Sovereignty - Do you Know Who You are?
Our government has turned us upside down and the people are so ignorant they don't have a clue.American citizens are going lower and lower bit by bit. Who is sovereign? Some would have you believe the Government is master for they themselves are agents of change for the enslavement of our citizens. If you want to learn what you can really do to turn this country around use this link and when finished completely 7 segments comments are welcome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAVIh7MipX8
States know the truth why don't you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUNQd8YhKHU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAVIh7MipX8States know the truth why don't you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUNQd8YhKHU
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quote:Sovereign Citizens, as lofty as the title sounds, are NUTBAGS.
I can agree with this 100%. I have met people in the sovereign citizen movement and they are more radical than the nut cases in San Francisco. I have been invited to meetings in the past , I refused, We are a nation of laws,,all people in this nation are subject to those laws, its what keeps us from being like the thugs over in all those African countries that keep raping and killing all of their own peoples or the radical Muslims that keep beheading everyone that does not agree with them. To be honest the Dozen or so of them I have met to remind me of radical muslims,they are so focused on their beliefs they cant see the light. If you dont like the laws you work through the system to change them. Now I dont know who people are in these rooms , what most of you do for a living or even how you live but I can tell you that if you consider yourself a member of that movement you need real mental health for you have serious issues0 -
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by sovereignman
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by sovereignman
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
You've already said how busy you are signing petitions and writing letters.
Good luck.
I guess that's worked well for you in the past.
You know what they say about those that assume.
I spend money ,time and effort, you don't have a clue.
I didn't use the word.
And of course I have no idea of what you do, other than what you claim and write here.
I was asking how it was working out for you.
Like I said, it's been 40 years so far for me, and I see no changes.
Are you still buying a car tag ?
Marriage license ?
Filing your taxes ?
Paying them at the cash register ?
Got that land patent yet ?
Done anything about all them 14th amendment citizens ?
I'll just bet that all the local cops know not to mess with you.
Put that on a bumper sticker yet ?
Perhaps you could tell me just how much more sovereign you are today, than when you began ?
Either Americans wake up as a people and understand their place in the great society or we are lost as a nation of sovereign people.
I do what I can but the fact is it takes a nation of people to want true freedom..
No, it doesn't.
Don't blame others if you are not free.
But, then, first one must know what freedom actually is.
It is not doing whatever you want.
And that goes back to my first post in this thread.
The Jews thought they were free in 1933 and all was well.Some times ignorance is bliss. True freedom comes with responsibility to your God, your country, your neighbor. I never said it did not come with doing whatever you want, so DO NOT put words in my mouth.
I do not need big brother telling me how to dress, how to medicate, how to live, how to pray, how to eat, how to act, how to etc..........etc.....
I do not take government handouts like 47% of Americans do.
I do not owe anyone a damn penny.
I don't rely on government handouts like millions of others.
You don't know me!
And it does take an awakened NATION TO WISE UP TO THE FACTS OF OPPRESSIVE. REPRESSIVE, GOVERNMENT. it started with the Tea party in some respect,and until this happens with the constitution once again,it will just get more oppressive. I'm done Iv'e said my piece.
Freedom isn't Free!
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=20365
The States are in charge of electing the President and the Vice President PRECISELY because the agreement known as the Connecticut Compromise acknowledged the need of a free society for strong leadership, in a world where royalist ambition and subterfuge was potent, incredibly potent (a problem which remains to this day). The southern and northern slaveholding States were forced to accept the 3/5ths rule so that the 'votes' of their free men would not out-balance the votes of the free men of the non-slaveholding States. Delaware and Kentucky are two examples of slaveholding States which stayed in the union at the time of the War Between the States, and the real problem with the present corrupt government is three-fold:
1) the illegal manner in which the Income Tax or 16th Amendment was adopted;
2) the completely illegal and unconstitutional manner in which the so-called Fourteenth Amendment was written, issued, and then rejected, and then forcibly approved, by Reconstruction laws and policies, including using military forces to usurp freely-elected legislatures, including bodies which had previously voted to adopt the Anti-Slavery Amendment of 1865, and which provided its ratification;
3) the suppression and deletion of the true 13th Amendment, passed by patriots in the Eleventh Congress and ratified by thirteen of the seventeen States in the union as of 1810, in March of 1819; this amendment prohibits Titles of Honor as well as providing the penalty of loss of Citizenship ... and all its attendant privileges ... for those convicted of accepting "emoluments" or "pensions" from foreign Powers, Princes, Kings or Emperors: and the loss of Citizenship also clearly demarcates the political responsibility of Congress for setting the exact terms of citizenship and what constitutes an 'emolument.' A pension, in those terms, refers to a grant of land which pays a rent or a gift of a house or domicile with an annual stipend provided from some source or another.
The original 13th Amendment does not prohibit lawyers calling themselves "esquires," nor from forming associations or setting up their own 'bars' but it does prohibit them from pledging fealty or allegiance to the King's or Queen's Courts or any such contrivance, no matter how many layers of masquerade it may acquire, such as "the International Bar Association" or any other such corporate fiction.
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quote:Originally posted by sovereignman
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
You've already said how busy you are signing petitions and writing letters.
Good luck.
I guess that's worked well for you in the past.
You know what they say about those that assume.
I spend money ,time and effort, you don't have a clue.
So slick, have you been redeemed?
I'm joking, but then, so are you.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
Job 19:25
When the ultimate state to be desired is to serve the true Sovereign, it kinda makes arguments about this sort of foolishness seem rather pale.
Our founders of this nation knew what it meant to obey natural laws. These laws had a basis in the scriptures. Things like defending oneself and their family's. The 2nd amendment is derived from those understandings.
God
Citizen
Government
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Government
Citizen
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