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  • kimi
    [:)]
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  • mrseatle
    I really don't like hyphen's either, and am sad to see the growing number of "dual-citizens" also. I think most people come to identify with these hyphen groups is out of fear. They feel more secure buying into the illusion of identity with whatever the "hyphen" is.

    All kidding aside though; Arkadians know, that you can not serve God and mammon.
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  • 1911a1-fan
    and we wonder why there is racism, oh i forgot no one here is RACIST

    i am 100% full blooded American, all 4 of my grand parents where not, i was born and raised on American soil, i am proud to be an American without an identity crisis
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  • kimi
    quote:Originally posted by mrseatle
    I really don't like hyphen's either, and am sad to see the growing number of "dual-citizens" also. I think most people come to identify with these hyphen groups is out of fear. They feel more secure buying into the illusion of identity with whatever the "hyphen" is.

    All kidding aside though; Arkadians know, that you can not serve God and mammon.


    mrseatle: Do you think "beating the system" in terms of greed and handouts just might be the most motivating factor to do with the hypenated Americans?
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  • bpost
    quote:Originally posted by mrseatle
    I really don't like hyphen's either, and am sad to see the growing number of "dual-citizens" also. I think most people come to identify with these hyphen groups is out of fear. They feel more secure buying into the illusion of identity with whatever the "hyphen" is.

    All kidding aside though; Arkadians know, that you can not serve God and mammon.


    Being a hyphen American is the first step towards being a victim. If we were all the same it would remove victimhood from the list of places that Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton can make a living off the system.
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  • kimi
    Bumper Sticker: Hypen American? Call Beachwood 45789 for date - Hillary.
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  • Svobodov
    The hypen thing came out as a way for people to confirm that yes, they're black, yes, they're Japanese, yes, they're from Ireland, and they're ALSO proud Americans. You think everyone was just called "American" back in the sixties when the phrase first came out? You think that's true now? It's an expression of unity and a response to all the people for whom the only 'Americans' are white dudes whose ancestors came over on the Mayflower and an 'african-american' or a 'chinese-american' or a 'mexican-american' is just a black person or a chink or a beaner and has no place in this country. It's a response to all those Nation of Islam or Aztlan or whatever idiots from their own side who agree and want to break off from America. It's an expression of loyalty, and will stay that way until where your people are from doesn't matter anymore and you can look at a black dude and honestly not even notice that he's black. Bitching about something so rooted in our recent past and struggles just shows you don't know or care much about the history of this country or the people who live in it. And that's un-American; how's that for a hyphen?
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  • bpost
    quote:Originally posted by Svobodov
    The hypen thing came out as a way for people to confirm that yes, they're black, yes, they're Japanese, yes, they're from Ireland, and they're ALSO proud Americans. You think everyone was just called "American" back in the sixties when the phrase first came out? You think that's true now? It's an expression of unity and a response to all the people for whom the only 'Americans' are white dudes whose ancestors came over on the Mayflower and an 'african-american' or a 'chinese-american' or a 'mexican-american' is just a black person or a chink or a beaner and has no place in this country. It's a response to all those Nation of Islam or Aztlan or whatever idiots from their own side who agree and want to break off from America. It's an expression of loyalty, and will stay that way until where your people are from doesn't matter anymore and you can look at a black dude and honestly not even notice that he's black. Bitching about something so rooted in our recent past and struggles just shows you don't know or care much about the history of this country or the people who live in it. And that's un-American; how's that for a hyphen?


    How the hell should I know?

    It is such a disjointed run on paragraph that I can't figure out what the hell you are saying.
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  • tacking1
    quote:Originally posted by bpost1958
    quote:Originally posted by Svobodov
    The hypen thing came out as a way for people to confirm that yes, they're black, yes, they're Japanese, yes, they're from Ireland, and they're ALSO proud Americans. You think everyone was just called "American" back in the sixties when the phrase first came out? You think that's true now? It's an expression of unity and a response to all the people for whom the only 'Americans' are white dudes whose ancestors came over on the Mayflower and an 'african-american' or a 'chinese-american' or a 'mexican-american' is just a black person or a chink or a beaner and has no place in this country. It's a response to all those Nation of Islam or Aztlan or whatever idiots from their own side who agree and want to break off from America. It's an expression of loyalty, and will stay that way until where your people are from doesn't matter anymore and you can look at a black dude and honestly not even notice that he's black. Bitching about something so rooted in our recent past and struggles just shows you don't know or care much about the history of this country or the people who live in it. And that's un-American; how's that for a hyphen?


    How the hell should I know?

    It is such a disjointed run on paragraph that I can't figure out what the hell you are saying.


    shouldn't that be "run-on"?
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  • bpost
    quote:Originally posted by tacking1
    quote:Originally posted by bpost1958
    quote:Originally posted by Svobodov
    The hypen thing came out as a way for people to confirm that yes, they're black, yes, they're Japanese, yes, they're from Ireland, and they're ALSO proud Americans. You think everyone was just called "American" back in the sixties when the phrase first came out? You think that's true now? It's an expression of unity and a response to all the people for whom the only 'Americans' are white dudes whose ancestors came over on the Mayflower and an 'african-american' or a 'chinese-american' or a 'mexican-american' is just a black person or a chink or a beaner and has no place in this country. It's a response to all those Nation of Islam or Aztlan or whatever idiots from their own side who agree and want to break off from America. It's an expression of loyalty, and will stay that way until where your people are from doesn't matter anymore and you can look at a black dude and honestly not even notice that he's black. Bitching about something so rooted in our recent past and struggles just shows you don't know or care much about the history of this country or the people who live in it. And that's un-American; how's that for a hyphen?


    How the hell should I know?

    It is such a disjointed run on paragraph that I can't figure out what the hell you are saying.


    shouldn't that be "run-on"?


    I am boycotting hyphens [:D]
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  • kimi
    quote:Originally posted by Svobodov
    The hypen thing came out as a way for people to confirm that yes, they're black, yes, they're Japanese, yes, they're from Ireland, and they're ALSO proud Americans. You think everyone was just called "American" back in the sixties when the phrase first came out? You think that's true now? It's an expression of unity and a response to all the people for whom the only 'Americans' are white dudes whose ancestors came over on the Mayflower and an 'african-american' or a 'chinese-american' or a 'mexican-american' is just a black person or a chink or a beaner and has no place in this country. It's a response to all those Nation of Islam or Aztlan or whatever idiots from their own side who agree and want to break off from America. It's an expression of loyalty, and will stay that way until where your people are from doesn't matter anymore and you can look at a black dude and honestly not even notice that he's black. Bitching about something so rooted in our recent past and struggles just shows you don't know or care much about the history of this country or the people who live in it. And that's un-American; how's that for a hyphen?


    Bumper Sticker: Un-American? - Call Hillary
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  • Queen of Swords
    I don't have a big problem with the hyphen. I am extremely proud of my heritage, the history and beautiful traditions of my forebearers, and their contributions to society, and their sacrifices, and can understand how others can be so.

    America is a big hyphenated nation. But it's not the hyphen as much as the importance one puts on which nationality that is offensive.

    Anyone who grew up in a small city or large city in the 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's and 60's will tell you eacgh city had their own neighborhoods that were almost exclusively Italian, or Polish, or Lebanese, or fill in the blank.

    We earned our right to be citizens as well as you "un-hyphenated" Americans. Maybe some moreso.

    This sort of extremism is moving a little too close to the reasons why my grandparents left the "old country" for my taste.
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  • kimi
    I agree with you, rcrxs. I wonder if we agree that "all" Americans should be treated as equal, by law.
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  • Queen of Swords
    I would expect nothing less.

    But that was not the issue of the original post.....
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  • kimi
    Bless you.
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  • Svobodov
    Kimi: You mean that's not already her campaign slogan?
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  • onetonson
    quote:How about no hyphen: I am:


    ScotchEnglishIrishGermanDutchCherokeeItalianAMERICAN ??

    Doug

    you are a hienz 57, mmmmm BBQ


    I'm a rural-american
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  • kimi
    quote:Originally posted by Svobodov
    Kimi: You mean that's not already her campaign slogan?


    You're right about that Un-American bit fitting her image to a "T" - so, unofficially, it's her slogan alright.
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  • mongrel1776
    I share SaxonPig's thinking. I don't care what someone else wants to be called. If their request strikes me as too ridiculous to honor, I don't call them anything, and try to avoid dealing with them. Usually the worst offenders are too self-absorbed to even notice.

    Incidentally -- correct me if I'm wrong -- but "Native American" is, in any literal sense, a bogus label. I understand the context in which it's meant, but -- in terms of ancestry, "Native Americans" are no more so than I am. Their ancestors may have been the first to arrive here (all evidence at present dictates that they were), but they did, in fact, arrive here after leaving somewhere else. Same as my ancestors.

    If this is interpreted as a racist statement, I apologize. It isn't meant as such. Like I said, I understand and accept the use of "native" in the sense it's intended -- "we were here first."

    I will also apologize, in advance, for stating that what was to one person a disjointed, run on paragraph, made perfect sense to me. Since English is (or should be) the accepted language of this country, I've worked hard at being able to actually understand it.
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  • Queen of Swords
    quote:Originally posted by mongrel1776
    I share SaxonPig's thinking. I don't care what someone else wants to be called. If their request strikes me as too ridiculous to honor, I don't call them anything, and try to avoid dealing with them. Usually the worst offenders are too self-absorbed to even notice.

    Incidentally -- correct me if I'm wrong -- but "Native American" is, in any literal sense, a bogus label. I understand the context in which it's meant, but -- in terms of ancestry, "Native Americans" are no more so than I am. Their ancestors may have been the first to arrive here (all evidence at present dictates that they were), but they did, in fact, arrive here after leaving somewhere else. Same as my ancestors.

    If this is interpreted as a racist statement, I apologize. It isn't meant as such. Like I said, I understand and accept the use of "native" in the sense it's intended -- "we were here first."

    I will also apologize, in advance, for stating that what was to one person a disjointed, run on paragraph, made perfect sense to me. Since English is (or should be) the accepted language of this country, I've worked hard at being able to actually understand it.


    Only so far before your ancestor that they are considered the "indiginous" people of the Americas.
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  • mongrel1776
    quote:Originally posted by rcrxs old lady
    quote:Originally posted by mongrel1776
    I share SaxonPig's thinking. I don't care what someone else wants to be called. If their request strikes me as too ridiculous to honor, I don't call them anything, and try to avoid dealing with them. Usually the worst offenders are too self-absorbed to even notice.

    Incidentally -- correct me if I'm wrong -- but "Native American" is, in any literal sense, a bogus label. I understand the context in which it's meant, but -- in terms of ancestry, "Native Americans" are no more so than I am. Their ancestors may have been the first to arrive here (all evidence at present dictates that they were), but they did, in fact, arrive here after leaving somewhere else. Same as my ancestors.

    If this is interpreted as a racist statement, I apologize. It isn't meant as such. Like I said, I understand and accept the use of "native" in the sense it's intended -- "we were here first."

    I will also apologize, in advance, for stating that what was to one person a disjointed, run on paragraph, made perfect sense to me. Since English is (or should be) the accepted language of this country, I've worked hard at being able to actually understand it.


    Only so far before your ancestor that they are considered the "indiginous" people of the Americas.


    Another forum I used to participate on had a "smiley" giving a thumbs-up. Also one tipping its hat. Consider both directed your way. At some point "a long, long time ago" becomes synonymous, for all practical purposes, with "forever". I would say the original inhabitants of this country can be considered to have passed that point -- a long, long time ago.
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  • FEENIX
    "We are all MUTTS !" [:p]
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  • Jorge
    Not Mutts, but "Uber-Americans".
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  • mongrel1776
    quote:Originally posted by FEENIX
    "We are all MUTTS !" [:p]

    Or mongrels.... [:D]
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  • Jorge
    Mongrel-Americans.

    I like the sound of that...

    [:D]
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  • FEENIX
    quote:Originally posted by mongrel1776
    quote:Originally posted by FEENIX
    "We are all MUTTS !" [:p]

    Or mongrels.... [:D]


    quote:Originally posted by Polite Psycho
    Mongrel-Americans.

    I like the sound of that...

    [:D]


    ... and am proud to be one [^].
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