ammo going up AGAIN......
Just called to get some 45acp coming....its 18.00 per bx of 50 for BALL ammo!
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It is called inflation. 0 -
bummer 0 -
I don't shoot enough of it to know what it used to be $$$ and the stuff i do shoot another club member casts the bullets so it still pretty cheap here 0 -
quote:Originally posted by thesneakyrussian
It is called inflation.
It is called Bull ****0 -
Zander had some Agulia for around 1495 if that helps.Where is it going to stop, just up and up and no end in site.[:(][xx(][V][:(!] 0 -
Reload. 0 -
Blame it on us corn farmers![B)] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by cowdoc
Blame it on us corn farmers![B)]
Or Bush.0 -
Or the Chinese! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
Reload.
Even that is getting expensive too. Have you priced components lately? Primers are over $20/1000 now. You can not find .308 FMJ and the rest of it has gone way up in price. Shot is over $30/25lbs in most place.
Reloading is still cheeper then buying but it cost more to reload a lot of this ammo then it did to buy it 2yrs ago.0 -
if america allowed ammo imports from china the prices would drop 60% the next day. 0 -
No they would not BD
Commodity prices have skyrocketed because the Indian and Chinese economies are expanding so fast.
China and Indian have been competing to buy up all brass cased surplus ammo just for the metals.
Then there is the war. Many arsenals that sold us their overruns ship them to Iraq (Olympic 9MM and 223).
If the war subsides and it won't anytime soon, prices may drop a little and availability will get better but the falling dollar with the latest bail out stupidity will also hurt the dollar meaning it will take more of them to buy anything anywhere.
When some of us (cough cough) were warning everyone here of this many responded it was just scare tactics to get us to buy more.
It wasn't
If you stocked up, you are glad.
If you did not you are sad.
I thought I stocked up but wish I had bought 10 times as much to sell to you guys now, LOL
I only have enough for me!!!
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my company makes many products in china and i know for a fact that ammo can and IS being made in china for about 8% of what it retails for here. i know this for a fact.
remington has their ammo made in america in an american factory with american workers. the LOWEST paid person in that factory makes $7 something an hour. the lowest paid person in the chinese factory makes 20-30 cents an hour.
if china started making ammo for the american consumer then retail prices in america would drop about 60%.0 -
quote:Originally posted by BarkingDog
my company makes many products in china and i know for a fact that ammo can and IS being made in china for about 8% of what it retails for here. i know this for a fact.
remington has their ammo made in america in an american factory with american workers. the LOWEST paid person in that factory makes $7 something an hour. the lowest paid person in the chinese factory makes 20-30 cents an hour.
if china started making ammo for the american consumer then retail prices in america would drop about 60%.
But then there would be less Americans with jobs to buy that ammo.0 -
And that is what? Capitalism, is that what we are all about? I do think so. 0 -
Stocked up months ago. You poor suckers may never catch on.[:(] 0 -
Ammo prices are going up because all of the lead is being used in toothpaste and children's toys. 0 -
I dont think the increase in the cost of materials has anything to do with the increase in ammo cost or atleast no were near the amount of ammo prices. I think the government and anti gun crowd have a much bigger hand in this than most people know. 0 -
I have several thousand chines 7.62x51. It works, I dont shoot it much.
Several thousand russian, and several thousand American also. Ill keep buying and shooting 308, but probalby will shoot the chines stuff last. It was so cheap I just cant bring myself to shoot it[8D]0 -
quote:Originally posted by 1776-1976
I dont think the increase in the cost of materials has anything to do with the increase in ammo cost or atleast no were near the amount of ammo prices. I think the government and anti gun crowd have a much bigger hand in this than most people know.
Yep, I think Schumer, Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, McCarthy, Kennedy and Hilary are hiding all the ammo in the basement of the Capital Buildings! As soon as they capture the white House they will sell it back to us at high prices to pay down the national debt and finance national health care![;)]0 -
Yap I shot 80+ RDS of /308 in two days at a Dollar a pop! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Nwcid
quote:Originally posted by BarkingDog
my company makes many products in china and i know for a fact that ammo can and IS being made in china for about 8% of what it retails for here. i know this for a fact.
remington has their ammo made in america in an american factory with american workers. the LOWEST paid person in that factory makes $7 something an hour. the lowest paid person in the chinese factory makes 20-30 cents an hour.
if china started making ammo for the american consumer then retail prices in america would drop about 60%.
But then there would be less Americans with jobs to buy that ammo.
thats what peole have been saying for 15 years about "outsourcing" and it isnt true. unemployment has stayed between 4-6% . the economic fact is that countries should always allow consumers to decide and shop for the lowest price. it actually CREATES more jobs in america and gives MORE buying power to the american consumer0 -
quote:Originally posted by BarkingDog
quote:Originally posted by Nwcid
quote:Originally posted by BarkingDog
my company makes many products in china and i know for a fact that ammo can and IS being made in china for about 8% of what it retails for here. i know this for a fact.
remington has their ammo made in america in an american factory with american workers. the LOWEST paid person in that factory makes $7 something an hour. the lowest paid person in the chinese factory makes 20-30 cents an hour.
if china started making ammo for the american consumer then retail prices in america would drop about 60%.
But then there would be less Americans with jobs to buy that ammo.
thats what peole have been saying for 15 years about "outsourcing" and it isnt true. unemployment has stayed between 4-6% . the economic fact is that countries should always allow consumers to decide and shop for the lowest price. it actually CREATES more jobs in america and gives MORE buying power to the american consumer
How does cutting jobs create more jobs? I am not up to speed on this process please fill me in. Are you talking about more low paying jobs to replace the "good" jobs that were lost? I do know how that works. In my home town (about 10k people) we had a large chain store come in many years ago. Yes this store created more local jobs but that is not always a good thing. Many people lost decent paying with local retailers of quality products that could not compete with the cheep prices of the cheep products. Now there are more jobs but they are lower paying so these people have less to spend or have to have more then one working person in the family. Making less money means that many people HAVE to (not by choice) buy cheepers products which costs them more money in the long run.
In a way I can see the psudo more buying power. If you have lower priced items people can buy more with their money = more buying power. The problem with many items that sell for a lower price are actually of lower quality (which is part of the reason they are cheeper) and do not last as long as high quality products. The problem with low quality products is that in the long run you spend more on several low quality products then you do on buying the "expensive" high quality product in the first place. Take lawn mowers you can buy one that costs $800 [:0] which freaks most people out. Or you can go buy the $300 "box" store mower. The reason the "box" store mower is cheeper is based on the quality of parts. Based on average life spans on these units the $800 will run for 20 years but the $300 mower will last about 5. So in 20 years the $800 mower will have cost $800 and the $300 mower will end up costing $1200.0 -
Would you really want the Chinese exporting ammo to the US anyway with their terrible quality control standards? At least bullets already have lead in them. [:p] 0 -
WHAT me worry I reload all my ammo.<1FMJ> 0 -
quote:Originally posted by BarkingDog
my company makes many products in china and i know for a fact that ammo can and IS being made in china for about 8% of what it retails for here. i know this for a fact.
remington has their ammo made in america in an american factory with american workers. the LOWEST paid person in that factory makes $7 something an hour. the lowest paid person in the chinese factory makes 20-30 cents an hour.
if china started making ammo for the american consumer then retail prices in america would drop about 60%.
Your company is an anti-American, disgusting organization that is selling out American workers. I would be ashamed to work in such a criminal organization[:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!]
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you can thank Ben Bernanke and the federal reserve for that.
Another reason to vote for Ron Paul.. he wants to abolish the fed.
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And just what do you intend to replace the Fed. with in order to deal with banks and the money supply? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by dlrjj
And just what do you intend to replace the Fed. with in order to deal with banks and the money supply?
Article I, Section 8 of the US Constitution states the following:
Section 8.
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
To establish Post Offices and post Roads;
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of Particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards and other needful Buildings;--And
To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.0 -
i always get a kick when people say its unamerican for us to buy imports, when our very own american based people and businesses are the ones who are trying to convince us that its ok to let them rape us with overpriced items. 0
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