New drum for saiga-12 shotgun
Have you seen the new drum for the saiga-12 shotgun its at www.wraithmaker.com it holds 19+1. I don't think they are done with the website yet but they do have pictures and it looks MEAN!. I've been wondering when someone would do it, so far this is the only drum I've found.
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Pretty bad @ss, wonder what it will cost? 0 -
Ok I need one. I am sure they are going to be expensive. 0 -
I kind of like the... "see through".. open design.
It looks good.
I wonder at what capacity the Saiga-drummagazine would be, if it was the 410-version.0 -
That looks great.
I see the Saiga 12 going the way of the dodo bird and street sweeper when the ATF catches wind of this new mag.
Better buy one now if you want one.0 -
Hmmm! Nice 0 -
quote:Originally posted by MVP
That looks great.
I see the Saiga 12 going the way of the dodo bird and street sweeper when the ATF catches wind of this new mag.
Better buy one now if you want one.
+1, no difference than in the usas-12 now
i know this may be far fetched, and require a tinfoil hat, but i wonder if groups do this type of stuff to help guns get put on the list a bit faster?, think about it, it would be a good ideal if you wanted it done0 -
The streetsweeper and USAS were declaired destructive devices because they had a bore diameter >0.5", not because they had a revolving cylinder. It was an error in engineering that did those two shotguns in through a stupid technicality of law. 0 -
? bore dia of a 12 ga is .729" 0 -
quote:Originally posted by chappsyny
The streetsweeper and USAS were declaired destructive devices because they had a bore diameter >0.5", not because they had a revolving cylinder. It was an error in engineering that did those two shotguns in through a stupid technicality of law.
try again
quote:BATF promptly classified this weapon as "having no sporting purpose", so it became "Class III destructive device" under US 1934 Gun Control Act0 -
quote:Originally posted by chappsyny
The streetsweeper and USAS were declaired destructive devices because they had a bore diameter >0.5", not because they had a revolving cylinder. It was an error in engineering that did those two shotguns in through a stupid technicality of law.
I think they were banned because of their large ammo capacity and to throw U.S. shotgun manufacturers a protectionist bone.0 -
Do your homework. The BATF can't just declare a firearm a destructive device without a specific reason clearly outlined in the NFA. A bore diameter >0.5" was the one used for the street sweeper and can apply to almost any shotgun out there. They can declare any firearm with a bore >0.5" a destructive device if they so choose, but that was thier reasoning. Look it up and stop assuming. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by chappsyny
The streetsweeper and USAS were declaired destructive devices because they had a bore diameter >0.5", not because they had a revolving cylinder. It was an error in engineering that did those two shotguns in through a stupid technicality of law.
If they were banned for bore diameter then why didn't they just adjust the barrel bore like Barret did when California banned his 50 cal?0 -
bc that is not why, all 12 ga are!
also, I bet this thing costs more to make than the saiga shotgun!0 -
1 it is an import
2 military appearance
3 large capacity feeding device
4 semi automatic version of a machine gun
these are just a few of the reasons if you would read the link provided, and guess what? the siaga now qualifies0 -
With only one post, is this info, or an ad?
NO price listed. [:(]
Either way, it would give a person a heck of an advantage in a shotgun match. [}:)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
1 it is an import
2 military appearance
3 large capacity feeding device
4 semi automatic version of a machine gun
these are just a few of the reasons if you would read the link provided, and guess what? the siaga now qualifies
I agree but I belive that people like Tromix, the one I have, makes them 922r compilant. If they are 922r compliant they should still be legal since they are no longer "imports". If they name them by name as baned/ restricted we will have a problem.0 -
I Emailed this company last night and got a response today stating that they are going to make a version for the 20 ga. My son will be happy.[:D]
It will beat the hell out of those 10 rd, $100.00 plus mags from Russia.0 -
quote:Originally posted by alledan
I Emailed this company last night and got a response today stating that they are going to make a version for the 20 ga. My son will be happy.[:D]
It will beat the hell out of those 10 rd, $100.00 plus mags from Russia.
Did they give you a price for the 12ga.?0 -
quote:Originally posted by alledan
I Emailed this company last night and got a response today stating that they are going to make a version for the 20 ga. My son will be happy.[:D]
It will beat the hell out of those 10 rd, $100.00 plus mags from Russia.
The 10rd Mags are US made and are compliance parts. The 8rd and 5rd mags are Russian. People selling them for $100 are trying to get all the can for them. Many places have them for under $60 now.0 -
quote:Originally posted by chappsyny
The streetsweeper and USAS were declaired destructive devices because they had a bore diameter >0.5", not because they had a revolving cylinder. It was an error in engineering that did those two shotguns in through a stupid technicality of law.
baaaa haaaa!0 -
WOW, Ive got to get one 0 -
Jah, the Cobray "street sweeper" and USAS are victims of illegal and unfair Gun Restrictions... but truly we the people are the victims, if you accept these unfair and subjective "laws". I Wish I had picked up one of the Saiga's when they were only $200... 0 -
quote:Originally posted by pickenup
quote:Originally posted by alledan
I Emailed this company last night and got a response today stating that they are going to make a version for the 20 ga. My son will be happy.[:D]
It will beat the hell out of those 10 rd, $100.00 plus mags from Russia.
Did they give you a price for the 12ga.?
No they didn't.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Nwcid
quote:Originally posted by alledan
I Emailed this company last night and got a response today stating that they are going to make a version for the 20 ga. My son will be happy.[:D]
It will beat the hell out of those 10 rd, $100.00 plus mags from Russia.
The 10rd Mags are US made and are compliance parts. The 8rd and 5rd mags are Russian. People selling them for $100 are trying to get all the can for them. Many places have them for under $60 now.
Got any dealers in mind??0 -
Here is a link for PRE order mags http://www.uzitalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25491
Here is a link from where I got mine, I dont know if he has any left http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=92&t=419950
Here it the company making them and I beilve they will sell direct http://www.agparms.com/home.php?xid=8cc40004afb1f42f378300d4957420f8
It looks like stock is kinda low at the moment. It seems like AGP gets a batch in and they sell within a few days.0 -
You gotta want one bad. They e-mailed me back & said they would be listing them on their site for $319.00 + shpg. 0 -
Dont know what ya'd use it for, there some weight there to carry around , don't fancy that much..phew.....[:D] 0 -
HHHHMMMMM over $300 that would be a hard one. For $200-250 I am sure I would buy one. One thing I was very suprised about on my Tromix conversion is that it is not that heavy even with 10rd mags. My Mossburg 500 with 6rds in and 6 on the side saddle weigh a lot more then the Tromix. It may also have a bit to do with center of gravity. I had a 75rd drum for my AK and didnt like it, it was heavy and "hung" funny. I have 2 Beta mags for my AR and really like them but they dont change the handeling of the gun that much. 0 -
I just received a 10 roungd AGP from
John Browns Armory of Rochester PA this week so he probably has a few to sell.
I dont have a link for him just his address.0
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