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Welfare
A Guy walked into the local welfare office, marched straight up to the counter and said, "Hi. You know, I just HATE drawing welfare.
I'd really rather have a job."
The social worker behind the counter said, "Your timing is excellent. We just got a job opening from a very wealthy old man who
wants a chauffeur and bodyguard for his beautiful daughter you'll have to drive around in his Mercedes, and he'll supply all of your clothes.
Because of the long hours, meals will be provided. You'll be expected to escort the daughter on her overseas holiday trips and you will have to
satisfy her sexual urges.
You'll be provided a two-bedroom apartment above the garage. The salary is $200,000 a year."
The guy, wide-eyed, said, "You're bullshi-t--in' me!"
The social worker said, "Yeah, well . . . you started it." [:D]
A Guy walked into the local welfare office, marched straight up to the counter and said, "Hi. You know, I just HATE drawing welfare.
I'd really rather have a job."
The social worker behind the counter said, "Your timing is excellent. We just got a job opening from a very wealthy old man who
wants a chauffeur and bodyguard for his beautiful daughter you'll have to drive around in his Mercedes, and he'll supply all of your clothes.
Because of the long hours, meals will be provided. You'll be expected to escort the daughter on her overseas holiday trips and you will have to
satisfy her sexual urges.
You'll be provided a two-bedroom apartment above the garage. The salary is $200,000 a year."
The guy, wide-eyed, said, "You're bullshi-t--in' me!"
The social worker said, "Yeah, well . . . you started it." [:D]
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quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
SneakyRussian,......I am totally in favor of everyone being responsible for themselves. I was trying to draw the distinction between welfare, and SSDI in a "perfect example". I believe there is a person up above, that IS that example, but don't want to point it out.
We have NO choice, at this point, as to whether we have SS/MC deductions taken out of our checks. If you are self employed, double comes out of your own pocket, like the 15.24% that I have to pay for myself for SS/MC.
Now lets say I have paid that for 30 years, and suddenly develop a serious heart condition, and can no longer work. I apply for SSDI, and after about 2 years of waiting, I am finally given my Social Security Disability Insurance benefits. I have paid for that through my deductions that I had no choice in. That part of SS, is basically an "insurance" policy, that one is FORCED to pay into.
I DO consider that different than welfare benefits.
EIC, is one of the biggest welfare giveaways in this country, that is labeled a different way. People that pay virtually no taxes, after getting what they did pay back,........then also get thousands of dollars extra, in the form of "earned income credit",......WTH is that about?
I have to pay state, and federal unemployment taxes, even though I can NEVER collect unemployment,............I own the business!
Simply trying to point out differences. I would be more than happy for the Gov to give me back all that I have paid in SS/MC taxes, and opt out of the system,..........don't have the option though![;)]
Didn't see this all. I am not sure what that in reply to. I am well aware of how this system works, what I am constantly saying is that a) people have been conditioned to the a certain type of the society b) current government of the US is not doing their job the was it was intended. In regards to a): for years and generations people have been conditioned to accept government role as a major deciding factor in their lives, as well as no self-reliance of any sort. Look how offended majority of people here got when mlincoln suggested that if you don't take care of yourself nobody will and you'll just end up dead. What do you call that other than brainwashed population? It doesn't matter in what shape or form this system comes in or what it's called, SSDI or EIC or welfare. It all falls under redistribution of wealth, not to mention supporting a huge bureaucratic machine which once created will never voluntary dismantle itself. Crap. I am writing this in breaks while some stuff is cooking up at work and I have a couple of minutes while waiting [:)] so it came out a bit hectic. Maybe I'll formulate it better some day.0 -
I'm not in favor of easy government handouts by any means and have never been. I've worked hard all my life and paid taxes. I spent 21 years of my life in the USAF. However I have a story to tell.
The time..the 1950's..My parents, young and naive no doubt..They knew nothing of birth control and coundn't care less. They had six kids including me, the oldest. I was born in 1938.
My dad had to really concentrate to manage to write his name. He had managed to get through the third grade, and that was an accomplishment considering the time aqnd conditions he had to work against.
Lack of education didn't stop him from working. He worked as a laborer anywhere he could find work, mostly in lumber yards. He brought home gobs of money. I remember once he had a $35.00 weekly pay check, and he was tremendously proud..
Things were as you can see, just rosey for my rich family until Dad had a little accident. He fell off a stack of lumber that was 14 feet tall and broke a few important bones. He was never able after that to do physical work, but he didn't know how to do anything else.
There was no workers comp at the time, no insurance, no food coupons, nothing except a church and whatever welfare the state of TN would come up with. Our church was made up of some very fine people who were in about the same condition we were.
Let me tell you now..we got hungry. We ate poke greens and dock from the woods, we ate squirrels and rabbits, we ate turtles, we ate what my mom called "creases" which was a wild water cress. The kids, including me would eat something we called "sour grass." I don't know what it was, but it still grows here in TN, and I occasionally nibble a bit just to remember..
My mom and dad fought the government for temporary help, and finally after months of trying, months of shame and degradation, they managed to get the state to give them $99.00 per month for six months.
I was sensitive. I remember how I hated wearing my socks upside down so the holes in the heels didn't show. That's all I'm going to say about that.
In 1955 I went..I joined the AF and I felt like a king..God, they had meat every single meal. They had..everyday..the best food I had ever seen in my life.
I made $67.00 every month. I sent $50.00 of it home.
The next job Dad managed to land was as a grease monkey in a gas station, and that was after I was long gone. At the time of his retirement twenty or so years later, he was..guess what..a grease monkey at a gas station. He died soon after he retired.
I was determined to never EVER ask for welfare as long as I lived, however much I might need it, and I never have. There were a few rough years, but I got through them on my own and with my chin in the air.
I did well in the military, and I did well in a post military job that I also retired from. and I have pensions from both, and I get social security. I earned every GD dime I get from all three..
Any one who doesn't want social security, or anything else the government owes you, be my guest..turn it down. That might make it last just a day or two longer for me..
And if you've never needed help from welfare, thank your God and feel blessed. If you haven't been there, you know nothing, and all you have is a big mouth.0 -
Very well spoken, gunner.
With respect to "redistribution of wealth" - that applies to welfare, but not to SS & SSDI, because those programs are based on money that we each invest into them.
That isn't redistribution, it's Return on Investment.
Doug0
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