."
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  • zipperzap
    quote:Maybe all true Americans should just retreat out of the PRK

    LOL ... yeah - right. What a load of BS.

    ... I probably wouldn't leave this terrible place ... because;

    I'll give you some probable reasons to live here - you give me a list of why you like your area. Let's compare.

    ... I probably wouldn't leave this terrible place ... probably because;

    ... the average temperature around here is about 72?F during the 'hottest months' of the year.

    Probably, because the weather is mild all year around - we aren't forced to hide in our houses for months on end because of rain, snow or cold.

    Probably, because there aren't any biting flies or mosquitos where I live.

    Probably, because there are mountains just 50 minutes away by car - beautiful deserts an
    hour away - the largest ocean in the world 14 minutes away - a foreign country 30 minutes away.

    Probably, some of the finest hunting you could wish for close by - we've even got some good big horn sheep hunting up in our local desert mountains.

    Probably, because there are 22 miles of beaches here in San Diego full of beautiful
    college co-eds from three enormous universities and about 10 community colleges.

    Probably, because we don't have to contend with hurricanes, twisters, ice storms, blizzards, snow, lightening storms, hail, floods, wind storms.

    Probably, because there is no humidity in the summer or even water rationing.

    Probably - and a big one - because I like ocean/sports fishing/salmon fishing and to boat around in an ocean of water instead of a little puddle or two down the road in 'Hoedunk.' I still SCUBA dive a few times a year with my sons and there just 'ain't nothin' like a dive in the kelp beds on a clear sunny day.

    The kids and grandkids are all surfing - and I still enjoy body surfing during the summers - just 14 minutes away.

    Probably, because I can water ski on the ocean, bay(s), lakes, or Colorado River if I want - or snow ski close by.

    ... speaking of skiing and snowboarding, ever hear of Mount Shasta, Northstar at Tahoe,
    Squaw Valley, Alpine Meadows, Sierra at Tahoe, Homewood Mountain Resort, Mammoth Mountain, Tahoe Donner, Big Bear, Heavenly, Soda Springs or Sugar Bowl?

    Probably, because the second largest American city in the country is 120 miles north of here.

    World class aerospace museum close by - about 15 minutes by car.

    Probably, because I can eat any kind of exotic cuisine I want - and find it just minutes away. Since Mexican, Vietnamese and Thai are favorites - I'm in cuisine heaven ... hundreds of choices to choose from - close by - and not so far away.

    Probably, because the state is the size of Japan or England.

    Probably because Yosemite National Park, King's Canyon National Park, Sequoia National Park, The Redwood Forests, Death Valley, The Mojavi, and Anza Borrego deserts.

    Probably because Baja - the `Big Desert Lonely' is just south of here - 20 miles south.
    Think sports fishing is good here - absolutely fantastic there! Still pretty cheap, too.

    Probably, because the world's biggest zoo (actually two of them) are here. and there is a huge Sea World here.

    Probably, because one of the most beautiful parks and botanical gardens is just 15 minutes away. Probably, because there is a world class oceanographic institute here.

    Probably, along with Sea World, there is a world class state of the art aquarium here, too.

    Probably, because the Yuba and Feather Rivers, gold prospecting, panning and all the fun that goes along with them.

    Probably because I like trout fishing while I'm camping on the trout rivers throughout the state.

    Probably, because we have more Indian casinos than any other county in the country - no need to travel to vegas to give my money away!.

    Probably, because Las Vegas is 40 minutes away (if I feel the need to support Nevadans) by air/an easy drive by car.

    .. and lastly, and most certainly, because I'm not stuck living in the place you've settled for ... and you can't live here... that probably pretty well sums it up.[:D]

    ... did I mention whale watching, Disneyland, Knotts or Universal Studios?

    Now, why in the world would I want to move away from here? Haven't had the desire for 52 years - probably won't ... so, what's your state got to offer to lure me and my family away?

    Change my mind.
    [:D]
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  • JamesRK
    Zip, why would anybody want to change your mind. I'm glad you like it there. By the way, Virginia sucks. [:D]
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  • zipperzap
    I dunno why - nobody ever has ... and that makes the difference.
    [:D]
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  • Laredo Lefty
    quote:Originally posted by zipperzap
    quote:Maybe all true Americans should just retreat out of the PRK

    LOL ... yeah - right. What a load of BS.

    ... I probably wouldn't leave this terrible place ... because;

    I'll give you some probable reasons to live here - you give me a list of why you like your area. Let's compare.

    ... I probably wouldn't leave this terrible place ... probably because;

    ... the average temperature around here is about 72?F during the 'hottest months' of the year.

    Probably, because the weather is mild all year around - we aren't forced to hide in our houses for months on end because of rain, snow or cold.

    Probably, because there aren't any biting flies or mosquitos where I live.

    Probably, because there are mountains just 50 minutes away by car - beautiful deserts an
    hour away - the largest ocean in the world 14 minutes away - a foreign country 30 minutes away.

    Probably, some of the finest hunting you could wish for close by - we've even got some good big horn sheep hunting up in our local desert mountains.

    Probably, because there are 22 miles of beaches here in San Diego full of beautiful
    college co-eds from three enormous universities and about 10 community colleges.

    Probably, because we don't have to contend with hurricanes, twisters, ice storms, blizzards, snow, lightening storms, hail, floods, wind storms.

    Probably, because there is no humidity in the summer or even water rationing.

    Probably - and a big one - because I like ocean/sports fishing/salmon fishing and to boat around in an ocean of water instead of a little puddle or two down the road in 'Hoedunk.' I still SCUBA dive a few times a year with my sons and there just 'ain't nothin' like a dive in the kelp beds on a clear sunny day.

    The kids and grandkids are all surfing - and I still enjoy body surfing during the summers - just 14 minutes away.

    Probably, because I can water ski on the ocean, bay(s), lakes, or Colorado River if I want - or snow ski close by.

    ... speaking of skiing and snowboarding, ever hear of Mount Shasta, Northstar at Tahoe,
    Squaw Valley, Alpine Meadows, Sierra at Tahoe, Homewood Mountain Resort, Mammoth Mountain, Tahoe Donner, Big Bear, Heavenly, Soda Springs or Sugar Bowl?

    Probably, because the second largest American city in the country is 120 miles north of here.

    World class aerospace museum close by - about 15 minutes by car.

    Probably, because I can eat any kind of exotic cuisine I want - and find it just minutes away. Since Mexican, Vietnamese and Thai are favorites - I'm in cuisine heaven ... hundreds of choices to choose from - close by - and not so far away.

    Probably, because the state is the size of Japan or England.

    Probably because Yosemite National Park, King's Canyon National Park, Sequoia National Park, The Redwood Forests, Death Valley, The Mojavi, and Anza Borrego deserts.

    Probably because Baja - the `Big Desert Lonely' is just south of here - 20 miles south.
    Think sports fishing is good here - absolutely fantastic there! Still pretty cheap, too.

    Probably, because the world's biggest zoo (actually two of them) are here. and there is a huge Sea World here.

    Probably, because one of the most beautiful parks and botanical gardens is just 15 minutes away. Probably, because there is a world class oceanographic institute here.

    Probably, along with Sea World, there is a world class state of the art aquarium here, too.

    Probably, because the Yuba and Feather Rivers, gold prospecting, panning and all the fun that goes along with them.

    Probably because I like trout fishing while I'm camping on the trout rivers throughout the state.

    Probably, because we have more Indian casinos than any other county in the country - no need to travel to vegas to give my money away!.

    Probably, because Las Vegas is 40 minutes away (if I feel the need to support Nevadans) by air/an easy drive by car.

    .. and lastly, and most certainly, because I'm not stuck living in the place you've settled for ... and you can't live here... that probably pretty well sums it up.[:D]

    ... did I mention whale watching, Disneyland, Knotts or Universal Studios?

    Now, why in the world would I want to move away from here? Haven't had the desire for 52 years - probably won't ... so, what's your state got to offer to lure me and my family away?

    Change my mind.
    [:D]




    Nhoppt....... Your problem is not where you live, its where you work. Sounds like you work with a bunch of uneducated fools.


    Well put Zipper......... I was born here and love it. I can see the ocean from my house. The desert is 90 mins away, the mountains are 90 mins away. Great weather all year. I dont have to walk in 2 ft of snow for 3 months of the year.

    The only 2 things I would improve about Calif are the gun laws and illegal aliens.
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  • Zebra
    I grew up as a child and teenager in Pacific Beach and Crown Point areas of San Diego. My 1st summer job was at Vacation Village. I wouldn't trade those memories for nothing! I miss surfing down by Crystal Pier, Capri by the sea, boogie boarding Bird Rock and skiing Mission Bay in the 70's Miss that place! [:)]
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  • Hunter Mag
    Tell em how much it costs to do all those things and the cost of living in Kalifornia?
    Don't tell me I already know.
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  • chollagardens
    Zipper in the 50s 60s and 70s I would have agreed with you that California was a fine place to live. It wasn't the only great place to live but one of the best. I don't believe that is true anymore. One of the reasons you gave is the climate. That has remained unchanged. Most of the reasons you gave have to do with recreation areas/facilities/attractions/parks. Most of these are much less than they were but are still nice to a degree. Other than "full of beautiful college co-eds" you didn't mention people. I believe that was what Nhoppt was talking about. There are way too many people in California and more than an average amount are weird. Before you create a stampede of new people to California I modified your post with a little additional information;


    ... I probably wouldn't leave this terrible place ... because;

    I'll give you some probable reasons to live here - you give me a list of why you like your area. Let's compare.

    ... I probably wouldn't leave this terrible place ... probably because;

    ... the average temperature around here is about 72?F during the 'hottest months' of the year.

    If you live in Laaaa Jooollaaa or with in 15 miles of the Beach. Majove desert gets hotter than the hinges on the gates of hell.

    Probably, because the weather is mild all year around - we aren't forced to hide in our houses for months on end because of rain, snow or cold.

    We need to stay home to guard our family's lives and possessions from illegals, druggies, politicians, breaucrats ect but most need to get out and husstle because the house payment on a crackerjack size house is over $500,000.00.

    Probably, because there aren't any biting flies or mosquitos where I live.

    Except for head lice the kids bring home form school every once in a while. Also the perodic infestations of bedbugs in the homeless shelter. The homeless shelter is real close to PetCo Park home of the Padres. Not to fear the powers to be nuke the exotic little pests, including agricultural pests with mountains of pesticides.

    Probably, because there are mountains just 50 minutes away by car -

    That would have to be Mt Soledad as it would take 2 hours to make it with a reasonable chance of living to reach Julian.
    beautiful deserts an
    hour away- (mostly look don't touch micromanaged) the largest ocean in the world 14 minutes away
    Just watch out for used syringes in the sand on the beach? Just make sure you don't go in the water when a sewer line breaks. The sewer lines break real often. - a foreign country 30 minutes away. If you want excitement hang around the border on either side.

    Probably, some of the finest hunting you could wish for close by - we've even got some good big horn sheep hunting up in our local desert mountains. Much of the desert mountains are 1.State park-no hunting 2. Indian reservation-no hunting with out permission, good luck with that 3. Private property-no hunting with out permission. Conservation land owners are likey as not to shoot. Liberal land owners probably would call the sheriff and have anyone hunting on their land arrested.

    Probably, because there are 22 miles of beaches here in San Diego full of beautiful
    college co-eds, unless you go to Blacks Beach, from three enormous universities and about 10 community colleges. Many beaches are hard to get to. Others are on military bases. Camp Pendelton, North Island. Others are protected because of habitat. South beaches have sewage problems from that exotic country to the South. Some are close to sewer lines and the sewer lines do break often.

    Probably, because we don't have to contend with hurricanes, twisters, ice storms, blizzards, snow (except Mount Shasta, Northstar at Tahoe, Squaw Valley, Alpine Meadows, Sierra at Tahoe, Homewood Mountain Resort, Mammoth Mountain, Tahoe Donner, Big Bear, Heavenly, Soda Springs or Sugar Bowl), lightening storms, hail, floods, wind storms. Just wild fires, earthquakes, rip tides, Santa Anas(wind storms with a exotic name) ect.

    Probably, because there is no humidity in the summer or even water rationing. Just remember when you picnic the park grass may have been watered by recycled water(toilet household water).

    Probably - and a big one - because I like ocean/sports fishing/salmon fishing and to boat around in an ocean of water instead of a little puddle or two down the road in 'Hoedunk.' I still SCUBA dive a few times a year with my sons and there just 'ain't nothin' like a dive in the kelp beds on a clear sunny day when the sewer pipes havn't dumped human waste into the ocean. Be sure to check out the Fish and game laws. They are long. They are complex and they cover almost everything.

    The kids and grandkids are all surfing - and I still enjoy body surfing during the summers - just 14 minutes away. Just remember to check if alcohol is allowed. The laws have recently changed after the minor riot in Mission/Pacific beach. The authorities think less beer will help decrease the crime.

    Probably, because I can water ski on the ocean, bay(s), lakes, or Colorado River if I want - or snow ski close by. If you consider Mount Shasta, Northstar at Tahoe, Squaw Valley, Alpine Meadows, Sierra at Tahoe, Homewood Mountain Resort, Mammoth Mountain, Tahoe Donner, Big Bear, Heavenly, Soda Springs or Sugar Bowl close by.

    ... speaking of skiing and snowboarding, ever hear of Mount Shasta, Northstar at Tahoe,
    Squaw Valley, Alpine Meadows, Sierra at Tahoe, Homewood Mountain Resort, Mammoth Mountain, Tahoe Donner, Big Bear, Heavenly, Soda Springs or Sugar Bowl?

    Probably, because the second largest American city in the country is 80 miles, 90 miles, 100 miles, 120 miles, 130 miles, 140 miles, ect north of here.

    World class aerospace museum close by - about 15 minutes by car. OK Zipper isn't exagerating about that

    Probably, because I can eat any kind of exotic cuisine I want - and find it just minutes away. And a medical facility to deworm me later Since Mexican, Vietnamese and Thai are favorites - I'm in cuisine heaven ... hundreds of choices to choose from - close by - and not so far away.

    Probably, because the state is the size of Japan or England.

    Probably because Yosemite National Park, King's Canyon National Park, Sequoia National Park, The Redwood Forests, Death Valley, The Mojavi, and Anza Borrego deserts. Bring money expect crowds.

    Probably because Baja - the `Big Desert Lonely' is just south of here - 20 miles south. Make sure you have insurance. Get in a wreck w/o insurance and the Mexicans let you die before they let you get medical aid.
    Think sports fishing is good here - absolutely fantastic there! Still pretty cheap, too.

    Probably, because the world's biggest zoo (actually two of them) are here. and there is a huge Sea World here. Bring more money.

    Probably, because one of the most beautiful parks and botanical gardens is just 15 minutes away. Probably, because there is a world class oceanographic institute here.

    Probably, along with Sea World, there is a world class state of the art aquarium here, too. Bring more money.

    Probably, because the Yuba and Feather Rivers, gold prospecting, panning and all the fun that goes along with them.

    Probably because I like trout fishing while I'm camping on the trout rivers throughout the upper part of the state.

    Probably, because we have more Indian casinos than any other county in the country - no need to travel to vegas to give my money away!.

    Probably, because Las Vegas is 40 minutes away, plus an eternty to board the plane. (if I feel the need to support Nevadans) by air/an easy drive by car unless you go Friday night.

    .. and lastly, and most certainly, because I'm not stuck living in the place you've settled for ... and you can't live here... that probably pretty well sums it up.

    ... did I mention whale watching, Disneyland [}:)][}:)][}:)]it' a small world after all[}:)][}:)][}:)], Knotts or Universal Studios? Bring more money.

    Now, why in the world would I want to move away from here? Haven't had the desire for 52 years - probably won't ... so, what's your state got to offer to lure me and my family away?

    Live free outside a guilded cage.

    Change my mind.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    quote:Originally posted by zipperzap
    quote:Maybe all true Americans should just retreat out of the PRK

    LOL ... yeah - right. What a load of BS.

    ... I probably wouldn't leave this terrible place ... because;

    I'll give you some probable reasons to live here - you give me a list of why you like your area. Let's compare.

    ... I probably wouldn't leave this terrible place ... probably because;

    ... the average temperature around here is about 72?F during the 'hottest months' of the year.

    Probably, because the weather is mild all year around - we aren't forced to hide in our houses for months on end because of rain, snow or cold.

    Probably, because there aren't any biting flies or mosquitos where I live.

    Probably, because there are mountains just 50 minutes away by car - beautiful deserts an
    hour away - the largest ocean in the world 14 minutes away - a foreign country 30 minutes away.

    Probably, some of the finest hunting you could wish for close by - we've even got some good big horn sheep hunting up in our local desert mountains.

    Probably, because there are 22 miles of beaches here in San Diego full of beautiful
    college co-eds from three enormous universities and about 10 community colleges.

    Probably, because we don't have to contend with hurricanes, twisters, ice storms, blizzards, snow, lightening storms, hail, floods, wind storms.

    Probably, because there is no humidity in the summer or even water rationing.

    Probably - and a big one - because I like ocean/sports fishing/salmon fishing and to boat around in an ocean of water instead of a little puddle or two down the road in 'Hoedunk.' I still SCUBA dive a few times a year with my sons and there just 'ain't nothin' like a dive in the kelp beds on a clear sunny day.

    The kids and grandkids are all surfing - and I still enjoy body surfing during the summers - just 14 minutes away.

    Probably, because I can water ski on the ocean, bay(s), lakes, or Colorado River if I want - or snow ski close by.

    ... speaking of skiing and snowboarding, ever hear of Mount Shasta, Northstar at Tahoe,
    Squaw Valley, Alpine Meadows, Sierra at Tahoe, Homewood Mountain Resort, Mammoth Mountain, Tahoe Donner, Big Bear, Heavenly, Soda Springs or Sugar Bowl?

    Probably, because the second largest American city in the country is 120 miles north of here.

    World class aerospace museum close by - about 15 minutes by car.

    Probably, because I can eat any kind of exotic cuisine I want - and find it just minutes away. Since Mexican, Vietnamese and Thai are favorites - I'm in cuisine heaven ... hundreds of choices to choose from - close by - and not so far away.

    Probably, because the state is the size of Japan or England.

    Probably because Yosemite National Park, King's Canyon National Park, Sequoia National Park, The Redwood Forests, Death Valley, The Mojavi, and Anza Borrego deserts.

    Probably because Baja - the `Big Desert Lonely' is just south of here - 20 miles south.
    Think sports fishing is good here - absolutely fantastic there! Still pretty cheap, too.

    Probably, because the world's biggest zoo (actually two of them) are here. and there is a huge Sea World here.

    Probably, because one of the most beautiful parks and botanical gardens is just 15 minutes away. Probably, because there is a world class oceanographic institute here.

    Probably, along with Sea World, there is a world class state of the art aquarium here, too.

    Probably, because the Yuba and Feather Rivers, gold prospecting, panning and all the fun that goes along with them.

    Probably because I like trout fishing while I'm camping on the trout rivers throughout the state.

    Probably, because we have more Indian casinos than any other county in the country - no need to travel to vegas to give my money away!.

    Probably, because Las Vegas is 40 minutes away (if I feel the need to support Nevadans) by air/an easy drive by car.

    .. and lastly, and most certainly, because I'm not stuck living in the place you've settled for ... and you can't live here... that probably pretty well sums it up.[:D]

    ... did I mention whale watching, Disneyland, Knotts or Universal Studios?

    Now, why in the world would I want to move away from here? Haven't had the desire for 52 years - probably won't ... so, what's your state got to offer to lure me and my family away?

    Change my mind.
    [:D]




    Absolutely Nothing Zip...you just stay right where you are!

    ...probably wouldn't last long in this neck of the woods anyway. We have an open season on Californians around these parts.[;)][}:)]
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  • Highball
    When guns are merely a 'sport'..laws restricting them are rather meaningless.

    When guns represent something called 'freedom' to a person..they aquire rather more meaning.

    Many...if not most are quite content with the 'sporting' connotation for firearms.
    Therefore..endless playing is indeed rather more important then a nebulous concept such as 'freedom'.
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  • Nhoppt
    ok, i was a little harsh on CA, i was really upset, since i was being backed into a corner. bottom line for me not leaving is,..I like it here, ALL my family is here,my friends and most importantly,my family history is here. The property i spoke of, my great-grandfather got the money for the land by bootlegging alcohol during the prohabition. it would be really hard for me to leave all that behind.

    the probelm i have is that people here have such a narrow minded view on firearms, and for some reason, on a monthly basis i am defending my beliefs,views, and rights,...But i do thank you all for the advice and support!!!! It helps[:D]
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  • Mk 19
    I keep hearing people say that California is against guns, there may be some people that are but there are also a ton of people that are pro gun. Just for an example, the shop that I work at has sold over 2000 guns in the past 5 months that we have been open. And to think that people said that nobody buys guns in CA.
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  • jpwolf
    Nhoppt, don't forget to tell these people that, In view of their opinions on guns, you promise not to use yours to defend them if they are ever being raped, robbed, or assaulted. Of course also let them know that none of that could ever happen to them anyway, cause everybody is good deep down, just misunderstood.
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  • Wolf.
    --
    I only read a few of the responses to this, but that's all I need to read. So, I can only offer these comments:

    1. California. Love it or leave it.
    2. Never, never, never get into this type of conversation at work.
    3. There is a concerted, government-sponsored effort to Socialize the United States that has a 100 year plan. That "plan" started back in the 1920s and it is running a little behind by a small margin. Guns are one of the last things that must be eliminated for the plan to truly take effect. The only way to stop this is to become active in your community in a positive way. This means you MUST become educated before you start opening your mouth. So do that and then get busy.
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  • The Dutchman
    I hope this is not a new realization for you. The arrogance of the state and big city governments is astounding. Chairman Mao would be pleased his handiwork crossed the Pacific without a shot being fired.


    quote:Originally posted by Nhoppt
    i just got into the second argument of the week about gun rights. Apperently my tree hugging co-workers believe that there should be a law that prohibits ALL guns in the U.S. Although there were only two people that were makeing there points agianst gun rights the whole night shift decided to jump in and go against me as well. I was the only one that was for gun rights.I felt cornered! All of them belived that people like me were the reason that there was violence and death in the world. I tried to get my point accross but no one would let me get a word in. Someone make me feel better about protecting and argueing for my beliefs. I HATE CA!
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  • Alpine
    You will have water rationing if there is another 2" rainfall like last year. I was just down there and it looked like hell. More fire storms like the last one and fire insurance will be more expensive than coastal land.

    I would like to be rid of the three houses I own there. I made my decision to move away 4 years ago, and I would not move back. When away for a while you can see the eroding of American culture and the increase of Mexican culture. Just check out the amount of Mexican radio stations vs. English stations.
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