Looking for a handgun and need your help
Hey guys,
I am new to the site and some of you recently helped me decide about what to get for my first gun. I purchased a Remington 870 Express magnum, thanks again its great. I am also looking for a handgun and am leaning towards the Kimber TLE/RL II. I have fired a springfield 45,a kimber 45, a USP 40, a Walther p99, and a 45 cal glock. Out of all of them I liked the kimber and the springfield the most. I was wondering if anyone had any feedback on these guns positive or negative. I would really appreciate any feedback or opinions.
Thanks,
Brian
I am new to the site and some of you recently helped me decide about what to get for my first gun. I purchased a Remington 870 Express magnum, thanks again its great. I am also looking for a handgun and am leaning towards the Kimber TLE/RL II. I have fired a springfield 45,a kimber 45, a USP 40, a Walther p99, and a 45 cal glock. Out of all of them I liked the kimber and the springfield the most. I was wondering if anyone had any feedback on these guns positive or negative. I would really appreciate any feedback or opinions.
Thanks,
Brian
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If you like those 2 I recomend looking at Rock Island Armory.
They are just as good and cost half the money.
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Can't go wrong with either one. Kimber tends to be a higher quality out of the box. Springfield can be higher quailty if order that way. With that said I bought a basic WWII springfield and modified the way I wanted it. I did the work myself and now I have a much better understanding of the 1911s as a whole. If your not into all that then buy a Kimber or a top of the line Springfield and you'll be plenty happy. 0 -
If you shot that many varieties of guns then you should be able to choose yourself by how it felt in your hand and firing the weapon.
All are class A handguns.0 -
This should suffice. Or a Sig 226 Elite. Both are sweet.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=667113560 -
springfield all the way!!!!! 0 -
Go with the Kimber.
Then again, The rock islands are perty close to the same thing for half the price.0 -
...why not buy a Colt the real deal? The 1911 everyone likes (tries) to copy.
You can get a nice basic Colt if you look around, for between $5-600 bucks. COLT, all others are just *copies...[;)]
...*(for get-r [:D])0 -
One more vote for the Rock (I just got one a few weeks ago) but in hind sight I'd probably shoulda "splurged" and gotten the upgraded tactical model, but I'd never shot a 1911 before.
Still very happy with mine.0 -
quote:Originally posted by iwannausername
One more vote for the Rock (I just got one a few weeks ago) but in hind sight I'd probably shoulda "splurged" and gotten the upgraded tactical model, but I'd never shot a 1911 before.
Still very happy with mine.
I don't mean to hijack the thread: iwanna hows your rock doing. You grouping with it yet?0 -
quote:Originally posted by Bloviator
...why not buy a Colt the real deal? The 1911 everyone likes (tries) to copy.
You can get a nice basic Colt if you look around, for between $5-600 bucks. COLT, all others are just *copies...[;)]
...*(for get-r [:D])
I thought that kimber took colts design and improved on it?0 -
If you have the money, go with the Kimber. You'll be glad you did. 0 -
Have a buddy that's a dyed in the wool Kimber fan. 0 -
...Improved?? Improve on the "original"? Kimber is a great gun, I love their Raptor II, and Ultra; but for THAT money, Colt all the way.
You want improvments, buy a Colt, and "improve" with any "drop-in's" you want to, to personalize it to your needs.
If you want MORE perfection from the get go w/o any work, buy a nice 70 Series Gold Cup.
Any Colt you buy today (at a decent price) is going to appreciate at a much faster rate than any other 1911 copy.
Since the 1st of the year, most Colt prices have gone up $100+, per model...and are still going up...[;)]0 -
No kidding is that true that the Colt .45's are actually appreciating? However arent the Kimbers machined better and I do like the built in tac rail. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Bloviator
...Improved?? Improve on the "original"? Kimber is a great gun, I love their Raptor II, and Ultra; but for THAT money, Colt all the way.
You want improvments, buy a Colt, and "improve" with any "drop-in's" you want to, to personalize it to your needs.
If you want MORE perfection from the get go w/o any work, buy a nice 70 Series Gold Cup.
Any Colt you buy today (at a decent price) is going to appreciate at a much faster rate than any other 1911 copy.
Since the 1st of the year, most Colt prices have gone up $100+, per model...and are still going up...[;)]
My midsized Rock has gone up over $200 in 2 months![:D]
I paid $400 for it and I've been offered $650 for it. I turned it down because they are nolonger avaible and it would be very difficult to replace.
All the other models are gaining value too. These rock's are gaining alot of popularity and it is driving prices up.0 -
...Yes, they are appreciating at a high rate right now.
Really does not matter for short term, if you buy right; you will have done well.
Give the Colt a few years, enjoy the 1911 everyone copies; if you tire of it (can't imagine [:0]) you should do very well when you sell it.
Stay away from any frame cutting and those type of mods, and you will be blessed with a huge market when/if you decide to sell one...[;)]0 -
Are the Colts no longer being produced is that why they are appreciating? 0 -
GRD - haven't been back out to the range. Single income, wife, 2 kids, yada yada. But, a side job just paid off 0 -
quote:Originally posted by FrancF
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=66628672
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Whoa. . .
Without trying to step on any toes here, the Kimber and Springfield are more or less the same gun, (ie the 1911), the main difference is what bells and whistles are tacked on and the associated cost.
Every one of the guns you named is good; you can't really go wrong with any of them, but the Glock, USP, and SW99 are all totally different designs with different sights, feel, etc.
If you like one of them better than the others pick it. Its all about personal preference.
The question I have is, what are you going to do with this gun?
Shoot it at the range for fun? Carry it concealed? Carry it on duty? Home defense? All of the above? Is anyone other than yourself likely to want/need to use it?
Speaking for myself only, a full 1911 is a great gun to shoot targets with (good trigger, big hole) and an excellent service gun, but its a pretty heavy and bulky gun to carry around with you concealed all day. Kudos to those who can. . .I'm not one of them. I also don't like external safeties on a defense gun. That's just one more thing to go wrong when the adrenaline is pumping and you are reacting instead of thinking.
If you want to carry the thing, you likely want something smaller, and lighter. Of the ones you listed, I personally happen to like the Walther P99. Very smooth double-action, decocker safety, great grip, and lightweight polymer frame.
I'm also going to step on toes with this, but if its your first gun, and particularly if you are going to shoot it mostly at the range, I'd recommend a 9mm instead of a .45. Less recoil = more fun to shoot, and ammo is significantly cheaper for 9mm, meaning for the same money you can get in more practice with the 9mm.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Raupleminze
quote:Originally posted by FrancF
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=66628672
WTH?
Plugging a good auction and forum member[;)]0 -
Like the others have said, if you've decided what the pistol will be primarily used for, and if you like the feel of the 1911's and they suit the intended purpose, then you will be happy with either of the two you have chosen. As well as the other 1911 options given.
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The gun will primarily be for home defense and range shooting, I have also heard of a tactical walk through range that they have in Wisconsin that I will use it at. As far as ammo cost goes that doesnt matter to much (9mm vs 45) 0 -
if you like those 2 in .45, shop around. find one that suits your budget. but listen to these guys. they are a wealth of info. if price is a huge factor like it is for me, shopping is the key. the 1911 is a great gun and those you have read about here are going to be the best reccommendations you'll ever get. trust in these guys and you'll never go wrong...well just don't ask anyone here to teach you to drive[:D] 0 -
I love my .45's!!! I have a Springfield Armory and a Thompson Auto Ordnance. My Thompson puts the spent brass right into my forehead, a new extractor didn't correct that, but the guy put a series 80 in it and I think he should have put in a series 70.
I put Trijicon 3-dot night sights on my Springfield, and I love it. I also put a Wilson Combat Shok-Buff recoil reduction kit in it. In the Thompson I have a Harrts recoil reducing full length mercury filled guide rod.
I recommend the Trijicon night sights very highly, they work great!0 -
Looks like you're leaning towards the 1911's, and, of those you've listed, I'd recommend the Kimber. For what you've listed, the TLE/RL II has what you want, especially for home defense--night sights, a rail for a Surefire, and, of course, .45 caliber.
While GitRDone has a point about the Rock Island, I played with a Rock Island tactical yesterday, and then played with a Kimber Classic II next...while the RI is a nice handgun (especially for the price), the Kimber did hold an edge on it in a few areas, such as: better sights, "crisper" trigger (there was too much take-up in the RI), and a tighter fit.
However, having said that, I'm thinking about trading my classic RI1911A1 for the RI tactical...there's several features on it I like over the original (improved sights, commander hammer, ambi safety) that I can get without bustin' my checking account.0 -
Although everybody has there own opinion of what gun would fit you the best, the truth of the matter is that "the gun that fits you the best is the best fit for you". Go out and shoot everything you can get your hands on, go to a range that rents guns, borrow a friends guns, just find out what fits the best. For my hands the USP and CZ-75 fit like a glove but I don't like the fit of a Glock or 1911. That is not saying that they are not great guns, just that they don't fit my hands. 0 -
Wait! Is this your first pistol? Have you ever shot one before? If your answer to the latter question is no, you'd better stick to something of a smaller caliber. A 45 might be a little much for a first timer.
Go with a 9mm, plenty of stopping power especially sporting +P+ loads. And 1/2 the recoil of a 45.
Most others would recommend a 22lr pistol first to promote good safety and technique. Maybe a Single Six with both the 22lr and 22mag cylinder.
Then again, if you are comfortable with pistols and have enough experience with pistols, then, by all means, go for what you want. I myself am a CZ fan, the 97 is the most beautiful 45 on the market IMO. And all CZs are extremely ergonomic. The Ruger P95 is also a nice gun for the money.0 -
Para-Ordnance. 0
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