Interviewing? Hide the tattoos and piercings
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Depends on the job one is trying to get as far as I am concerned. 0 -
Having lived in Japan for a number of years, can read a little of it (Kanji).
In our local NAPA store one of the local young men who drives one of those little cars with a loud exhaust and even louder boom box appeared with a bright shiney new tattoo on the back of his neck. Tattoo was in Kanji. Have no idea what it said so asked him. He proudly told me it had something to do with being a big stud or something on that order. He knows that I can speak some Japanese and in a round about way asked me for confirmation. After looking it over real good, I told him that as far as I knew it meant something altogether dfferent, something on the order of sex slave and he probably ought to get another opinion. He went up the street to the Japanese resturant (Thai folks over there), they laughed at him and wouldn't tell him. He then checked with the Chinese folks at the buffet, they laughed and told him it said something about a flea garden. He ended up getting the tattoo removed.
My nephew got a tattoo on his 18th birthday. Turns out its a latino gang tattoo. OOPS.
Point is, don't get one unless you know exactly what it means. Those things are permanent and don't wash off.
I've got 5 myself. They've been there for almost 40 years. Wish that I'd not gotten 3 of them. Guess they'll be with me for a while longer.
As far as hiring someone with tats, depends on where it is and what it says or depicts.
Body piercings, well I guess if all else were equal between 2 folks wanting the same job, the one without (depending on what was pierced) would probably get the nod.0 -
Spent $15 to get one put on in Southeast Asia. Came home and spent over $3000 getting it removed, and it hurt a lot more for a lot longer.
Lesson learned, don't get permanent markings while young, dumb and under the influence of alcohol.0 -
I smile to myself on the beach often ... and wonder how much money
is going to be spent by young women in the future when they come
to their (more) adult senses and will have their 'body art' removed.
I've got a friend in 'plastics' - actually owns an 'elective surgery,'
only, hospital ... and tatoo removal are a very lucrative part of
his profits, already.
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Old man here - I have/would never hired anyone with weird hair, visible tatoos, piercings and probably some other stuff.
Nearly everyone I have hired has been in Professional Sales and/or Marketing.
It is too important not to irritate potential business connections.
Doug0 -
quote:Originally posted by zipperzap
I smile to myself on the beach often ... and wonder how much money
is going to be spent by young women in the future when they come
to their (more) adult senses and will have their 'body art' removed.
I've got a friend in 'plastics' - actually owns an 'elective surgery,'
only, hospital ... and tatoo removal are a very lucrative part of
his profits, already.
[8D]
My little $3000 in 1974 will be tens of thousands today![}:)]0 -
I work for an outfit that has seminars on how to get hired and how to get promoted. One of the things they're always saying is "don't have tatoos, don't have piercings," or "if you have to have tatoos and piercings, make sure they don't show." Well, I've noticed a couple of things and something just does't add up. First, the only people that get promoted are women. Second, the only women that get promoted are women with tatoos. Now, the folks in HR are women, or at least I think they are, but they don't appear to have any tatoos. Is it a personal thing with them or what? I've even heard of a couple of women who were lucky enough to get interview for promotions going out and getting tatoos for the interview! One of them even was offered the job but turned it down!!!! Just not sure what's happening here. 0 -
If I am hiring for the loading dock, tattoos and piercings are OK. For contact with the public, no way. 0 -
I have 4, nothing degrading, But really nice.
I was not drunk. I really nice0 -
i have 5 an plan on getting my whole back an chest done...but they are not visible so many people have them now an more an more keep gettin em..its going to get to the point where you ol timers with none will be the miniorty an we wont hire you because you dont look like us.. 0 -
Screw them! I have not worked for someone else in at least 11 years... Tattoos are part of who I am...take it or leave it...BUT I will gaurantee you that I can do the job as good as, or better than whomoever I might be interviewing with. Period! 0 -
Don't bet your house on that AZ, it's cold sleeping in the park on a bench. 0 -
i would rather sleep on a bench as my own man then live in ahouse as a little social lapdog.. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by AZgunowner
i would rather sleep on a bench as my own man then live in ahouse as a little social lapdog..
Amen.0 -
And that opportunity will be provided - enjoy. 0 -
dont worry ol timer i will...i hate when people down tats..i think its just a christin thing for their are countless countries that tatoo's are simpley overlooked...or the fact that their have been countless civilaztions an cultures that thought of tats as a right of passage... 0 -
Feel free to move there tomorrow. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by AZgunowner
dont worry ol timer i will...i hate when people down tats..i think its just a christin thing for their are countless countries that tatoo's are simpley overlooked...or the fact that their have been countless civilaztions an cultures that thought of tats as a right of passage...
I'm a Christian...and I have many.0 -
wow your real informed on this topic or can you not type past 2 lines..you down me while i feel sorry for you... 0 -
quote:Originally posted by AZgunowner
wow your real informed on this topic or can you not type past 2 lines..you down me while i feel sorry for you...
That would be you're, not your, for an obvious genius like you, and "wow" should have a capital W.
It might not be a bad idea to use "I" instead of "i" when you wish to demonstrate how smart you are.0 -
i didn't know the arugument switched from your lack of tatooing knowldge/ignorance to my inproper punctuation..are you a bush fan? 0 -
Just read the selection at the top of this thread.
Reality trumps your rant about ignorance each and every day of each and every week.
It makes no difference what you think, just as it makes no difference what I think. It only matters what the people who hire think, and they are quite clear as to their opinion.0 -
quote:Originally posted by dlrjj
Just read the selection at the top of this thread.
Reality trumps your rant about ignorance each and every day of each and every week.
It makes no difference what you think, just as it makes no difference what I think. It only matters what the people who hire think, and they are quite clear as to their opinion.
...and why does that matter when you are not dependant on people who hire...as a matter of fact, I do my own hiring...but I assure you that I could get a job doing just about anything I might want to do, should the need arise. I prefer to continue operating my own businesses though.
On another note, I have found that my tatts are a conversation piece. I have had HUNDREDS of people, from all walks of life, approach me in public settings just to inquire about my art work...0 -
That's just great for you ECC, but the point of this is the effect they have on the opportunities for the average person, and the proof is clearly there for all to see.
There are always exceptions to every rule, just like the guy who lives to be 95 smoking three packs a day and the high school dropout, like Dave Thomas, worth hundreds of millions of dollars, but what are the odds?
Would you recommend smoking as a health aid?
Do you really think tats will improve your job prospects?
They don't make you a bad person, but they do place limits, and that's an inescapable reality.0 -
Look ECC, no one is trying to tell you that you are wrong to get a tat, but to think that it is not an impediment is head in the sand stuff.
The tats may be a part of who you are, but not having them is a part of who "they" are, and there are far more of them hiring than the other group, and there always will be.
You are adamant about making the point that you have the right to do as you wish - guess what, so do "they", and the bottom line reality is that most employers won't hire people with tats that show for any job dealing with the public. It makes no difference if you can do the job as well as someone else if you can't get hired.
Interestingly enough, that "it's part of who I am" is exactly what the folks who walk around with their pants hanging off their butt, purple hair, "grills", and a total inability to speak English claim.
Interesting comparison.0 -
quote:Originally posted by AZgunowner
i didn't know the arugument switched from your lack of tatooing knowldge/ignorance to my inproper punctuation..are you a bush fan?
i = I
arugument = argument
tatooing = tattooing
knowldge = knowledge
inproper = improper
bush = Bush
Yeah, you're a real genius, so I'm certain that your opinion is just so very pertinent to this discussion.
Practice now.
"Do you want fries with that"?
Minimum wage is going up, so make sure you get your share.0 -
quote:Originally posted by AZgunowner
dont worry ol timer i will...i hate when people down tats..i think its just a christin thing for their are countless countries that tatoo's are simpley overlooked...or the fact that their have been countless civilaztions an cultures that thought of tats as a right of passage...
Good God learn English!
There are at least ten major errors there before we even go to punctuation.
I would hope that you never have the temerity to complain about immigrants and their lack of English skills.
It's not being a "Spelling Nazi" to recognize a complete incompetent when you see one.
Tell me again, you're a genius, right?
Got any advice for the stock market?0 -
quote:ECC:
I'm a Christian...and I have many.
I'm a little surprised - quite often the bible quotes fly fast and freely on a lot of subjects.
I care noting about this issue but the issue is quite well defined in the Old testament.
The Old testament law commanded the Israelites, "Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD" (Leviticus 19:28). So, even though believers today are not under the Old testament law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15), the fact that there was a command against tattoos should cause us to question. The New testament does not say anything about whether a believer should or should not get a tattoo.
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I never saw tat's as a sin, nor really a negative thing. I came from a generation where they were looked down on as a low class style, but in modern times, I think there is less of a stigma tied to them. I had one in the Marines, as did most of the grunts I served with. I had mine removed because it bothered my mother and father.
Most vets I know have them. Most bikers I ride with have them. They are some of the finest folks I know, and some of the best people on the face of the earth.
If they are a sin, that's between them and God, because I have done a lot worse things in my life to be judged by.
I don't know what God thinks of body art, but I know he is a forgiving and loving God, so I'm not going to try to judge someone with ink on their skin.
Grandpa has spoken![}:)]
PS, I don't think the subject warrents any hard feelings or personal attacks. I would hire someone with tats as a worker, but not as a public rep for my company. Why run the risk of hurting your business because of social stigmas?0 -
quote:Originally posted by dheffley
I never saw tat's as a sin, nor really a negative thing. I came from a generation where they were looked down on as a low class style, but in modern times, I think there is less of a stigma tied to them. I had one in the Marines, as did most of the grunts I served with. I had mine removed because it bothered my mother and father.
Most vets I know have them. Most bikers I ride with have them. They are some of the finest folks I know, and some of the best people on the face of the earth.
If they are a sin, that's between them and God, because I have done a lot worse things in my life to be judged by.
I don't know what God thinks of body art, but I know he is a forgiving and loving God, so I'm not going to try to judge someone with ink on their skin.
Grandpa has spoken![}:)]
Dan, if you read my posts, then you know that I don't think that a tat makes someone a bad person, but they do place limits on people when they can be seen by the public. That is an inescapable fact and it makes no difference if it is fair or not, it just simply "is".
There are many things in life like that, and we all have to pick and choose which factors we want to select for our own lives, but the effect is there regardless of what we wish the outcome to be in a perfect world.
If I had been a bit taller and faster, I might have played linebacker in the NFL, but I wasn't.
Guess what, I didn't play in the NFL.
Actually, that may be a good thing, since my knees are bad enough as they are.0
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