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  • wallie
    quote:Originally posted by wallie
    I love HI-Standards,,,,,,,I have been epoxy-em,welding-em, silver sodering-em for years....I made a good living trading-em on all kinds of guns........A beautiful gun that the manufactures just cut corners on. For years they had metallurgy problems like so many times shooters would say..... Wallie-1-hole...how come I can shoot 20 rounds without a jam and on timed fire or rappid fire i get a jam after jam..... I took it to so & so and he put in a new extractor, then so & so polised everything, and then so & so put a new ejector and so & so cut a little off the recoil spring and on & on.......I would say U my friend have a tiger tooth in your barrel.......the best i can do to explain it, is that there is a hard carbon deposit in the chamber and when the barrel get's hot,,like shooting rappid fire, this little high spot comes out and puts pressure on the case resulting in a very hard extraction ....and after it cools it's fine.....



    got a call i will continue this later
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  • bobski
    wallie, all you seem to be able to do is slam hi-stds. name your choice please. please put here what youre best choice is. then, justify it. im at least willing to put my choice on the line and im fielding all inputs. why cant you?
    and most of all....define in your opinion what best means?
    i can list 10 page damage reports on just about any gun made too. it doesnt prove a thing. fact is...hi standard offers the buyer the most options and the best fit for the money. and because of close tolerences, guns built like this must be cared for.

    and most of all...i want to hear our original posters inputs. all he seems to have done is ask and back off into some corner and not help us define what his best request is for!
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  • wallie
    quote:Originally posted by wallie
    I love HI-Standards,,,,,,,I have been epoxy-em,welding-em, silver sodering-em for years....I made a good living trading-em on all kinds of guns........A beautiful gun that the manufactures just cut corners on. For years they had metallurgy problems like so many times shooters would say..... Wallie-1-hole...how come I can shoot 20 rounds without a jam and on timed fire or rappid fire i get a jam after jam..... I took it to so & so and he put in a new extractor, then so & so polised everything, and then so & so put a new ejector and so & so cut a little off the recoil spring and on & on.......I would say U my friend have a tiger tooth in your barrel.......the best i can do to explain it, is that there is a hard carbon deposit in the chamber and when the barrel get's hot,,like shooting rappid fire, this little high spot comes out and puts pressure on the case resulting in very hard extraction ....and after it cools it's fine.....



    got a call i will continue this later

    Ya Bobski,, sorry about that,,I do have a bad habit of running off

    but i'm not a young man any more and i'm very busy like with this dancing and I'm not as fast or as good as i use-to be...why I have to take care of these girls[8D],, sure U can talk U probably have just One to take care of[:)]

    Okay back to HI-Standards..... It's a great gun and I really enjoy shooting it...it's a shame the co. went to hell but that's that and I'm not going to bad mouth it any more[;)]....just to say that the HS's I was talking about were heavy used guns like 5,000 plus rounds a year

    What gun would i pick.....it has problems too, like U said they all do,,,but it has an excellent track record

    It won the first World Chamionship in 1914, it won 17 out of 19 world chamionships, it won countless gold medals, the world is using it, we are using this pistol

    Now if I was a young shooter with high shooting interests and read and seen this......I would say to myself wallie 1 hole
    what do they know that i don't know
    why is this gun so popular
    why so many winners..so many different hands, what am i missing
    why so much money....why just buy one for 200-400.00 or so after all it the shooter not the gun
    how will i pay for this pistol....i'll cut out all cigars,,no more drinking and when i go out with girls we'll go dutch

    well i bought a HAMMERLI........now I know what U are going to say...why it's a dressed-up SW 41 O YAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    but it's playing with the BIG DOGS [8D][:D]
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  • wallie
    here is a test given to 290 plus shooters in the 60's,,,i know some
    of these guys used hi-standards, but given guns that were not match quality their scores dropped considerably

    test.jpg
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  • GUNFUNCO
    RG Rohm

    So accurate I can usually hit my shed with at least 2 of the chambers.

    If I am inside of the shed-that is.[:D]
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  • bobski
    semi autos werent that popular in small cal.'s until post ww2 and revolvers were the most go to gun around. when prewar american semi's were out, the most were geared to utility duty. only a handful were actually built for match from the ground up, (elephant ear NM colt, and imagine that, high standard had the model d and e!) and too, the k series s&w's were great guns. and the guns you mentioned were popular. granted, but the game changed. revolvers fell out of vogue. like everything else, things change. and too, keep in mind, a lot of those revolvers you mentioned were TRICKED OUT. i/e: king conversions etc...
    now, we all now know your choice. 'the hammer.' nice gun. not american made nor cheap, but still a nice gun, (designed after the american 41.) the hammers success is directly based on the genius of other incorporated gun designs. not really fair to stand off to the side and say 'the hammer' is best and oh by the way, its because we watched all the rest of you make the mistakes for us and here, take our product without them. and now pay us twice the cost of your gun, and oh...sorry youre out of business, we arent. [:I]

    lets go from there.

    please take my list of 23 points and go down the list and start answering them yes or no. can 'the hammer' match them point for point?
    so this is my challenge based on facts. nothing cruel intended, nor am i desperatley trying to defend my choice. try as anyone may, my choice will never change. but for the sake of our poster, please try to compare your choice to my choice and give our reader some insight...besides 'i love my gun' and 'here is a pic of an undocumented target with holes in it,' isnt enough.

    in order to be a top fuel drag king, it takes a lot of engines. sometimes to be high gun, it takes a lot of guns. any choice of any gun can fail, break, or go out at the worst time and the mear fact that its a PRECISION TOOL makes it even more prone to break. closer tolerences dont allow for one spec of error. its why gunsmiths can feed families. and its why mercedes benz and porcshe dealers have service depts.

    stay positive and dont stray wallie!
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  • wwg55
    Bobski i LOVE to hear you responses.
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  • bobski
    yeah....i love you too![:p]

    so lets set up a scenero....youre shooting your hammer. some father and his 14 year old 80 lbs soaking wet daughter is watching you one point down. he wants her to shoot but she cant pick up your gun. its too heavy. so you reach in your bag and......do what?

    if it was me with my hi std, i'd slide off the slide and bbl, slip on a 22 short 4" with alloy slide, change mags and let her shoot.

    get my point?

    so what im tying to sell here is more than a good gun, im selling here is the word 'best.' i can do more with a hi std than any other gun.
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  • wallie
    Good morning Bobski[:)]

    I picked this gun because it is the BEST in my mind and (one) of the proven TOP DOG WORLD LEADERS

    I don't care if a gun has 123 points if it can't run with the BIG DOGS

    In todays high competition world U have to look at all the avenues for success

    remember,,,U want to be the BEST and U need every insight possible
    U want the best equipment, U want to be # 1 not #2 not #3 U want to be the top DOG and to do this U have to research and U can't go back in time and say David used a model 00 slingshot to slay 1 giant and this slingshot had 50 good points....that don't cut it in todays world

    OOOO![:0] what hell am I saying.....I got to stop drinking this early in the morning[V]

    It's people like U BOBSKI that make me drink[:D]
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  • bobski
    so you base your choice on the fact that its expensive and its made by the world renounced swiss?
    one fact down.
    22 more to go!
    drink another one![:D]
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  • wallie
    [:)]
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  • wallie
    U need to change the forums topic (BEST .22 Target Pistol) to
    (best all around family pistol)
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  • bobski
    or at least get our original poster to define BEST. best...for what?

    btw..wallie, how many 50 year old 'hammers' you see still around in use?
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  • Eternal Sun 111666
    Jennings J-22...kidding, just kidding.
    For revolver I like the S&W 617, and in semi auto I like the Ruger MKII
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  • Mk 19
    quote:U need to change the forums topic (BEST .22 Target Pistol) to
    (best all around family pistol)

    That is the truth wallie, the question was "What the best and most accurate .22 pistols", so the answer could only be an Olympic Free Pistol, such as these:

    http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=88394258
    http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=88430646
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  • bobski
    they may be the most accurate, but not nessessarily the best.
    if someone came in 2nd place at the olympics with one, odds are, as accurate as it may be, it would end up on the for sale board as they started looking for one BETTER.[;)][:)]
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