Damn Coyotes...
They've been coming into town almost every night, killing someone's dog. They are back tonight and I think they are after the next door neighbor's dog (he's chained up...and the one that had his house condemned after the chimney fire). What pisses me off the most is that my dogs would go after them...and end up getting killed by the pack. We have to be very careful when letting the outside to go to the bathroom. If I were not in town, I'd get a night vision scope and go to work.[:(!]
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Poison them 0 -
One of the things to rember when domestic dogs VS. coyotes, is the domestic dog thinks, here comes another fight, while the coyote thinks, here comes lunch. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Fatboy Forever
One of the things to rember when domestic dogs VS. coyotes, is the domestic dog thinks, here comes another fight, while the coyote thinks, here comes lunch.
Yeah...that is why my dogs want to go[:(!]...unfortunately, they don't know that there's a whole pack of Yotes laying wait...Heard a dog get torn apart the night before last.0 -
Get a donkey...people all over my area have trouble with large packs of them...except me. They're scared shatless of donkeys.
Shane0 -
Got the same problem here along the coast and dont let my dog sam out
at night but I have a deck off the bedroom over the garage and she uses that at night.I put that plastic decking down called Trex.
Cleans up realy good!0 -
quote:Originally posted by sweaver
Get a donkey...people all over my area have trouble with large packs of them...except me. They're scared shatless of donkeys.
Shane
+1 That's definately true. I was having BIG trouble with them killing my chickens. I lost nearly two dozen in one week. I got four miniature donkeys and the yotes haven't been back since.
Although, I doubt this will work well in a town.[:D][;)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by SW 357Mag
quote:Originally posted by sweaver
Get a donkey...people all over my area have trouble with large packs of them...except me. They're scared shatless of donkeys.
Shane
+1 That's definately true. I was having BIG trouble with them killing my chickens. I lost nearly two dozen in one week. I got four miniature donkeys and the yotes haven't been back since.
Although, I doubt this will work well in a town.[:D][;)]
Bingo...I'm cursed to live in town for the time being...gotta get this place paid for before buying land to build on.[^]0 -
We have coyotes around here, but the main problem is from cougars. No one gets too upset if a 'yote sets of a motion sensor light and eats a load of 00, but do it to a cat and you'd think you'd shot somebodies mother. 0 -
That is a true shame. People, and their means of getting by are much more important than any dman animal.quote:Originally posted by Ray B
We have coyotes around here, but the main problem is from cougars. No one gets too upset if a 'yote sets of a motion sensor light and eats a load of 00, but do it to a cat and you'd think you'd shot somebodies mother.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Ray B
We have coyotes around here, but the main problem is from cougars. No one gets too upset if a 'yote sets of a motion sensor light and eats a load of 00, but do it to a cat and you'd think you'd shot somebodies mother.
damn cats are just as bad...they'd just as soon see you as dinner, should the opportunity present itself.0 -
Forgot I took these awhile back about 50yrds from the house' 
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quote:Originally posted by SW 357Mag
quote:Originally posted by sweaver
Get a donkey...people all over my area have trouble with large packs of them...except me. They're scared shatless of donkeys.
Shane
+1 That's definately true. I was having BIG trouble with them killing my chickens. I lost nearly two dozen in one week. I got four miniature donkeys and the yotes haven't been back since.
Although, I doubt this will work well in a town.[:D][;)]
D'oh!!!
Then I imagine a suggestion of armed donkeys wont fly in the town either.0 -
quote:Originally posted by SG_Niner
Forgot I took these awhile back about 50yrds from the house'
You shoot it?0 -
That pic looks like a grey fox not a coyote. Coyote will kill dogs cats and anything else that stumbles onto there path. During the winter mounths it is usually for food. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by chrishiher
That pic looks like a grey fox not a coyote. Coyote will kill dogs cats and anything else that stumbles onto there path. During the winter mounths it is usually for food.
I's thinkin' maybe coy-dog.0 -
quote:Originally posted by spryor
quote:Originally posted by chrishiher
That pic looks like a grey fox not a coyote. Coyote will kill dogs cats and anything else that stumbles onto there path. During the winter mounths it is usually for food.
I's thinkin' maybe coy-dog.
I's think the same [:D]0 -
A guy down the road had his 10 yr old lab taken by a pack and at the time I took these photos I only had my cell phone to shoot it with.
I was working on my pumps and I did not want to do a 100 yrd dash round trip back to the house.0 -
quote:Originally posted by SW 357Mag
Poison them
Poison is a terrible idea... Don't do it, especially if you are worried about freindly domestic dogs, you will kill them too if they get loose...
Stupid idea!!!
Shoot 'em dead and bury them carefully where they won't be found...0 -
coy dog? Maybe but that is a rare occurance. By the top pick i would say gery fox but the bottom one makes that hard choice. But it just doesnt have the height of o coyote. 0 -
i've had a few foxes, probably the same one, in the chickens here and the neighbors don't like me to shoot at them out the back window. from there i am about 50ft from where they have been coming into the yard. I going to tape a 1 liter pop bottle to the end of the 12ga with some 00 and givem hell, poor man's silencer 0 -
YEA ON THE RIVER HERE THEY ARE CONTINUING TO GROW 40LBS IS A BIG ONE EVERYONES RIGHT ABOUT THEM KILLING DOMESTIC PETS WE USE ROAD KILL DEER AND HUNT NEAR HOME 40 ROUND CLIPS WORK WELL ONCE THEY HAVE DISCOVERED THIER LAST SUPPER OH YEA AND 5 MILLION CANDLE POWER LIGHT WISH I COULD AFFORD A GEN111 NIGHT VISION SCOPE SWEET! 0 -
You guys are really having problems with the critters. They certainly have not developed packs that big here yet. If I have anything to do with it they wont. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by bang250
quote:Originally posted by spryor
quote:Originally posted by chrishiher
That pic looks like a grey fox not a coyote. Coyote will kill dogs cats and anything else that stumbles onto there path. During the winter mounths it is usually for food.
I's thinkin' maybe coy-dog.
I's think the same [:D]
Coy-Dogs are mostly a myth, feral dogs (a pack of abandoned domestic dogs wouldn't last too long in Coyote country) are very distinct and look more like Dingo's. The myth of Coy-dogs is also an entity that has been spread by different state officials in their respective divisions of Fish & Game making up focus group tested terms such as "Coy-Dogs" and "Brush-Dogs" in order to try and diffuse the public discontent and outrage with the reality that Coyotes have a tendency to over populate and decimate local populous of many, and in some cases all other, wild game species in any given area during years where they overpopulate and run rampant.
Coyote's won't interbreed with dogs unless raised in captivity, and even then it is a rare occurrence... (With Wolves it generally takes several generations of being raised in captivity before they will interbreed with domestic dogs.) They will kill and eat domestic or feral dogs in the wild. Dogs are just another food source for them. They don't like dogs and won't hang with 'em, they'll kill & eat them. I dislike Coyotes for their wanton killing. The Indians used to disdain them too while praising and cherishing Wolves, they even spoke of Coyotes as being wanton, gluttonous killers, that seem to kill just to have something to do.
The black tip (pic is a little blurry) is a give away of a Coyote vs Fox. If it is a black tip on the tail (it looks like it in blurry pic) it is a Coyote. Also the Coyote's can live with Mange and spread it to other animals (Raccoons, Fox, domestic dogs & cats etc) This animal looks a little mangy - Looks like a Coyote to me...0 -
Its so funny how everyone on this board bashes PETA but yet cries like little girls over there kitty cats getting eaten by a coyote. You guys think no one and nothing has the right to kill your animals and thats exactly what PETA thinks. You guys are all little softies. Grow a sack. 0 -
Most of what you said nimrod is true and after further view i now to believe it is a yote. but by no means are coyotes mangey critters. They are however opportunits kill anything of food value that crosses their path yes. In the summer however their diet is mainly grasshoppers and vegitation. In my opinion a yote is smarter than a Wolf because they have never been on the endangered list. Smart critter and it piss most people off that they could out smart them . 0 -
quote:Originally posted by HobbyGuy
That was a hurtful and pointless statement RunForrest. [V]
Time for a TROLL ALERT![:D]
I have more posts than you, TROLL0 -
quote:Originally posted by RunForest
Its so funny how everyone on this board bashes PETA but yet cries like little girls over there kitty cats getting eaten by a coyote. You guys think no one and nothing has the right to kill your animals and thats exactly what PETA thinks. You guys are all little softies. Grow a sack.
Ignorance shouts while wisdom whispers...
Coyote's are a huge threat to the health and well being of any domesticated animals including livestock and herd animals. There is also a huge difference between animals bread and raised as non-predatory pets that have been purposely taken out of the food chain as to not be allowed to run wild amongst domesticated livestock. The Coyote has self evolved from being natures clean-up crew into a threat to all living things. Coyote's that have become emboldened by man not retaliating and showing them their proper place in the pecking order of the food chain has thusly allowed them to starting using man and the communities of man as their personal hunting grounds for easy non-traditional, non-natural food sources. This involvement is a huge threat to the well being of pets, livestock, and even human populations. And it does lead directly to Coyote attacks on man (small children playing alone in back yards even within a few yards or feet of adults, as they become prey of opportunity to the human habitat predators they have become... An unnatural situation that can very easily snowball into large scale issues.
There is evidence of national efforts to protect and reintroduce predators into areas where they have naturally died off and/or were exterminated by man for causing large scale health issues with populations of livestock and other species of game animals. The result has often been an abnormal reversal of natural selection which has dis-evolved them from natural scavengers to predator scavenger threats to every species of animal they come into contact with, just as non native species being introduced into places such as pacific rim islands and Australia have wreaked havoc with the native species and the naturally selected food chain.
Ignorance also tends to mock, while wisdom tries to educate.0 -
quote:Originally posted by chrishiher
Most of what you said nimrod is true and after further view i now to believe it is a yote. but by no means are coyotes mangey critters. They are however opportunits kill anything of food value that crosses their path yes. In the summer however their diet is mainly grasshoppers and vegitation. In my opinion a yote is smarter than a Wolf because they have never been on the endangered list. Smart critter and it piss most people off that they could out smart them .
I'm with ya...
My point on mange is the fact that they are capable of continuity of populous while suffering from mange, and passing that disease onto many other species that cannot continue to exist while suffering the effects of that disease. I have seen many a Coyote with what appears to be a rat like tail having lost all of it's tail's fur and large patches of festering hide, while seeming to be in perfectly normal health and activity.
And yes they are incredibly smart and seem to be able to adapt at alarming rates of intellect and coordination as I have first hand accounts of them running deer in relay in New York state along planned chase routes with pack hunters waiting in very equally proportioned legs of a pursuit route until they eventually tire out their quarry. They do routinely outsmart people, especially those of us that hunt them.0 -
Nimrod's close to correct on the Native American lore. The Plains Indians spoke of coyotes as "The First People" with attributes (both positive and negative) of humans. They certainly didn't revere coyotes, but they appreciated them for their sly sense of humor and ability to survive. They were "tricksters", according to the elders I've had the pleasure of knowing.
Around here, they're targets of opportunity.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Colonel Plink
Nimrod's close to correct on the Native American lore. The Plains Indians spoke of coyotes as "The First People" with attributes (both positive and negative) of humans. They certainly didn't revere coyotes, but they appreciated them for their sly sense of humor and ability to survive. They were "tricksters", according to the elders I've had the pleasure of knowing.
Yes, I was generalizing a bit, (and I think I did a poor job of detailing my information) I was referring mostly to some interviews and some of the documentaries I have seen with some elders in dating between 1960 & 1980, there were a number of comments I noted where they spoke a bit more highly of Wolves, and a few of them had made some comments along the paraphrased lines of how the Coyote seems to kill just for the fun of killing, while the Wolf kills when he needs food... I suppose it may not be specifically historically accurate, however, it seemed to represent an overall opinion, that may have differed from actual lore teachings as handed down in their tribes... If I recall there was also a kind of pecking order with the spirit value of the spirit meaning of a Wolf vs a Coyote, particularly in visions etc. They also seemed to respect or revere the Wolf on a higher level of class than the Coyote... This may also be partially an impression I got from the color and character of the conversation as Indian lore was very verbally focused.0
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