Well, now we'll both be unemployed...
The wife was fed-up on Thursday. She has been the shining star at the office for a few years, she's the "go-to" person there, and the doctors all come to her for information. She got called into the office manager's office and was told that she's not being a team player and that the other employees are complaining that she doesn't do anything. This is strange, considering that she's always on the run in the office and is normally picking up the slack that others leave.
So, the office manager sent her home and told her to think about what she wanted to do with her career and to offer a decision today (Monday).
So, she did.
The wife headed off to work this morning and the plan was for her to tell the office manager that she was going to work much harder at being a "team player" and then went in with a laundry list of all the things that are done inefficiently that should be revised and provided solutions for each of those inefficiencies.
The wife also decided that she's quitting at the end of June and going back to school full-time. The original plan was for her to return to school after I graduated (at the end of August) and landed a job so that we would both not be unemployed at the same time.
I still pull in a few bucks here and there selling my writing, but it isn't what I would describe as full-time income.
We checked the finances and determined that we had enough in an earmarked savings account set up just for her going back to school to pay for tuition, books and to make up for her lost salary and the COBRA benefits we'll have to pay, plus give me a two-month buffer to find a job before that savings account is completely wiped out.
So, the wife is going back to school. I'll be finishing up school. This'll be interesting. It has been a very long time since I've not had money coming in while money is going out.
So, the office manager sent her home and told her to think about what she wanted to do with her career and to offer a decision today (Monday).
So, she did.
The wife headed off to work this morning and the plan was for her to tell the office manager that she was going to work much harder at being a "team player" and then went in with a laundry list of all the things that are done inefficiently that should be revised and provided solutions for each of those inefficiencies.
The wife also decided that she's quitting at the end of June and going back to school full-time. The original plan was for her to return to school after I graduated (at the end of August) and landed a job so that we would both not be unemployed at the same time.
I still pull in a few bucks here and there selling my writing, but it isn't what I would describe as full-time income.
We checked the finances and determined that we had enough in an earmarked savings account set up just for her going back to school to pay for tuition, books and to make up for her lost salary and the COBRA benefits we'll have to pay, plus give me a two-month buffer to find a job before that savings account is completely wiped out.
So, the wife is going back to school. I'll be finishing up school. This'll be interesting. It has been a very long time since I've not had money coming in while money is going out.
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Living on the edge builds character![:D] 0 -
hang in there... I am in a transition now too!
in the long run things will be lusher!0 -
Well I wish you the best of luck. It sounds like a good thing your wife is doing , to many put up with stuff like that for years out of fear. Then the stress wears them down to a point of no return. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by sig232
Living on the edge builds character![:D]
Actually, that's dead-on.
Plus it might reign in some of the wife's spending. You'd think I'm married to Imelda Marcos.0 -
Nothing worse than to give an employer you're all just to be told its not good enough. They won't know till she's gone, then they'll be hurting bad. Bet she'll even get a call asking her to come back. Good luck to you both. Its living life that makes life worth living. 
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It must be nice to have that kind of $$$ in the bank to fall back on. Good planning on your part. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by leeblackman
Nothing worse than to give an employer you're all just to be told its not good enough. They won't know till she's gone, then they'll be hurting bad. Bet she'll even get a call asking her to come back. Good luck to you both. Its living life that makes life worth living.
Actually, that happened in her previous job. Her boss accused her of doing nothing, she tried defending herself and wound up quitting because they weren't interested in listening to all the things she did.
It wasn't a week later when the phone was ringing several times a day, asking how such-and-such got done, or how to do so-and-so.
She answered a few of those questions, until I told her to tell the office to go screw themselves, because obviously she did nothing and therefore should be unable to answer those questions.
She wound up giving all of the information to a friend of hers that still worked there so that her friend could be a shining star.
The wife and I are actually have similar philosophies when it comes to work -- do your job, do it well, and get the job done as quickly as possible while producing quality work. Neither of us believes in the philosophy of "looking busy."
With my previous employer, I got into trouble quite a bit because I refused to "look busy." My argument was always to have my employer look at my production numbers, which was, year-to-year, the second highest nationwide in the company. I would keep explaining that I got the job done (and they kept loading more and more work on me) and it wasn't my job to make sure that the other employees weren't jealous because I could find some free time. IMO, if they worked as hard as I did, they'd have the same free time and, in fact, the company could have cut staff because they wouldn't have needed the bloat of employees.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Hunter Mag
It must be nice to have that kind of $$$ in the bank to fall back on. Good planning on your part.
It is. My folks always told me to plan for a rainy day.
My first home was small and I could easily afford the mortgage with regard to my income. I was therefore able to squirrel away a ton of money, and invested much of it wisely.
I use credit cards to pay for everything, but pay off the credit cards every month. So, in this manner, I'm able to track expenses but don't accrue unnecessary interest charges.
When I got sick of insurance adjusting, I had a very large nestegg thanks to the savings and the wise investments. I've been very lucky in order to pay cash for graduate school and not have to work while going to school. When the wife expressed an interest in going to school, I cashed in some more stocks and put the money into a money market account so it would be there for her whenever she decided to go back.
Mostly it took some good planning and a little bit of luck.0 -
spanielsells we have some things in common
Me and the wife are both full time students. I am in Grad school now. I got my BS in business over the past 3.5 years without any loans. My house is paid for and I have no credit card debt. Still getting the bills paid but will have to do a couple small student loans to finish grad school. A year from now I will have an MBA, the wife will have graduated and we will be in the hole only about $10,000 in school loans. Doing it all while raising 3 kids.0 -
Warpig, how in the world did you do that? good job! Can I ask how old y'all are? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
quote:Originally posted by sig232
Living on the edge builds character![:D]
Actually, that's dead-on.
Plus it might reign in some of the wife's spending. You'd think I'm married to Imelda Marcos.
Just remember as a last resort you can list your guns on GB if money gets tight.0 -
Queen Bee office mamangers are very often threatened by bright and competent employees. She can probably expect the last couple of months to be trying. After that, maybe you should drop by the place after hours to take out a student loan.[8D]<(bandito) 0 -
quote:Originally posted by tsavo303
Warpig, how in the world did you do that? good job! Can I ask how old y'all are?
I'm 39. I'll have my MBA at the end of August. [:D]0 -
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
quote:Originally posted by sig232
Living on the edge builds character![:D]
Actually, that's dead-on.
Plus it might reign in some of the wife's spending. You'd think I'm married to Imelda Marcos.
Just remember as a last resort you can list your guns on GB if money gets tight.
Yeah... be sure to count on that happening. In the meantime, if you want to send me a $10,000 earnest money deposit, I'll be sure to hold onto them for you while I'm considering the sale.0 -
quote:Originally posted by tsavo303
Warpig, how in the world did you do that? good job! Can I ask how old y'all are?
I turned 40 a few days ago. I will have my MBA in December.
We did it by living within our means. I always made extra house payments when I could and paid it off in 10 years. No car loans. All credit cards get paid in full every month-if we can't pay it we don't buy it. Cut our cable channels down to the bare basic. Even got rid of internet until we needed it for school. I saved money the years I was in the workforce and we have been living off of it for the past few years. I did sell some guns, and sold my truck and Jeep. I still got a bunch of guns and my Harley but don't anticipate selling these. We don't go out to eat, our long distance bill is about a dollar a month. Our only bills are utilities... you get the idea. I also used some non VA veteran benefits to help pay for school.
As far as my future goes-The finance classes I have taken have also been put to good use. I have two major investments. Last year I got a 21% return on one and a 13% return on the other. I am not touching this money though just adding to it. The wife wants to spend it now but I plan on retiring and living the good life some day.
Of course a year from now when we are both back in the workforce I anticipate a major vacation and shopping spree.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Warpig883
quote:Originally posted by tsavo303
Warpig, how in the world did you do that? good job! Can I ask how old y'all are?
I turned 40 a few days ago. I will have my MBA in December.
We did it by living within our means. I always made extra house payments when I could and paid it off in 10 years. No car loans. All credit cards get paid in full every month-if we can't pay it we don't buy it. Cut our cable channels down to the bare basic. Even got rid of internet until we needed it for school. I saved money the years I was in the workforce and we have been living off of it for the past few years. I did sell some guns, and sold my truck and Jeep. I still got a bunch of guns and my Harley but don't anticipate selling these. We don't go out to eat, our long distance bill is about a dollar a month. Our only bills are utilities... you get the idea. I also used some non VA veteran benefits to help pay for school.
As far as my future goes-The finance classes I have taken have also been put to good use. I have two major investments. Last year I got a 21% return on one and a 13% return on the other. I am not touching this money though just adding to it. The wife wants to spend it now but I plan on retiring and living the good life some day.
Of course a year from now when we are both back in the workforce I anticipate a major vacation and shopping spree.
We did it a bit differently, but we have a similar philosophy.
We carry a mortgage, but it is one that doesn't break the bank every month.
We carry two car loans, but again, they don't break the bank.
We don't carry credit card debt, student loans or any other unsecured loans.
If we can't afford something, we don't buy it. We have a set budget each month and while we don't need to talk to each other about little purchases, anything over $100 requires a conversation.
Interestingly enough, we can afford to take small vacations twice a year. We simply scrimp and put money toward it and we go.
But, the key was to squirrel away as much money as possible and to live well within our means.0 -
Hell I've been broke so many times I can't count them and every freaking time the money came from somewhere. I was out of work for two years 90-91 and never drew a penny of wellfare.....Did every odd and end crap job I could find, reeled in just enough to pay the bills a nothing extra... Worked day and nite to get thru Christmas both years.
The crap your wife had handed to her seems to be the norn instead of the exception now days....I see it at work every day...Always someone that wants to be top dog but don't want to earn it... so they drag out the old stealth knife for a lil backstabbing.....0 -
that sounds like what i went through with the hospital...going above and beyond and then they need to do a cut back and instead of letting me off with a lay off they make up a story about a hippa violation.
My manager was also a female and so many times she told me i wasnt a team player....just because i went to work and did my job and didnt gossip with the others...anyway i have a better job now and gee i havent been called to the principal office in 7 months..maybe thats because my new boss actually knows how to do the job and it not afraid to do the work......tell your wife not to put up with it...and tell her what comes around goes around so that boss of her's will be sorry in the long run0 -
I was told I wasn't a team player once.
I wouldn't recommend responding " I am a team player. I just don't like playing on your team."
Under different circumstances I probably would have liked the guy, but at that moment he was new to the position and didn't want to deal with problems. Unfortunately for me, I wasn't in a position to sweep problems under the rug or pretend they were not there. If the SHTF I was going to be the guy to take the blame.
No, we were not on the same team. I could go on but what is the point.
OH well, life lesson.
Best of luck to you and your wife, Spanielsells!0 -
quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
I was told I wasn't a team player once.
I wouldn't recommend responding " I am a team player. I just don't like playing on your team."
Under different circumstances I probably would have liked the guy, but at that moment he was new to the position and didn't want to deal with problems. Unfortunately for me, I wasn't in a position to sweep problems under the rug or pretend they were not there. If the SHTF I was going to be the guy to take the blame.
No, we were not on the same team. I could go on but what is the point.
OH well, life lesson.
Best of luck to you and your wife, Spanielsells!
Thanks. This isn't a bad thing, really. All that has happened is that our plans got bumped forward about six months.0 -
My wife had a similar problem. Before it came to the;
She got called into the office manager's office and was told that she's not being a team player and that the other employees are complaining that she doesn't do anything.
She bid on a position in another department.
When she left her old department she made sure she could not be found for information.
The old department she worked in became a mess and there was no way to hide it or blame anyone else.
So the next level of management said to the supervisor (who is no longer working there) and the employees of her old department something like;
"You got called into my office because you are not being a team player......"
You don't want to leave a place like that and have it work better after you leave than before.[:0]0 -
Run for POTUS, I'd vote for you before I'd dignify any of these bozos with my vote.[:D] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
I wouldn't recommend responding " I am a team player. I just don't like playing on your team."
One answer I used once... "How can you call this a team when we have no coach?"0 -
-What school is your wife going to enroll in that would start in July? 0 -
Colleges everywhere are starting their summer sessions.
Here classess start in May, June, July, and August.0 -
Jesus, does anyone like working in a doctors' office? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Dave W.
-What school is your wife going to enroll in that would start in July?
Many universities now have rolling enrollment for many of their majors. With online, evening, and weekends class setups, it is very easy to start just about any time you want. Of course their are some majors like medical school etc that are still very traditional scheduling. But things like MBAs, IT, Engineering, etc it is very easy to start class just about anytime you want. George Washington University, U of Maryland, Penn State etc all now have untraditional schedules and doing it over the internet you can get degrees from them without ever stepping on campus. One of the great MBAs programs is from Edinburgh and you do it from your house. It is the Graduate Business school of Heriot-Watt University in Scotland, one of the UK's Royal Charter universities. Heriot-Watt University was the world's first technical institute founded in 1821.
http://www.ebsglobal.net/information/pages/prospectivestudents/abouttheschool/introduction.html0 -
quote:Originally posted by Dave W.
-What school is your wife going to enroll in that would start in July?
My next (and last) class in the MBA program starts in July. But no, she's not going to the same school or going after her MBA. [:)] She'll be attending a regular school on a real campus.0 -
quote:Originally posted by PC800
quote:Originally posted by Dave W.
-What school is your wife going to enroll in that would start in July?
Many universities now have rolling enrollment for many of their majors. With online, evening, and weekends class setups, it is very easy to start just about any time you want. Of course their are some majors like medical school etc that are still very traditional scheduling. But things like MBAs, IT, Engineering, etc it is very easy to start class just about anytime you want. George Washington University, U of Maryland, Penn State etc all now have untraditional schedules and doing it over the internet you can get degrees from them without ever stepping on campus. One of the great MBAs programs is from Edinburgh and you do it from your house. It is the Graduate Business school of Heriot-Watt University in Scotland, one of the UK's Royal Charter universities. Heriot-Watt University was the world's first technical institute founded in 1821.
http://www.ebsglobal.net/information/pages/prospectivestudents/abouttheschool/introduction.html
Yep. I've never seen the inside of the classroom for my MBA. I'm doing it all from home. I love it. I hated the classroom environment, and I'm mostly an insominiac, so I enjoy working and "attending" class around whatever schedule I want during the day.
Of course, I telecommuted for several years, so I already had the discipline to work from home, which gives a nice competitive advantage.0 -
quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
quote:Originally posted by spanielsells
quote:Originally posted by sig232
Living on the edge builds character![:D]
Actually, that's dead-on.
Plus it might reign in some of the wife's spending. You'd think I'm married to Imelda Marcos.
Just remember as a last resort you can list your guns on GB if money gets tight.
Yeah... be sure to count on that happening. In the meantime, if you want to send me a $10,000 earnest money deposit, I'll be sure to hold onto them for you while I'm considering the sale.
The Check is in the Mail.[:o)][:o)][:o)]0
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