Wheelgun vs. Autoloader
What, in the infinite wisdom of the GB General Discussion Forum Collective, are the advantages and disadvantages of wheelguns over autoloaders?
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Wheelgun Advantage - point and pull.
Edit: Another wheelgun advantage - Use of Rimmed or Rimless (with moon-clips) cartridges.0 -
glock advantage, point and pull 17 times - glock = revolver reliable [:D] 0 -
Auto Loader...easier to aim (mabey me), more capacity... 0 -
Wheel gun .. less rounds
Auto loader... stovepipes0 -
FTF is simple - pull trigger again.
No manual safety to disengage.
Less capacity is good and not so good. Good because it makes one a more careful marksman (on the range) - discouages spray and pray. Not so good if you have several adversaries in a life and death situation.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Endlss
Wheel gun .. less rounds
Auto loader... stovepipes
I've got one of the first Glock 17's that came to GA. Thousands of rounds. Never a stovepipe, never a jam: bury it in mud, run over it with a Hummer, rinse it off- BANG! 17 times. [:)]0 -
Don't know why, but I have always been partial to revolvers. Just a traditionalist I guess. [:o)] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by whompuss
quote:Originally posted by Endlss
Wheel gun .. less rounds
Auto loader... stovepipes
I've got one of the first Glock 17's that came to GA. Thousands of rounds. Never a stovepipe, never a jam: bury it in mud, run over it with a Hummer, rinse it off- BANG! 17 times. [:)]
Ideal conditions and any gun will shoot.
We can do hypothetical situations...
Hand to hand ,life or death struggle somebody has ahold of half your gun and it goes off , the slide can't cycle or half cycles do to the force of the grip... stovepipe ?
Revolver you can gain control and pull trigger again.
Revolver can snag hammer on clothes in same struggle, but won't jam a round.0 -
quote:Wheel gun .. less rounds
Auto loader... stovepipes
I can buy a Colt 1911 that holds 7 rounds of a great manstopper, or I can buy a Smith & Wession TRR-8 that holds 8 Rounds of a great manstopper. I live in CA, we can only have 10 rounds max, so the difference between a revolver and a auto is that a auto might malfunction, a revlover will not. I once had a guy try to explane to me why I needed to spend $2000 on a new Wilson because it will not jam, I told him I bought the same thing for $350, it's called a S&W 66-2.0 -
Auto=4 play
Revolver=4 life
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Pros (generally speaking):
- More mechanically reliable
- Less finicky with ammo, ie, if you can fit it into the cylinder, chances are it will shoot
- Heavier - if you run out of bullets, you can hit the bad guy with it and it'll kill his mother, too.[:D]
- Better intimidation factor: you can always tell whether or not someone is bluffing with a revolver...
- Doesn't throw brass in your face, down your shirt, or anywhere for that matter.
Cons (generally speaking):
- Fewer shots
- Longer reload time (it takes more training to reload a revolver quickly than it takes to reload a semiauto quickly)
- Fewer doohickeys to throw on (lights, lasers, etc.). Most accessories are made for rails and not many revolvers have those (this may also be considered a "pro"[;)])0 -
Don't kid yourself. I have seen revolvers (Jam). Bullet not seated properly. Cylinder lock up. It happens. I have also seen where a lack of powder in a auto will cause a jam and alert the shooter to a problem (stuck bullet in barrel). Revolver will not alert you other than (felt recoil) and shooter chambers round, shoots and then plays "Dude where's my other half of my revolver and possibly hand also. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Endlss
Revolver can snag hammer on clothes in same struggle, but won't jam a round.
A snag is more likely when drawing the revolver, especially from a pocket holster, but with a bobbed or shrouded hammer you don't have that problem.
Revolver simply looks better, feels better, more reliable.0 -
I,n my humble opinonwheel gun.Always seems far more reliable,Funny ,i have everthing fron a kimber colt 911,s and a few others and have never taken them hunting,My old ruger redhalk 33 or colt python takes the majarity of my deer.Thanks,Paul 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Mk 19
quote:Wheel gun .. less rounds
Auto loader... stovepipes
I can buy a Colt 1911 that holds 7 rounds of a great manstopper, or I can buy a Smith & Wession TRR-8 that holds 8 Rounds of a great manstopper. I live in CA, we can only have 10 rounds max, so the difference between a revolver and a auto is that a auto might malfunction, a revlover will not. I once had a guy try to explane to me why I needed to spend $2000 on a new Wilson because it will not jam, I told him I bought the same thing for $350, it's called a S&W 66-2.
+1 see below..wheel for me, my carry gun is either a colt det./38sp or a taurus 605 ss 357...I like the 8 rds from my 327 S&W, [:D]Loko0 -
quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
quote:Originally posted by Endlss
Revolver can snag hammer on clothes in same struggle, but won't jam a round.
A snag is more likely when drawing the revolver, especially from a pocket holster, but with a bobbed or shrouded hammer you don't have that problem.
Revolver simply looks better, feels better, more reliable.
yes, and you can fire a hammerless from a pocket or purse if need be, you touch a semi-auto with anything whatsoever, and it may not cycle0 -
What are the advantages between a automobile and a truck?
Either will perform the task required although usually one does it better than the other.
Right now I have my PPK (an auto, .380), but sometimes I grab a Colt Magnum Carry (a revolver, .357). Doesn't really matter which one I grab as both are stainless steel and both will work if required. My clothing is usually the deciding factor.0 -
I quikly read through and didn't see the fact that comparable size calibers considered the revolver is always going to be a thicker/bulkier package and slightly harder to conceal. 0 -
...Zu, now THAT, is the first time this question has ever been ask [:D]
...Personal preferance, for the job needing to be done.
...Baloney on the semi FTF and such, buy something other than a Jennings or High Point. ANY gun "can" have a problem, any.
...Know your gun and take care of it, practice then practice some more.
...Carrying I don't care for double action trigger pull weight unless you get a nice Smith and have a good trigger job done.
...and I don't care for plastic guns either, steel, steel!...[;)]
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Carried a Smith Model 66 for twenty years.
Now I carry a Smith 40 cal Sigma, or a 2" Smith Model 66, depending on the mood of the day.
Carry what you want. With modern autos and factory ammo you will not have a problem with either.0 -
I think that one of the main differences between the two is ease of operation!
The revolver is a much better choice for protection for the inexperienced occasional shooter.
I have known a lot of gals over the years that were not interested in firearms but wanted to keep one around for protection. The revolver is very easy to load, unload, see if loaded and easy to pick up point and squeeze off a round.
Best choice for the non-shooter type for home protection. In my humble opinion.
They are dead nuts reliable![:0][:0]0 -
quote:Originally posted by MVP
I quickly read through and didn't see the fact that comparable size calibers considered the revolver is always going to be a thicker/bulkier package and slightly harder to conceal.
Hmmm. Ever noticed how bulky a .357 Mag autoloader is compared to a wheelgun? How does one try to conceal a Desert Eagle, old Coonan or Grizzly?
(Couldn't resist picking this nit)0 -
quote:Originally posted by iceracerx
quote:Originally posted by MVP
I quickly read through and didn't see the fact that comparable size calibers considered the revolver is always going to be a thicker/bulkier package and slightly harder to conceal.
Hmmm. Ever noticed how bulky a .357 Mag autoloader is compared to a wheelgun? How does one try to conceal a Desert Eagle, old Coonan or Grizzly?
(Couldn't resist picking this nit)
Those autoloaders are freaks made to use ammo never designed for an autoloader.
Same with the 44Magnum autoloaders.0 -
I pretty much concur with what Sig said, for the same reasons.
If I carry on my person, it is usually my Ruger SP-101 .357, as it is the smallest gun I own.
In the vehicle, it is usually my Ruger KP-345.
At home, if I ever needed to go after someone, it will probably be the .45, with one of my .357 revolvers in the back of my pants, or the other hand, in case of an auto failure.
If I can't stop the threat with that combo,........I'm finished![xx(]0 -
quote:Originally posted by iluvguns
Don't know why, but I have always been partial to revolvers. Just a traditionalist I guess. [:o)]
iluvguns "no info specified"?0 -
Revolvers-Reliability, accuracy, simplicity
Autoloader-Capacity, easy follow up, easier to carry0 -
umm... none really. but I haven't seen any of those really huge calibers in semiauto, so maybe they can't make a semiauto action that can handle that, need a revolver. 0 -
Have a glock 19 intended for CCW....
Then I looked at a S&W 642....I bought it and never looked back0 -
Capacity isn't really a consideration. If you ever come up against somebody who can eat five rounds of .357 magnum JHP and still pose a serious threat to you, it just means your number is up. Everybody has a bad day sooner or later. 0 -
Here is all you need to know!!!!
A. If the 1st rd is a dud which would you rather have in your hand!
B. Every advantage you hear about an auto loader is a myth!! Ref.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ_jB2MxHJIhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4i6bwzGPcshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGx2wbZT4hE0
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