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  • D1
    Dang, girl! That's a nice giveaway.
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  • Locust Fork
    I hope this gets some real participation!
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  • D1
    1232: The Chinese who invented gunpowder (black powder) first used it in a weapon - gunpowder filled tubes aka rockets.
    1364: First recorded use of a firearm - shooter lit wicks by hand that ingnited gunpowder that was loaded into the gun barrel.
    1400s: Matchlock guns - first mechanically firing of guns. Wicks were now attached to a clamp that sprang into gunpowder that was placed in a "flash pan".
    1509: Wheel lock guns - wicks were replaced the wheel lock that generated a spark for igniting the gunpowder.
    1630: Flintlock guns - the flintlock did two things mechanically, it opened the lid of the flash pan and provided an igniting spark.
    1825: Percussion-cap guns invented by Reverend John Forsyth - firing mechanism no longer uses flash pan, a tube lead straight into the gun barrel, the tupe had an exposive cap on it that exploded when struck
    1830: Back action lock
    1835: Colt revolver - first mass-produced, multi-shot, revolving firearms
    1840: Pin-fire cartridges
    1850: Shotguns
    1859: Full rim-fire cartridge
    1860: Spencer repeating carbine patented
    1861: Breech loaded guns
    1862: Gatling Gun
    1869: Center-fire cartridge
    1871: Cartridge revolver
    1873: Winchester rifle
    1877: Double-action revolver
    1879: Lee box magazine patented
    1892: Automatic handguns invented by Joseph Laumann
    1893: Borchardt pistol - automatic handgun with a separate magazine in the grip
    1903: First automatic rifle a Winchester.


    Just so everyone knows, this is not my research or my writings. I copied it from About.com

    I think this pretty much sums it up.

    Other than cosmetics and accessories, the modern firearm has remained basically unchanged since 1903. An ammo timeline and different types would even be more interesting.


    But, that last part is just my opinion and we all know about opinions
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  • dcloco
    Let me go first....

    First in the small arms category:

    There was a big dude with an attitude and a small guy with a rock and a slingshot. As Paul Harvey might say, "...the rest is history".
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  • dcinffxva
    A Chinaman was sitting alone in a room,
    And discovered a bunch of powders go boom

    This worked well with a tube and piece of burning rope
    Then Leonardo came around, and he was no dope.

    The inventor of the flintlock thought he was the man
    It turns out that was a flash in the pan.

    Along came a guy who said "Oh Snap",
    I think I'll make a percussion cap.

    Giving no thought about a future rhymer,
    The next evolution was called a primer.

    It is so much easier when hunting partridge,
    To now drop in a pre-made cartridge.
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  • sarge_3ad
    quote:Originally posted by drjew
    1232: The Chinese who invented gunpowder (black powder) first used it in a weapon - gunpowder filled tubes aka rockets.
    1364: First recorded use of a firearm - shooter lit wicks by hand that ingnited gunpowder that was loaded into the gun barrel.
    1400s: Matchlock guns - first mechanically firing of guns. Wicks were now attached to a clamp that sprang into gunpowder that was placed in a "flash pan".
    1509: Wheel lock guns - wicks were replaced the wheel lock that generated a spark for igniting the gunpowder.
    1630: Flintlock guns - the flintlock did two things mechanically, it opened the lid of the flash pan and provided an igniting spark.
    1825: Percussion-cap guns invented by Reverend John Forsyth - firing mechanism no longer uses flash pan, a tube lead straight into the gun barrel, the tupe had an exposive cap on it that exploded when struck
    1830: Back action lock
    1835: Colt revolver - first mass-produced, multi-shot, revolving firearms
    1840: Pin-fire cartridges
    1850: Shotguns
    1859: Full rim-fire cartridge
    1860: Spencer repeating carbine patented
    1861: Breech loaded guns
    1862: Gatling Gun
    1869: Center-fire cartridge
    1871: Cartridge revolver
    1873: Winchester rifle
    1877: Double-action revolver
    1879: Lee box magazine patented
    1892: Automatic handguns invented by Joseph Laumann
    1893: Borchardt pistol - automatic handgun with a separate magazine in the grip
    1903: First automatic rifle a Winchester.


    Just so everyone knows, this is not my research or my writings. I copied it from About.com

    I think this pretty much sums it up.

    Other than cosmetics and accessories, the modern firearm has remained basically unchanged since 1903. An ammo timeline and different types would even be more interesting.


    But, that last part is just my opinion and we all know about opinions





    What he said! [:D] Please, did I win? [:D][:p]
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  • gbeggrow
    Well my little DVD I got from the NRA pretty much covers this giveaway. [:D] Wish I could share it here but I'm sure that would not sit well with the NRA, History Channel, and A&E.[:0]

    I personally think the two most influential firearms created were the M1 Garand and the 1911 .45 automatic pistol.[^]

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  • select-fire
    I will defer the giveaway. Someone is going to be pleased with the tack driver. I have a Govt. Target. bull barrel.


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  • scottm21166
    Its funny that gunpowder was invented in china and never used as a weapon ..the chinese used it for foreworks. Marco polo witnessed a fireworks show and brought the formula back to italy.
    Cannons were the first firearms and were initially offensive weapons. the earliest notation of firearms came in 1284 in the siege of fiora italy. within a generation cannons were being made all over europe especialy in england,germany belgium spain and italy...almost imediatly tecno;ogy improved and inventors began tinkering with hand carried cannons which were later downsized to shoulder fired weapons blunderbuss (german) developing a proper fireing mechanism was key. but by 1380 matchlocks were available in limited numbers to wealthy buyers. these were a modified firing mechanism similar to the release of a crossbow. the first internal FM was the wheel lock and then the flintlock then the caplock...finally the fuse was attached to a cartridge and evolved to a rim fire then centerfire round
    another obstacle was moving from single shot to multiple round capability. multiple barrels led the way followed by revolvers and around the end of the 19th century automatic weapons were introduced.
    pricipal innovators in firearms development and manufacture were sam colt noted for revolver development and john browning who invented everything else.
    almost every gun made is a direct result of original designs by these two inventors
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  • shoff14
    1232: The Chinese who invented gunpowder (black powder) first used it in a weapon - gunpowder filled tubes aka rockets.
    1364: First recorded use of a firearm - shooter lit wicks by hand that ignited gunpowder that was loaded into the gun barrel.
    1400s: Matchlock guns
    1509: Wheel lock guns.
    1630: Flintlock guns.
    1825: Percussion-cap guns
    1830: Back action lock
    1835: Colt revolver - first mass-produced, multi-shot, revolving firearms
    1840: Pin-fire cartridges
    1847 Colt manufacturing company is founded
    1850: Shotguns
    1854 S & W patent metal cartridges
    1854 Volcanic repeating arms company is formed, later to become Winchester
    1855 John Moses Browning is born
    1859: Full rim-fire cartridge
    1860: Spencer repeating carbine patented
    1861: Breech loaded guns
    1862: Gatling Gun
    1869: Center-fire cartridge
    1871: Cartridge revolver
    1873: Winchester rifle
    1873 Colt Single action army, known as the Peacemaker
    1877: Double-action revolver
    1892: Automatic handguns invented by Joseph Laumann
    1893: Borchardt pistol - automatic handgun with a separate magazine in the grip
    1898 Mauser introduces Gewehr 98
    1900 Model 1900 is produced by FN and Colt
    1903 First automatic rifle a Winchester.
    1911 Colt Model 1911 is adopted by the government
    1917 BAR designed
    1921 First Thompson machine gun is made, "Model of 1921"
    1947 AK 47 is produced
    1956 AR-15 is designed, later to become the M16
    1962 Remington model 700 is introduced
    2006 Original Winchester factory closes down


    Here is the start of my timeline, I will probably add more when I research some more.
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  • goldeneagle76
    1680 Snaphaunce revolvers attributed to John Dafte of London.
    1818 Elisha Collier patented a flintlock revolver in Britain
    1835 Samuel Colt received a British patent for his revolver an American patent (number 138) on February 25, 1836 for a Revolving gun
    1869 44 S&W made
    1873 45-70 Gov, 45 Colt and 44-40 made
    1883 Hiram Maxim introduced his recoil-powered machine gun
    1885 1st semi-auto rifle invented by German, Ferdinand Ritter Von Mannlicher
    1891 7.62x54 made
    1893 Borchardt-designed self-loading C-93 semi-automatic pistol
    1895 30-30 made
    1896 Paul Mauser introduced his first model of the famous Mauser broom-handle semi-automatic pistol, the C96.
    1902 38 sp made
    1902 Mr. Browning invented the 1st semi-auto shotgun
    1902 Luger's 9mm Pistole Parabellum design was adopted by the German military and served as their standard sidearm during World War I
    1903-05 Winchester has 1st semi-auto rimfire & centerfire rifles specifically for civilian market
    1905 45ACP made
    1906, Remington Arms introduced the "Remington Autoloading Repeating Rifle," also designed by Browning
    1906 30-06 made
    1911 M-1911 adopted by military;locked-breech action now commonly used by nearly all heavy-caliber semi-automatic pistols, and designed the .45 ACP Colt M1911 single-action semi-automatic pistol,
    1922 Browning also co-designed the FN Browning Hi-Power
    1921-1926 Though the Garand is usually considered by some to be the first issued as a standard infantry weapon, the M1917 predates it and was used in the latter stages of WW1.
    1937 gas-operated M1 Garand, developed by Canadian-born John Garand for Springfield Armory, which was owned by the US government.
    1943 7.62x39 made
    1947 AK47 was produced by Mikhail Timofeevich Kalashnikov
    1951 50BMG made
    1955 308 Win made
    1958 Armalite delivers first new rifles, called the AR-15, to the Army for testing
    1964 41Mag and 444 Marlin made
    1967 US Army adopted the XM16E1 rifle as a standard "US Rifle, 5.56mm, M16A1", on 28 February 1967
    1971 Smith & Wesson was the first company to offer a safe double-action, high-capacity pistol with its Model 59
    1976 Beretta introduced its Beretta 92
    1980 7mm-08 made
    1981 Colt developed a variation of the M16A1, adapted for the SS109/5.56mm NATO cartridge. Adopted by armed forces later.
    1982 Glock introduced the ultra-modern Glock 17 (polymer)
    1983 SIG-Sauer introduced its model SIG P226.
    1994 Adoption of the latest variations of the M16 breed. Those include: M16A3and M16A4 rifles
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  • Locust Fork
    For now we have a list of years....but the years don't tell why the progression from one major group to another. See what I mean? These are things I have been going over and over in my head.....while driving to the store....in the shower....letting the dogs "out"....just every once in a while its something I think over.

    We need to have the STORY not just a chronological list....and why something happens is a good thing to include. Such as....during a major war a certain rifle was produced to make use of the enemy's cartridge. Who knows what all I have missed in the years I have been dealing with things!
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  • rogue_rob
    quote:Originally posted by Locust Fork
    For now we have a list of years....but the years don't tell why the progression from one major group to another. See what I mean? These are things I have been going over and over in my head.....while driving to the store....in the shower....letting the dogs "out"....just every once in a while its something I think over.

    We need to have the STORY not just a chronological list....and why something happens is a good thing to include. Such as....during a major war a certain rifle was produced to make use of the enemy's cartridge. Who knows what all I have missed in the years I have been dealing with things!


    Locust, this is probably the most worthwhile post you have ever started. I'm impressed. (Even without the giveaway, it would be a great post)
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  • Locust Fork
    Thank you....I hope in the end we all have something we can learn something from.
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  • spryor
    Nice giveaway, always wanted one of those.[:)]
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  • goldeneagle76
    I was trying ot make it short, will get to work on the reasoning behind different cartridges. Those of us that put lists out here now gave the others a starting place to add too. Can we get some extra credit for that[:D]
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  • Permanently deleted user
    The origin of guns and gunpowder will probably never be known with certainty. Gunpowder (black powder), now a 75:15:10 mixture of saltpeter (potassium nitrate, KNO3), charcoal, and sulfur, may have been developed in China, or possibly Arabia, Germany, or somewhere else entirely. It appears to have been widely known, with various recipes, before guns were invented. Guns were apparently unknown in Europe in the mid-13th century, but had appeared across Europe early in the 14th century (by 1326 at the latest) and almost every conceivable variation was tried during the next century, although the state of metallurgy and machining was generally inadequate. Terminology was developed, stolen, borrowed, and altered freely. Few people were literate, and standard spelling came centuries later. In any case, literate people (mostly priests) did not associate with gunners, who were thought to be in league with the Devil (a belief that seems still to prevail in some quarters).

    All guns were originally cannon, fired from some sort of dug-in emplacement, and as a technical term, 'gun' still means a large artillery piece fired from a mount or emplacement. "Handguns" which could be carried (with both hands) and held for firing came somewhat later, as did wheels.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    quote:Originally posted by Locust Fork
    Everyone here seems to know so much and now its time to see just who can put it down....in simple and "to the point" details. Lets see if we can get a time-line, manufactured firearms that changed events to get where we are today. This will take some research to do this right. I don't mean I need to know every detail....just the highlights. Without skipping major parts. It should be easy to read....without using an insane amount of wording. Get to the point...I'm a product of today's television watching and have a very short attention span.

    Winner gets this VERY nice Like new....I don't think it has ever been fired....Ruger MK II .22lr bull barrel 6 7/8" with box and all papers included! I will ship this to an FFL for the winner.

    How about on the 1st we say who wins.....get going!

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    Nice giveaway LF! WTG![8D]
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  • Permanently deleted user
    First hand gun was called "Hand gone" a small hand operated canon.
    Air Guns were invented in the 1640s
    Man needed faster and faster ways to kill one another so the advent of the machine gun , then came airplanes with guns mounted on them and now that man could fly he devised bombs to drop on man , It has been getting worse ever since the inception of gun powder..They never should have invented the rock as that is where it all started.
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  • mrseatle
    In 1755, the British burned Acadian homes at the outbreak of the French and Indian War between Britain and France, accusing Acadians of disloyalty (for not having taken the oath) and guerrilla action. Those who still refused to swear loyalty to the British crown then suffered what is referred to as the Great Upheaval, when some 6,000-7,000 Acadians were expelled from Nova Scotia to France or the American colonies. Others fled deeper into Nova Scotia and other parts of the colony of Canada.

    After 1764, many expelled Acadians settled in Louisiana, which had been transferred by France to Spain before the end of the Seven Years' War. The name Acadian was corrupted to Cajun. Britain allowed some Acadians to return to Nova Scotia, but these were forced to settle in small groups, and were not permitted to reside in the former communities of Grand-Pre and Port Royal.

    The poem Evangeline by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow is a romanticized account of the Deportation and its aftermath, telling the story of Evangeline, a (fictional) Acadian woman who never gives up the search for her lover.
    Origin of the name
    The origin of the name Acadia is credited to the explorer Giovanni da Verrazzano (1480-1527), who had the Greek term "Arcadie", meaning land of plenty, written on the entire Atlantic coast north of Virginia on his sixteenth century map. Another theory is that Acadia is derived from the Mi'kmaq term for "place", pronounced "akatie" (still found in place names like Tracadie) and the Malecite term "quoddy", also meaning a "fertile place".


    1700 Acadian Census

    Marie de ST. ESTIENNE widow of Sr. Alexandre LEBORGNE; Alexandre 20, Charles 15, Jeanne 18, Marie-Francoise 14, Anne 10; 14 cattle, 12 sheep, 27 arpents, 2 guns.

    Marie SAVOIE widow of Jacques TRIEL; Pierre 23. Nicolas 17, Allexis 16, Madeleine 19, Marie 10; 4 cattle.

    Jean BELLINEAUX 48; Jeanne BOURG (wife) 48; Jean 27, Antoine 20; Anne their niece; 18 cattle. 22 sheep, 26 arpents, 3 guns.

    Francois ROBIN 57; Marie PESSELET (wife) 55; Pierre 20; Francois 18, Marguerite 17; Jeanne 14; 2 cattle, 3 sheep, 3 arpents, 1 gun.

    Pierre LANOUE 52; Jeanne GOUTROT (wife) 35; Pierre 17; 15 cattle, 6 sheep, 12 arpents, 3 guns.

    Jean BRIGEAU 49; Andree (wife) 33; Pierre 10; Jean-Baptiste 8; Marie 16; Anne 14; 7 cattle 6 sheep, 14 arpents, 1 gun.

    Jean PASTATCH 42; Agathe VINCENT (wife) 36; Francois 4, Marie-Anne 15, Francoise-Marie 13; 7 cattle, 6 sheep, 5 arpents, 1 gun.

    Charles BELLINEAUX 22; Madelaine MELANSON (wife) 22, Charles 3; Jean 1; 3 cattle, 2 sheep, 1 gun.

    Claude ROBIN 29; Marie MELANSON (wife) 19; Marie 1; 3 cattle, 5 sheep, 2 arpents, 1 gun.

    Bernard GODET 26; Jeanne TERRIAU (wife) 25; Pierre 2, 5 cattle, 3 sheep. 8 arpents.

    Jacques DOUCET 29; Marie PELLERIN (wife) 20; Marie 3; Madeleine 2; 8 cattle, 5 sheep, 5 arpents, 1 gun.

    Claude DOUCET 26; Marie COMMEAU (wife) 20; Charles 2; Marie 1; 5 cattle, 4 sheep, 6 arpents, 1 gun.

    Marie LANDRY, widow of Germain DOUCET, 51; Pierre 15; Jean 2; Marie 4; 8 cattle 12 sheep, 20 arpents.

    Jacques LERAMA (LeVanier) 47; Jeanne PISTRET (wife, widow of Barnabe MARTIN) 59; (children of MARTIN) Rene 29, Estienne 20, Jeanne 24, Cecille 18, Elisabet 11; 10 cattle, 12 sheep, 16 arpents, 1 gun.

    Laurens DOUCET 31; Jeanne BABIN (wife) 32; Michel 16; Alexandre 14; Pierre 10; Jeanne 8; Marie 2; 8 cattle, 7 sheep, 15 arpents, 1 gun.

    Jean LABAT 67; Jeanne GOUTROT (wife) 47; 10 cattle, 12 sheep, 18 arpents, 1 gun.

    Jean BROSSARD 46; Catherine RICHARD (wife) 36; Pierre 16, Francois 6; Claude 5, Allexandre liqlarie 18; Marie-Anne 14; Catherine 10; Isabelle 4; Francoise 3; cattle, 26 sheep. 15 arpents, 1 gun.

    Estienne PELLERIN 53; Jeanne SAVOIE (wife) 42; Pierre 18; Jean-Baptiste 15; Charles 10, BERNARD 9; Alexandre 5; Anne 16; Jeanne 12; Marguerite 1; 12 cattle, 24 sheep; 16 arpents, 1 gun.

    Francois LEVRON 49; Catherine SAVOIE (wife) 41; Jacques 21; Joseph 9; Jean-Baptiste 8; Madelaine 18; Anne 16; Marie 14; Elisabet 10; 12 cattle, 18 sheep, 15 arpents, 1 gun.

    Abraham LANDRY 38; Marie Brien (BRUN)(wife) 42; Jean Baptiste 16; Claude 12; Pierre 11; Marguerite 14; Marie 9; 10 cattle, 16 sheep, 26 arpents, 1 gun.

    Pierre DOUCET, widower, 63; Rene 20; Mathieu 15; 8 cattle, 10 sheep, 8 arpents, 1 gun.

    Louise DOUCET, widow of Pierre Chienet DUBREUIL royal prosecutor 26; Pierre 8; Francois 7; Marie 2, 11 cattle, 7 sheep, 3 arpents.

    Jeanne AUCOIN, widow (of Francois GIROUARD) 87; Julien Lord her son-in-law 48; Charlotte GIROUARD 40; Allexandre 24; Jacques 21; Pierre 18; Louis 5; Marie 13; Madelaine 8; Marguerite 2; 15 cattle, 34 sheep, 20 arpents, 2 guns.

    Jacob GIROUARD 53; Marguerite GOUTROT (wife) Alexandre 29; Pierre 27; Jean 24; Francoise 20; Claude 16; Guillaume 14; Denis 12; Charles 11; Germain 9; Marie 22; Marguerite 17; Madelaine 5; Marie 2; 35 cattle, 32 sheep, 26 arpents, 2 guns.

    Michel DUPEUX 63; Marie GOUTROT (wife) 61; Jean 25; Marie 18; 12 cattle, 20 sheep, 10 arpents, 1 gun.

    Sebastien BRUN (widower) 45; Claude 21; Abraham 19; Vincent 18; Jean-Batiste 16; Anthoine 15; Marie 13; 10 cattle, 22 sheep, 10 arpents, 1 gun.

    Bernard BOURG 48; Francoise BRUN (wife) 47; Rene 24; Ahraham 13; Jeanne 22; Anne 20; Francoise 17; Marie 10; Clair 8; 24 cattle, 18 sheep, 30 arpents, 1 gun.

    Marie BOURG, widow (of Vincent BROT) 55; Pierre 27; Francois 25; Jean 22; Rene 15; Anne 27; Jeanne 16; Elisabeth 15; 15 cattle, 18 sheep, 12 arpents, 1 gun.

    Claude TERRIOT 62; Marie GOUTROT (wife) 55; Claude 22; Pierre 16; Joseph 13; Marie 19; Madelaine 17; Elisabeth 14; Marie 9; Marguerite 7; 10 cattle, 13 sheep, 15 arpents 1 gun.

    Martin BENOIT 50; Marie CHOSSEGROS (wife) 46; Clement 22; Jean 18; Pierre 16; Claude 14; Marie 20; Catherine 11; Anne 8; 15 cattle, 20 sheep, 10 arpents, 1 gun.

    Pierre COMMEAU 42; Jeanne BOURGEOIS (wife) 32; Pierre 10; Anne 9; Francoise 8; Marguerite 2; 4 cattle, 3 sheep, 2 arpents. 1 gun.

    Charles CALVE 35; Madelaine PELLERIN (wife) 23; 1 child; 4 cattle, 7 sheep, 6 arpents, 1 gun.

    Pierre LANDRY 45; Madelaine ROBICHAUX (wife) 36; Pierre 16; Jean-Batiste 10; Francois 5; Joseph 2; Rene 1; Marguerite 13; 18 cattle, 14 sheep, 22 arpents, 2 guns.

    Claude LANDRY 40; Marguerite TERRIOT (wife) 33; Claude 10; Jean 5; Madelaine 15; Marie 13; Marguerite 8; Marie-Marguerite 6; Anne 3; 12 cattle, 14 sheep 32 arpents, 1 gun.

    Charles DOUCET 35; Huguette GUERIN (wife) 33; Claude 14; Charles 12; Jean 10; Francois 8; Germain 3; Joseph 1; Madelaine 5; 8 cattle, 6 sheep, 14 arpents, 1 gun.

    Jean BABINEAU 42; Marguerite BOUDROT (wife) 51; Pierre 17; Marie 8; Marguerite 5; 18 cattle, 16 sheep. 25 arpents, 1 gun.

    Bonaventure TERRIOT 56; Jeanne BOUDROT (wife) 55; 15 cattle, 12 sheep, 14 arpents, 1 gun.

    Francois AUCOIN 35; Madelaine BELINEAUX (wife) 23; Jean 6; Joseph 4; Madelaine 2; 18 cattle, 14 sheep, 25 arpents, 1 gun.

    Marguerite DOUCET, widow of Abraham DUGAST; Claude DUGAST 51; Marguerite BOURG (wife age not reported); Claude 23; Francois 12; Joseph 2; Marguerite 18; Anne 17; Jeanne 16; Agnes 14; Madelaine 11; Cecille 8; Marguerite 3; 40 cattle, 25 sheep, 28 arpents, 3 guns.

    Charles MELANSON 53; Marie DUGAST (wife) 49; Pierre and Ambroise, twins, 15; Claude 12; Jeanne 10; 30 cattle, 22 sheep, 35 arpents, 2 guns.

    Marguerite MARTIN, widow of Jean BOURG, 48; Jean-Batiste 16; Madeleine 20; Catherine 19; Jeanne 16; 8 cattle. 6 sheep, 12 arpents, 1 gun.

    Jean NAQUIN 32; Marguerite (wife) 30; Louis 1; 3 cattle, 5 sheep, 2 arpents, 1 gun

    Martin BLANCHARD 55; Marguerite GUILLEBAUD (wife) 31; Rene 23, Pierre 8; Marie 25; Marguerite 11; 24 cattle, 10 sheep, 10 arpents. 1 gun.

    Marie BOURG, widow, 28; no children, 2 cows, 8 sheep.

    Mathieu MARTIN, widower, 58; 4 cattle, 10 sheep, 12 arpents, 2 guns.

    Pierre GUILLEBAUT 61; Catherine TERRIOT (wife) 46; Charles 22; Marie 17; Jeanne 15; 16 cattle, 20 sheep, 13 arpents, 2 guns.

    Jean CORPORON 51; Francoise SAVOIE (wife) 48; Jaques 25; Jean 22; Martin 13; Francois 12; Jean 8; Elisabet 18; Cecille 16; Marguerite 15; Marie 7; 5 cattle, 6 sheep, 6 arpents, 1 gun.

    Laurens GRANGER 57; Marie LANDRY (wife) 50; Claude 21; Laurens 12; Anne 16; 12 cattle, 21 sheep, 12 arpents, 1 gun.

    Rene GRANGER 28; Marguerite TERRIOT (wife) 21; Marie 4; Marguerite 2; 4 cattle, 6 sheep, 3 arpents, 1 gun.

    Jean COMMEAU 47; Francoise HEBERT (wife) 40; Pierre and Etienne (twins) 20; Jean 16; Augustin 12; Claude 10; Francois 9; Marie 14; Madelaine 2; Francoise 1; 20 cattle, 28 sheep, 30 arpents, 1 gun.

    Martin BOURG 41; Marie POTET (wife) 41; Abraham 20; Pierre 18; Amhroise 14; Francois 12; Jeanne 16; Anne-Marie 9; 13 cattle, 21 sheep, 30 arpents, 2 guns.

    Pierre LEJEUNE 44; Marie THIBAUDEAU (wife) 37; Pierre 10; Germain 2; Jean Ig Marie 13; Jeanne 9; Marguerite 6; Anne 4: 8 cattle, 6 sheep, arpents, 2 guns.

    Germain SAVOIE 44; Marie BREAU (wife) 37; Germain 18; Francois 16: Jean 8; Pierre 2; Charles is Marie 14; Madeleine 7; Marie 6: Jeanne 4; 10 cattle, 15 sheep, arpents, 1 gun.

    Pierre DUPEUX 39; Madelaine LANDRY (wife) 45; Michel 19; Anthoine 16; Pierre 14; Rene 12; Anne 18; 22 cattle, 28 sheep, 26 arpents, 2 guns.

    Pierre BRASSAUX 37; Gabrielle Michelle (wife) 27; Marie 8; 10 cattle, 13 sheep, 12 arpents, 2 guns.

    Abraham BOUDROT 43; Cecille MELANSON (wife) 30; Jean-Baptiste 13; Michel 11; Francois 8; Marie 5; Cecille 3; Anne 1; 10 cattle, 17 sheep, 10 arpents, 1 gun.

    Alexandre RICHARD32; Elisabeth PETITPAS (wife) 35; Jean-Baptiste 13; Pierre 3; Jean 1; Marie-Josephe 9; Marie 8; Marguerite 7; Jeanne 5; Angelique 2; 12 cattle, 14 sheep, 20 arpents, 2 guns.

    Charles ROBICHAUX 34; Marie THIBAUDEAU (wife) 35; Charles and Rene (twins) 10; Anthoine 8; Augustin 7; Jean 6; Allexandre 5; Joseph 3; Francois 2; Angelique 13; 12 cattle, 14 sheep, 16 arpents, 1 gun.

    Prudent ROBICHAUX 31; Henriette PETITPAS (wife) 25; Joseph 8; Prudent 4; Pierre 2; Marie 8; 10 cattle. 12 sheep, 8 arpents, 1 gun.

    Jaques BOUCHER 37; Marie PELTRET (wife) 35; Joseph 2; Paul 1; Marie 9; 4 cattle, 7 sheep, 5 arpents, 1 gun.

    Rene MARTIN 29; Marie MINIER (wife) 32; Joseph 8; Pierre 3; 4 cattle, 5 sheep, 5 arpents, 1 gun.

    Louis MEZEVOLET 39; Genevieve FOREST (wife) 37; Louis 10; 3 cattle, 4 sheep, 2 arpents.

    Pierre BAPTISTE 37; Judith (wife) 40; Pierre 2; Jean 1; Judith-Marie 13; 4 cattle 8 sheep, 6 arpents, 3 guns.

    Pierre LEBLANC 35; Madelaine BOURG (wife) 26; Pierre 14, Joseph 2; Madelaine 4; 30 cattle, 28 sheep, 18 arpents, 3 guns.

    Guillaume BLANCHARD 49; Agathe GOUJON (wife) 45; Rene 23; Anthoine 21; Jean 13; Guillaume 10; Jeanne 18; Anne 16; Elisabeth 11; Madelaine 8; 26 cattle, 39 sheep, 30 arpents, 3 guns.

    Pierre GODET 46; Marie BLANCHARD (wife) 44; Pierre 23; Anthoine 20; Germain 18; Guillaume 16; Denis 14; Jean 10; BERNARD 5; Marie 12; Marie-Anne 3; Jeanne 2; 23 cattle, 27 sheep, 25 arpents, 3 guns.

    Emanuel HEBERT 47; Andree BRUN (wife) 53; Guillaume 19; Jean 16; Jaques 15; Allexandre 14; Martin 13; Catherine 5; 36 cattle, 33 sheep, 30 arpents, 1 gun.

    Jean FREDELLE 57; Marie GODET 49; Louis 27; Ollivier 26; Jean 19; Anne 21; 30 cattle, 18 sheep, 20 arpents, 3 guns.

    Pierre DEBEZIER, widower, 79; Suzanne 14; 6 cattle, 10 sheep, 4 arpents.

    Jacques LEGER 37; Madelaine BEZIER (sie TRAHAN) (wife) 22; Jacques 5; Marie 2; 4 cattle, 7 sheep, 3 arpents, 1 gun.

    Etienne COMMEAU (widower) 50; Alexandre 26; Pierre 17; Marie 22; 10 cattle, 16 sheep, 14 arpents, 1 gun.

    Pierre THIBAUDEAU 66; Jeanne TERRIOT (wife) 57; Anthoine 26; Pierre 22; Michel 20; Claude 15; Charles 11; Marie 17; Catherine 14; 30 cattle, 28 sheep, 30 arpents, 3 guns.

    Marie BERNARD, widow of Abraham LANDRY, 55; Germain 26; Abraham 24; Pierre 20; Jeanne 23; Catherine 18; Elisabeth 10; 23 cattle, 38 sheep, 30 arpents, 2 guns.

    Pierre MARTIN 64; Jeanne ROUSELUE 63; Pierre, their son, 39; Anne GAUDIN, his wife, 28; Etienne 9; Pierre 8; Francois 7; Joseph 3; Cecille 13; Renee 12; Madelaine 11; Marie 5; Anne 1; 14 cattle, 20 sheep, 15 arpents, 1 gun

    Jaques MICHEL 42; Catherine COMMEAU (wife) 28 Francois 10; Jean-Michel 8; Charles 4; Joseph 2; Judith 1; 7 cattle, 10 sheep, 7 arpents, 1 gun.

    Pierre COMMEAU 49; Jeanne BOURG (wife) 43; Abraham 19; Joseph 14; Pierre 12; Marguerite 18; Anne 16; Jeanne 15; Angelique 9; Francoise, Catherine and Elisabeth (triplets) 8; 18 cattle, 14 sheep, 22 arpents, 1 gun.

    Julien DUBOIS 42; Marie DESCHAINS (wife) 37; Joseph 12; Marie 10; 5 cattle, 4 sheep, 5 arpents, 1 gun.

    Bernard DOUCET 35; Madeleine CORPORON 29 (wife); Jean 8; Marie 5; Agnes 3; Cecille 2; 5 cattle, 17 sheep, 12 arpents. 1 gun.

    Anthoine HEBERT 35; Jeanne CORPORON (wife) 27; Anthoine 8; Marie 4; Agnes 2; Madelaine 1; 12 cattle, 19 sheep, 15 arpents, 2 guns.

    Louis DAMOURS 48; Marguerite DION (wife) 36; Louis 3; Marie-Josephe 7; Charlotte 5; 14 cattle, 18 arpents. 3 guns[/b].


    In 1755 the Acadians in the Minas area had their boats and their guns confiscated.


    Ethnic cleansing

    Throughout history, however, Acadians have been perceived as a group of desperately honest and hopelessly ignorant and poor people. Additionally, the subsistence living they practiced was often viewed as laziness. But, as historian Carl Brasseaux points out in his book Acadian to Cajun: the transformation of a people, Acadians seemed to have aspired only to a good life:

    In predispersal Acadia and in the early years of settlement in Louisiana, the Acadians were not materialistic in the modern sense. They aspired only to a comfortable existence, and though they consistently produced small agricultural surpluses for sale to acquire commodities they could not themselves produce, they did not labor to produce cash surpluses for the sake of possessing specific material goods, particularly the trapping of high social status. Thus, though significant economic differences existed among individuals, the poorest predispersal Acadian considered himself no less worthy than his wealthiest neighbor.

    All this being said, the British did not appreciate the Acadians' neutrality on their territory. They demanded allegiance and they pressured Acadians into taking an "oath of allegiance" to the crown of England. Acadians refused, mostly because they wanted to maintain their Catholic religion and their French language, something the Royal Pain at the time would not grant.
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  • kimi
    quote:Originally posted by drjew
    1232: The Chinese who invented gunpowder (black powder) first used it in a weapon - gunpowder filled tubes aka rockets.
    1364: First recorded use of a firearm - shooter lit wicks by hand that ingnited gunpowder that was loaded into the gun barrel.
    1400s: Matchlock guns - first mechanically firing of guns. Wicks were now attached to a clamp that sprang into gunpowder that was placed in a "flash pan".
    1509: Wheel lock guns - wicks were replaced the wheel lock that generated a spark for igniting the gunpowder.
    1630: Flintlock guns - the flintlock did two things mechanically, it opened the lid of the flash pan and provided an igniting spark.
    1825: Percussion-cap guns invented by Reverend John Forsyth - firing mechanism no longer uses flash pan, a tube lead straight into the gun barrel, the tupe had an exposive cap on it that exploded when struck
    1830: Back action lock
    1835: Colt revolver - first mass-produced, multi-shot, revolving firearms
    1840: Pin-fire cartridges
    1850: Shotguns
    1859: Full rim-fire cartridge
    1860: Spencer repeating carbine patented
    1861: Breech loaded guns
    1862: Gatling Gun
    1869: Center-fire cartridge
    1871: Cartridge revolver
    1873: Winchester rifle
    1877: Double-action revolver
    1879: Lee box magazine patented
    1892: Automatic handguns invented by Joseph Laumann
    1893: Borchardt pistol - automatic handgun with a separate magazine in the grip
    1903: First automatic rifle a Winchester.


    Just so everyone knows, this is not my research or my writings. I copied it from About.com

    I think this pretty much sums it up.

    Other than cosmetics and accessories, the modern firearm has remained basically unchanged since 1903. An ammo timeline and different types would even be more interesting.


    But, that last part is just my opinion and we all know about opinions


    BOOM! [:D]
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  • kimi
    quote:Originally posted by sarge_3ad
    quote:Originally posted by drjew
    1232: The Chinese who invented gunpowder (black powder) first used it in a weapon - gunpowder filled tubes aka rockets.
    1364: First recorded use of a firearm - shooter lit wicks by hand that ingnited gunpowder that was loaded into the gun barrel.
    1400s: Matchlock guns - first mechanically firing of guns. Wicks were now attached to a clamp that sprang into gunpowder that was placed in a "flash pan".
    1509: Wheel lock guns - wicks were replaced the wheel lock that generated a spark for igniting the gunpowder.
    1630: Flintlock guns - the flintlock did two things mechanically, it opened the lid of the flash pan and provided an igniting spark.
    1825: Percussion-cap guns invented by Reverend John Forsyth - firing mechanism no longer uses flash pan, a tube lead straight into the gun barrel, the tupe had an exposive cap on it that exploded when struck
    1830: Back action lock
    1835: Colt revolver - first mass-produced, multi-shot, revolving firearms
    1840: Pin-fire cartridges
    1850: Shotguns
    1859: Full rim-fire cartridge
    1860: Spencer repeating carbine patented
    1861: Breech loaded guns
    1862: Gatling Gun
    1869: Center-fire cartridge
    1871: Cartridge revolver
    1873: Winchester rifle
    1877: Double-action revolver
    1879: Lee box magazine patented
    1892: Automatic handguns invented by Joseph Laumann
    1893: Borchardt pistol - automatic handgun with a separate magazine in the grip
    1903: First automatic rifle a Winchester.


    Just so everyone knows, this is not my research or my writings. I copied it from About.com

    I think this pretty much sums it up.

    Other than cosmetics and accessories, the modern firearm has remained basically unchanged since 1903. An ammo timeline and different types would even be more interesting.


    But, that last part is just my opinion and we all know about opinions





    What he said! [:D] Please, did I win? [:D][:p]


    Ya always gots to Show them Missouri boys! [:D]
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  • GuvamintCheese
    In simple terms.

    Iron + Brass + Lead + Gunpowder = Death....[8D]

    Me
    2007
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  • mrseatle
    This won't win your awesome essay contest but this was the earliest firearm use I could research so far....


    The earliest fire lances were spear-like weapons combining a tube containing gunpowder and projectiles tied to a Chinese spear. Upon firing, the charge ejected a small projectile or poison dart along with the flame. These fire lance had a range of only a few feet. Being a weapon that combines with a spear, it was initially used as a hand-to-hand weapon with the gunpowder shot designed to give the wielder an edge in close-quarter combat.

    Inventors soon saw the merit in the gunpowder/tube design and fire lances then appeared independent of the spear.

    Diagrams, illustrations and books from the 10th century show the fire lance being used in battle, but it saw the most prolific usage during early to mid Song Dynasty, when various northern peoples encroached on Chinese soil. These short-ranged, one-shot, disposable weapons were often held in racks on city walls and gave Chinese defenders a tremendous tactical and psychological advantage when fired in volleys. They were ideal for dealing with enemies trying to scale city walls, or for holding the enemy at bay behind a breached gate.




    schooled ya
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  • kimi
    Mr. Seatle, can you tie your Acadian notes in with the Deaux, Reaux, and Nouex brothers, about the history of "Da Tree Gouans Dat Dun Wun Da Pirouge 'n Bay You Countrea"? [:D]
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  • mrseatle
    quote:Originally posted by kimi

    Mr. Seatle, can you tie your Acadian notes in with the Deaux, Reaux, and Nouex brothers, about the history of "Da Tree Gouans Dat Dun Wun Da Pirouge 'n Bay You Countrea"? [:D]


    I still waiting for all the Cajuns to remember what they have forgoten and support the Army of Arkadian Reparations...
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  • rogue_rob
    Locust fork,

    So do you want the essays posted on this thread or the other thread? I've been doing some research and believe I know what you are looking for.
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  • kimi
    quote:Originally posted by mrseatle
    quote:Originally posted by kimi

    Mr. Seatle, can you tie your Acadian notes in with the Deaux, Reaux, and Nouex brothers, about the history of "Da Tree Gouans Dat Dun Wun Da Pirouge 'n Bay You Countrea"? [:D]


    I still waiting for all the Cajuns to remember what they have forgoten and support the Army of Arkadian Reparations...


    [:D][:D][:D]
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  • Jacob2008
    wow.. nice one locust fork!
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  • goldeneagle76
    Additions to my previous post: About as short as I could keep it and still give good info. Hope everyone enjoys. Hopefully I am getting closer to that beutiful prize you have offered up[:p]

    Between 1257 and 1265, Scientist Roger Bacon wrote a book of chemistry called Opus Majus which contained a recipe for gunpowder.

    1346 first use of cannon which rests on unimpeachable evidence, and which seems to have been productive of much effect, was at the battle of Cressey. Here it is most usual to date the employment of artillery. That day which witnessed the first efficient use of a weapon destined to revolutionize the art of war.

    Hand Gonne introduced in 1400

    A French translation of Quintus Curtius made by Vasqua de Lucene, a Portuguese, in 1486, preserved among the Burney MSS. of the British Museum, exhibits in one of its illuminations the earliest representation of hand fire-arms which has yet been discovered.

    Flash Pan introduced. With Hand Gonne it was just too difficult to use one hand to touch a lit match to an open hole in the gun barrel in the heat of battle while trying to hold the gun steady with the other hand. Also, there was often not enough gunpowder exposed at the touch-hole to ignite reliably. So, the gun designers had to come up with a more reliable system to get the gunpowder lit in a hurry.

    Matchlock was a welcome improvement in the mid-fifteenth century and remained in use even into the early 1700s, when it was much cheaper to mass produce than the better classes of firearms with more sophisticated ignition systems.

    1517 Wheel Lock was the next step in firearms evolution. It is said to have been invented by Johann Kiefuss of Nuremberg. Like a lighter the same system was used in these firearms to create sparks as needed to ignite the gunpowder to fire the gun. No more waiting to get a wick lit, and no more stressing about it going out in wet weather.

    1570 Snaphaunce first appeared (early Flintlock). This mechanism was much simpler and less expensive than the Wheel Lock.

    1612 Flintlock was developed in France. With the Flintlock the striking surface and flashpan cover are all one piece, where in the Snaphaunce they are separate mechanisms. This made the mechanism even simpler, less expensive, and more reliable than its predecessor.

    early 1700s the Brown Bess Flintlock made its appearance. By this time, the flintlock was accurate up to about 80 yards but nobody could aim at a man and kill him at 200 yards. A shooter of average experience could load and fire two to three rounds per minute.

    In 1718, James Puckle of London, England, invented, the "Puckle Gun," a tripod-mounted, single-barreled flintlock gun fitted with a multishot revolving cylinder. This weapon fired nine shots per minute at a time when the standard soldier's musket could be loaded and fired but three times per minute. Puckle demonstrated two versions of the basic design. One intended for use against Christian enemies, fired conventional round bullets, while the second variant, to be used against the Muslim Turks, fired square bullets, which were believed to cause more severe and painful wounds than spherical projectiles.

    1805 Percussion Cap ignition system was developed. This firing mechanism is a great step in advancement from its predecessors because it does not use an exposed flashpan to begin the ignition process. Instead, it has a simple tube which leads straight into the gun barrel. Percussion cap was the key to making reliable rotating-block guns (revolvers) which would fire reliably. The percussion cap firing mechanism gave an individual soldier a weapon of precision and reliability which was used to devastating effect in the U.S. Civil War.

    In 1855 the "Enfield" took the place of the smooth-bore musket as the general arm of the infantry of the line, and the place of the "Brunswick" in our rifle regiments. Here, then, we may date the beginning of long-range rifle-fire. It was applied with good effect in India during the Mutiny, and afterwards in the hill fights with the frontier tribes.

    1856 "Horace Smith & Daniel Wesson formed their second partnership (S&W) in 1856 for the development and manufacture of a revolver chambered for a self contained metallic cartridge. A licensing agreement was arranged between Smith and Wesson and Rollin White. In 1855, Rollin White patented the bored-through cylinder.

    1861 Doctor Richard Gatling patented his design of the "Gatling Gun", a six-barreled weapon capable of firing a (then) phenomenal 200 rounds per minute. Richard Gatling created his gun during the American Civil War, he believed his invention would end war by making it unthinkable to use due to the horrific carnage possible by his weapons. At the least, the Gatling Gun's power would reduce the number of soldiers required to remain on the battlefield.

    1863 Samuel Gardiner, Jr. received a U.S. Patent in 1863 on a "high explosive rifle bullet" in .54, .58, and .69 calibers. Fused to explode 1 1/4 seconds after firing, it ensured that any soldier hit by the projectile with a range of 400 yards faced the danger of the bullet exploding within the impact wound. The U.S. Government purchased 110,000 rounds of such ammunition for issue during the Civil War. General Ulysses S. Grant complained that "their use is barbarous because they produce increased suffering without any increased advantage to using them."

    In 1880, August Fiedler (Stronsdorf), forestry commissioner of Prince Reuss, managed to build the first telescopic sight that really did work.

    1918 The Thompson submachine gun or Tommy gun was invented by General John T. Thompson, it was the first hand held machine gun. Thompson was driven with the thought of creating a hand held machine gun that would help end the First World War, However, "the first shipment of prototype guns destined for Europe arrived at the docks in New York city on November 11, 1918, the day the War ended."

    1934 Canadian, John Garand invented the M1 semiautomatic rifle which was adopted in 1936 after grueling tests by the Army. It was gas-operated, weighed under 10 pounds, and was loaded by an 8-round clip. It fired more than twice as fast as the Army's previous standard-issue rifle and was praised by General George S. Patton

    The history of the modern assault rifle begins with the German Sturmgewehr used during WW2, the first rifle that could fire a medium size bullet at high rates of fire. In response the U.S. military began developing their own assault rifle, the result was the M16 assault rifle, first issued to American Soldiers in Vietnam in 1968 and designed by Eugene Stoner, a Marine Corps Veteran.
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