Hello newbie to guns
Hello I am just turning 21 and I am wanting to get into guns. I was woundering what the best handgun would be for me to start out with. I am kinda leaning toward the HiPoint 9mm compact. (Mostly for its price) Is that a good start off handgun? Any and all help would be great thank you
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I haven't had any experience with Hi Point, but I've always been leery of guns that can be bought for less than a pair of sneakers.[;)]
I'd recommend saving up a little bit more and buying a CZ in 9mm. They're good reliable guns that are simple to operate and easy to maintain. My friend owns a CZ 75 and it's never given him any grief whatsoever. It's a little more than a Hi Point, but the added cost is worth it in my opinion.0 -
start off with a .22 because you can get in plenty of practice with ammo that's cheap, it uses less cleaning supplies, any .22 will be less expensive than a larger caliber, and it's no big deal if you do smoething wrong (somehow) like gouge, break or crack something. you'll learn how to take care of it. no matter how much you think you know right now, you're wrong. you'll see when you get more experience.
when moving up to a larger caliber, go to a shooting range and rent a 9mm, .40 and .45 to eliminate which class of recoil you don't care for. you may think 9mm is too wimpy, or .45 is too much. at this point you're only looking at recoil so pay no attention to whether or not you like the style of the gun or feel of the grips.
then when you actually go to select a gun to get for keeps, it's mostly what fits your hand that matters most. what type of handgun you get depends on what you want to do with it.
when I started out, I never shot anything bigger than a 22. I rented a 9mm and 45. I was scared to shoot a 45. after 1 magazine, I was doing double taps and ended up blasting off 4 more boxes of ammo, it was so much fun. didn't bother with the 9mm. you never know about recoil until you try it.0 -
My first pistol was a 40caliber CZ. I still have it, thousands of rounds later. I'll never get rid of it. Still my favorite.
Doubt you'll say that about a Hi Point.
Save your money and get a Taurus or EAA Witness(CZ75 clone).0 -
Start out with a .22 practice as much as possible,and never buy a Taurus.Spend a little more and buy a gun that will not need to be returned for repair,Ruger,Browning, S&W. 0 -
I won't talk bad about hipoint. I do own one, but have not shot it as of yet. And those I do know with them say they are decent plinkers.
But I will recoment a Rock Island if you are wanting a large caliber handgun. They are decently priced and are great guns. I own 5 of them and not one has had a single problem. They are also fully upgradeable with aftermarket parts if you chose to do so.
But I also agree with others as far as a .22 for your first to start learning with untill you get familiar with handleing them. These can be gotten at good prices and give years of enjoyment.
Also if you have a range near you that has gun rental you can try different guns to see which is most comfortable to you.
Also first starting out you may consider a revolver rather than semi-auto for learning porposes.0 -
I started my youngest at age 5 with a Colt 1908 25acp, he soon graduated to a Colt Gov't .380, Colt Commander 9mm, Colt .400 Corbon Gov't and finally a full size Gov't model in 45acp. At 18 he understands, respects, and handles them all well.
I am partial to the 1911 platform. May cost a lil more, but has quite a dependable history.
Just my 2 cents.
Paul
Mountain Magic Gunsmithing0 -
.22 Ruger or Browning Buck . 0 -
Start with a 22 then get yourself a 9mm or 45acp.
Do not buy that hunk of junk hipoint. When you realize what a turd it is you will also realize that you are stuck with it as the resale value is half or more.
If you are looking for a full power handgun keep an eye out for a nice used gun.
Use that $150 that the high point costs as a down payment on something else.
This guy has some deals on used Glocks and Smith & Wesson DA pistols.
http://www.summitgunbroker.com/0 -
Dont get a high point, those are junk. What you will end up doing is thinking its junk and going to buy a new one anyways, and you wont be able to get anything out of the hi-point. I would stay stick with a 9mm, it wont be as cheap as a 22 but you can still plink pretty cheaply, and you have your self a shooter. After about 2 months with a 22 you will want something better. Remember things like a 45, 44mag are expensive to shoot. If you want a good all around gun go look for a RUGER. Ruger P89 and P94's are nice. You can get a new P94 or P89 for about 350-400, go used and you can probably look at something like 300. Trust me spend the extra 150 and get the ruger. Most on here wont be able to find anything wrong with a Ruger. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by buschmaster
start off with a .22 because you can get in plenty of practice with ammo that's cheap, it uses less cleaning supplies, any .22 will be less expensive than a larger caliber, and it's no big deal if you do smoething wrong (somehow) like gouge, break or crack something. you'll learn how to take care of it. no matter how much you think you know right now, you're wrong. you'll see when you get more experience.
when moving up to a larger caliber, go to a shooting range and rent a 9mm, .40 and .45 to eliminate which class of recoil you don't care for. you may think 9mm is too wimpy, or .45 is too much. at this point you're only looking at recoil so pay no attention to whether or not you like the style of the gun or feel of the grips.
then when you actually go to select a gun to get for keeps, it's mostly what fits your hand that matters most. what type of handgun you get depends on what you want to do with it.
when I started out, I never shot anything bigger than a 22. I rented a 9mm and 45. I was scared to shoot a 45. after 1 magazine, I was doing double taps and ended up blasting off 4 more boxes of ammo, it was so much fun. didn't bother with the 9mm. you never know about recoil until you try it.
Not my .22! I could've gotten a nice Springfield 1911 for what I payed for mine.
I'd save up about $700 and get a 1911. You're better off with the .45 ACP anyway. Stay away from HiPoints. The instant you buy them, they depreciate by 50%.0 -
I sound like an echo, I know, but, DON'T buy the Hi-Point. Instead, get a GOOD .22 and learn to shoot. If you buy a centerfire pistol as your first, you probably won't spend what it takes on ammo to become an accomplished shot. You can do this with a .22 with minimal cost, and the skills you develop will translate into a bigger caliber later on. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
.22 Ruger or Browning Buck .
Nothing more need be said.0 -
Forget the Hi point, get a ruger .22 for practice, and then move on up to the bigger stuff. 0 -
I know a few guys that have Hipoints that function flawlessly..... however they can't hit a barn from inside. Since a large part of handgun fun includes being able to hit something save another 100-150 bucks and get a used Ruger, CZ or Sig. FWIW stay away form the small pocket autos to start with as many have the same accuracy problems and they can be a little harder to control. 0 -
I would recommend a Taurus revolver in .22. They are fairly inexpensive and Taurus puts out a fine product these days. They also have a lifetime warranty on their guns.
BTW...welcome aboard![:)]0 -
For a first handgun, a Ruger 22 pistol. They are reliable, accurate, and will allow you to shoot a lot cheaper than the big rounds. Same principles of marksmanship apply. When you are ready to move up a notch, look for a good 38 Special or better, 357 Mag revolver. While everyone is chasing the latest .423 Crunchenticker, the nice older Smiths, Colts, Dan Wessons, Taurus and Ruger revolvers are going for CHEEP prices. They will last longer than you will. By then you may have shot a few different arms, and find one you really like. DO look at the auctions here for used guns- there are nice ones every day. Good luck, shoot safe, WEAR your ear and eye protection. Now go buy a gun! 0 -
O.K. , Welcome aboard , as you will soon see , this place is a blas , full of great info and a ZOO at the same time...Just remember , beleive only half what you read , and as far as the 'new gun thing' , find something you like/feels good can afford , shoot,shoot and shott and then buy One of Each Gun that You Can........
Have a Blast !!!
d.a.stearns
Gunsmith / LEO
Niota , Tn0 -
If you are ok with a single action a Star 9mm can be had for $200 or less. Looks and fells like a 1911. Accurate and dependable, and fun to shoot. Welcome aboard. 0 -
Welcome to the board! Dont buy now, go rent and see what you like.
But a 22 is your best bet if you are just starting out in the sport.0 -
everyone has given you good advice 0 -
.22's are the greatest starters for cheapness and the low noise levels. 17 hmr isnt bad either. start small then go big. 0 -
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Not my .22! I could've gotten a nice Springfield 1911 for what I payed for mine.
I'd save up about $700 and get a 1911. You're better off with the .45 ACP anyway. Stay away from HiPoints. The instant you buy them, they depreciate by 50%.
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Ok the kid is starting out, I dont think 700 bucks is reality. Besides a 45 is proabably one of the harder pistols to learn how to shoot accurately. Not good advice0 -
I concur with what nunn said. Also, I wouldn't buy a new one. Used is just as good and cheaper. 0 -
.22 Smith & Wesson 6" stainless revolver. 0 -
Ruger Single Six is also another option. Get both cylinders, when you get bored with the 22lr, slap the 22mag cylinder in there and FEEL THE POWER!
Save up and get one. You'll be much happier with this than a hipoint.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=638736340 -
Get yourself a Beretta U22, decent price and good shooting pistols. It will cost more than a Hi Point, but you're best to stay away from Hi Points and save your money for a geed firearm. 0 -
What might be a good idea
is if you have a range close by
that rents out handguns,rent a few
to try 'em out. See what you like,
read up on it ,the pros and cons
and buy one if you've a mind to.
One big word of caution though, unless
you have extreme discipline and training
you'll never own just one[;)]
Sorry didn't see what SGniner posted-ditto here0 -
Yea this advise is great thank you so much for the info and the welcome. There is a very good shooting range about half an hour from where i live. If any of you are in the Columbus area New albany shooting range would probibly be my best bet. I was also thinking about going to a gun show. Atleast from what I have heard they have really cheap guns. Oh and I am pretty sure I wont just buy one. I have shot other guns including a 9mm, .380, and a .45. I prefer the 9mm. Also I have one question about the Consealed weapons permit. Does anyone know the law about that in Ohio? I have moved here last year from Chicago where as many of you know is not even permitted. Also I was looking at some bolt action rifles at my local gun shop. I have never shoot a rifle before they were mostly WW II russian models for around 80 bucks. Do those have alot of kick I have shot a 12 gauge shotgun before do they have more of less kick. and once again thank you for all the advice. Also I am probibly going to buy a used CZ 0 -
quote:Originally posted by GriZzeL
................... Also I have one question about the Consealed weapons permit. Does anyone know the law about that in Ohio? CZ
www.packing.org
go with a good .45 like a springfeild0 -
This is part of what www.packing.org says about Ohio. Ohio is a "Shall Issue" State.
Documents required
Date updated: Jul 31, 2005 @ 1:29 pm
You will need to:
? Submit an application (provided by the Sheriff free of charge)
? Provide a photo taken within 30 days of applying
? Submit an original or photocopy of a certificate of completion of a firearm safety class
? Read the state's pamphlet on deadly force (provided)
? Provide fingerprints to be taken by the Sheriff's office equipment
Notes:
? Initial training must be less than three years old
? Renewal training must be within the last six years
? The color photo (front view, head and shoulders, substantially similar to a 2-inch-by-2- inch passport photo) taken within 30 days of the application date accompany the completed application.0
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