Islam
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quote:Originally posted by spurgemastur
How did Christians and Muslims manage to co-exist on this planet for 2000 years, and why do we now have such difficulty co-existing?
You are joking. Right?0 -
Muslims are violent because they want it all cheap. They want to be the most prosperous, dominant, and influential group in the world, and they want it without paying a price.
Most western countries have ascended to their position atop the heap because their populations have greatly disregarded religion, advocated secular education, and embraced materialism. People in England and Japan and West Germany and America go to church perhaps once a week for an hour, and they say grace at Thanksgiving, but that's about it. They spend a great deal of time studying engineering, math, chemistry, and other such things, and they do so to get a four bedroom colonial and a Mercedes.
And it works. If your main goal is to get a big house and a German sedan, you're going to obey the law and show up to work on time. You're going to work hard and follow every rule, and you're going to spend your free time studying the trade journals. That's how you make partner. And when you're doing all of that, you don't have much time to kill your neighbor because he's Methodist and you're Baptist, and you are going to hire that Jew who applied because she's the smartest and best qualified of all the people you interviewed. When people want to make money, they realize that things like racism and hating others because they're different are totally counter-productive. They realize that doing so is turning their backs on a potential co-worker or customer.
And religion? Most people give it perhaps one, at most two hours a week. And in doing so the western democracies have become the wealthiest and most influential and most peaceful countries in the world.
And the Muslims really don't want to do all of that. They want to run the show, but don't want to accept that if you subjugate women you give up 50% of your talent / customer pool. They want to have tremendous industrial and intellectual power, but don't want to realize that to do so the books they really need to read don't deal with religion at all. And they need to accept that blue jeans, ipods, convertibles, and Jennifer Lopez CD's are what people really want, and they need to be allowed to have them. It gives them the incentive to co-exist, work, and to be peaceful.0 -
Islam has not been around for 2000 years.
The Universal Religion of All Time is only now called Christianity.0 -
quote:Hitler was a "good" Lutheran.
And the Lutheran Church led by Detrich Bonhoffer (sp) spoke out against Hitler, were are the leaders of islam? are they speaking out against the radicals?0 -
quote:Originally posted by Mk 19
quote:Hitler was a "good" Lutheran.
And the Lutheran Church led by Detrich Bonhoffer (sp) spoke out against Hitler, were are the leaders of islam? are they speaking out against the radicals?
Hitler claimed to be Lutheran, but his actions towards all churchs said a very different thing according to a book I got done reading awhile ago.
"Decent peace loving Muslims" are strangely quiet in my opinion.0 -
I just finished reading Robert Spencer's: Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades). It was not the first book on Islam that I have read (maybe the 15th or so) but it is, by far, the most relevant and most revealing. It MUST be read by everyone in the West--while there is still time. Below is a link for ordering the book:
http://tinyurl.com/k8s9f
Here's the website established by Spencer and updated frequently:
http://jihadwatch.org/
Another one with some interesting info:
http://www.listislam.cjb.net/0 -
quote:Originally posted by spurgemastur
quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
Let me know when the Lutherans and the Mormons start blowing up in crowded markets.
I think the radical Islamic minority has your attention.
Here's the big problem with writing this off as a "minority" of Muslims.
There are over one billion Muslims in this world. So, if you consider that only a minority are radical fascist murderous thugs, consider this:
10% of Muslims as radical: 100,000,000
1% of Muslims as radical: 10,000,000
0.1% of Muslims as radical: 1,000,000
How far down would you like for me to go here?0 -
quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
quote:Originally posted by spurgemastur
quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
Let me know when the Lutherans and the Mormons start blowing up in crowded markets.
I think the radical Islamic minority has your attention.
Here's the big problem with writing this off as a "minority" of Muslims.
There are over one billion Muslims in this world. So, if you consider that only a minority are radical fascist murderous thugs, consider this:
10% of Muslims as radical: 100,000,000
1% of Muslims as radical: 10,000,000
0.1% of Muslims as radical: 1,000,000
How far down would you like for me to go here?
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quote:Originally posted by ECC
quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
quote:Originally posted by spurgemastur
quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
Let me know when the Lutherans and the Mormons start blowing up in crowded markets.
I think the radical Islamic minority has your attention.
Here's the big problem with writing this off as a "minority" of Muslims.
There are over one billion Muslims in this world. So, if you consider that only a minority are radical fascist murderous thugs, consider this:
10% of Muslims as radical: 100,000,000
1% of Muslims as radical: 10,000,000
0.1% of Muslims as radical: 1,000,000
How far down would you like for me to go here?
Good point!
Thanks. It is something that too few people bother to think about when they just chalk it up to being a "minority." I'm sure that there is only a minority of Muslims that are radicalized and want to kill everyone that doesn't believe the way they do. But, at some point, the minority is still overwhelmingly huge and dangerous.
Why is it that this is the only major religion on earth that can't get along with its neighbors (Jews, Hindus, Christians)?0 -
Who ran the whole show 5,000 years ago, or what show there was at the time ?
In what country do the majority of the people in the world live in ?
Whose economy is kicking "A" now.
Where do most of the goods sold in wal-Mart come from.
Who is setting by quitely on the side lines and watching the " show ".
Think that one over !!!0 -
I don't gve a cr@p whether Islam is a minority or the majority. As far as I am concerned:
1. They will accept nothing less than world domination and the subjication of all non-believers.
2. They want ME, my family and my culture ereadicated from this planet.
3. They will stop at NOTHING to achieve numbers 1 and 2.
4. They care nothing for the sanctity of human life, including that of their children. For them, the entire goal is to find way to get to their 'perfect place' no mater what the consequences are, in this life. I believe if they were convinced that the murder of all of THEIR children would guarantee them a trip to 'neverland' they would do it with a smile.
5. When the SHTF, the muslims of the world WILL choose their side and it will be swift and decisive. The Christians of the world will remain in denial, hoping it will all blow over, until it is too late.
We are now close to a tipping point, when Muslims will demand their 'due' and our nit-wit elected officials will bow, in the hopes of picking up another vote or two. The Christians will see and resent this. When this happens........0
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