Anonymous anti-Muslim flier raises ire
Anonymous anti-Muslim flier raises ire
An offended couple try but fail to track down the messenger.
By WAVENEY ANN MOORE
Published January 28, 2007
Joel Harper couldn't believe his eyes. The piece of paper that hung on his front door didn't advertise the usual pizza deal or offer to trim his trees. Rather, it was selling a message of hate in the name of God.
It accused Muslims of stockpiling anthrax in America and smuggling suitcase-sized nuclear bombs across the Mexican border. If the worst happened, it asked, "Are you prepared for eternity? If this tragedy happened today, do you know for sure that you would go to heaven?"
Harper, a disabled Army veteran, said the vitriolic message upset him and his wife. She jumped into their car to try to find the 20-something-year-old they had seen with a stack of the yellow fliers but had no luck.
"We're having enough trouble around the world with hatred and stuff," Harper said. "They're trying to scare people to Jesus, to church, instead of doing it the right way."
The fliers that made their appearance in Harper's Seminole neighborhood, in the 8400 block of 76th Avenue N, about two weeks ago, gave no clue about their origin.
"You'd think they would be proud of what they're doing, but it just seems strange that they wouldn't fess up to who they are," Harper said.
The Seminole city manager's office said Friday it had received no calls about the fliers.
Ahmed Bedier, executive director of the Tampa Chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said he was concerned about the "hateful content and the fact that somebody is actively going door to door to circulate this bigotry in the name of Jesus."
Islamophobic propaganda has increased across the country, he said.
"However, this is the first time we've learned about this type of door-to-door propaganda," he said. "What if it was a Muslim home? Will that cause a confrontation? ... How would the neighborhood start looking at their Muslim neighbors when they get that type of propaganda?"
Such messages are dividing America "along ethnic and religious lines, which is contrary to the message of Jesus," Bedier said.
Charles Kimball, a Baptist minister and professor of comparative religion at Wake Forest University who was invited to talks with the Iranian government during the 444-day hostage crisis, said he hadn't heard about "this particular tactic" before, but he described it as a combination of two things.
"One, we see there's an anti-Muslim sentiment that some say is growing in the land. The other is there are more and more examples of evangelical and fundamental Christians looking for ways to frighten people," he said. "Anything to compel people that you may not be alive in 24 hours. This sounds like something right out of the TV show 24. And the rationalization is that anything that opens people's eyes to the message that they are delivering is justifiable."
COMMENT BY HAIRY: Well, by golly, I had better get baptised for the fourth or fifth time and join that "The Word Is Here And Hold A Snake Believers Only" Fundamentalist Assembly of The Three G*ds church right away. [;)][;)][;)]
An offended couple try but fail to track down the messenger.
By WAVENEY ANN MOORE
Published January 28, 2007
Joel Harper couldn't believe his eyes. The piece of paper that hung on his front door didn't advertise the usual pizza deal or offer to trim his trees. Rather, it was selling a message of hate in the name of God.
It accused Muslims of stockpiling anthrax in America and smuggling suitcase-sized nuclear bombs across the Mexican border. If the worst happened, it asked, "Are you prepared for eternity? If this tragedy happened today, do you know for sure that you would go to heaven?"
Harper, a disabled Army veteran, said the vitriolic message upset him and his wife. She jumped into their car to try to find the 20-something-year-old they had seen with a stack of the yellow fliers but had no luck.
"We're having enough trouble around the world with hatred and stuff," Harper said. "They're trying to scare people to Jesus, to church, instead of doing it the right way."
The fliers that made their appearance in Harper's Seminole neighborhood, in the 8400 block of 76th Avenue N, about two weeks ago, gave no clue about their origin.
"You'd think they would be proud of what they're doing, but it just seems strange that they wouldn't fess up to who they are," Harper said.
The Seminole city manager's office said Friday it had received no calls about the fliers.
Ahmed Bedier, executive director of the Tampa Chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said he was concerned about the "hateful content and the fact that somebody is actively going door to door to circulate this bigotry in the name of Jesus."
Islamophobic propaganda has increased across the country, he said.
"However, this is the first time we've learned about this type of door-to-door propaganda," he said. "What if it was a Muslim home? Will that cause a confrontation? ... How would the neighborhood start looking at their Muslim neighbors when they get that type of propaganda?"
Such messages are dividing America "along ethnic and religious lines, which is contrary to the message of Jesus," Bedier said.
Charles Kimball, a Baptist minister and professor of comparative religion at Wake Forest University who was invited to talks with the Iranian government during the 444-day hostage crisis, said he hadn't heard about "this particular tactic" before, but he described it as a combination of two things.
"One, we see there's an anti-Muslim sentiment that some say is growing in the land. The other is there are more and more examples of evangelical and fundamental Christians looking for ways to frighten people," he said. "Anything to compel people that you may not be alive in 24 hours. This sounds like something right out of the TV show 24. And the rationalization is that anything that opens people's eyes to the message that they are delivering is justifiable."
COMMENT BY HAIRY: Well, by golly, I had better get baptised for the fourth or fifth time and join that "The Word Is Here And Hold A Snake Believers Only" Fundamentalist Assembly of The Three G*ds church right away. [;)][;)][;)]
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Joel Harper is right - we should just ignore the problem until it happens. If it had been a "peaceful" muslim family that caught him, I'm sure they would have very nicely shared their "peaceful" religion by torturing him until he admitted that Islam was a peaceful religion, then cut off his head in celebration when he did. 0 -
It's all Bush's fault, right, Hairy ? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by williamprynn
It's all Bush's fault, right, Hairy ?
Your words, not mine. BTW, do you also congratulate Bush on his terrorist recruiting? I'm told he's been awarded the Recruiter of the Planet for Terrorists.0 -
Terrorists aren't recruited. They are raised from birth in the Islamic religious schools. 0 -
Quote: One, we see there's an anti-Muslim sentiment that some say is growing in the land
Now that is the understatement of the day!!!!!!![:D][:D][:D]
About one more attack and they will all be rounded up and placed in camps in the Mojove![:0]0 -
Ease up hairy, that wasn't directed at you personally, just your kind. Sheeesh, so sensitive.
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they already have "stockpiles" of anthrax and several suitcase nukes in the US? Someone should stop making up "facts" based on "24" and campaign for a secure border instead of spreading silly propaganda 0 -
quote:Originally posted by whiteclouder
Ease up hairy, that wasn't directed at you personally, just your kind. Sheeesh, so sensitive.
Clouder..
You're just annoyed I identified your church. Slither back to your slime pit, REMFer.0 -
quote:Originally posted by fastcarsgofast
Terrorists aren't recruited. They are raised from birth in the Islamic religious schools.
As well as some Christian ones. Bomb an abortion clinic lately?0 -
quote:Originally posted by HAIRY
COMMENT BY HAIRY: Well, by golly, I had better get baptised for the fourth or fifth time and join that "The Word Is Here And Hold A Snake Believers Only" Fundamentalist Assembly of The Three G*ds church right away. [;)][;)][;)]
Well, you better do something, you are getting old, in more ways than one. Don0 -
TA-DAH! HAIRY STRIKES AGAIN! 
Sorry, had the picture and couldn't resist [:D]0 -
WHAT ARE ALL THE WONDERFUL PEACE LOVING MUSLIM CLERICS DOING TO STOP TERRIST, AND MABE CHANGE THE WAY SOME FOLKS FEEL ABOUT MUSLIMS IN THIS COUNTRY? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by dcon12
quote:Originally posted by HAIRY
COMMENT BY HAIRY: Well, by golly, I had better get baptised for the fourth or fifth time and join that "The Word Is Here And Hold A Snake Believers Only" Fundamentalist Assembly of The Three G*ds church right away. [;)][;)][;)]
Well, you better do something, you are getting old, in more ways than one. DonYou're right; I'll use you as an example of what to avoid.0 -
quote:Originally posted by HAIRY
quote:Originally posted by fastcarsgofast
Terrorists aren't recruited. They are raised from birth in the Islamic religious schools.
As well as some Christian ones. Bomb an abortion clinic lately?
Nope, and haven't flown any airliners into skyscrapers either.0 -
quote:Originally posted by fastcarsgofast
quote:Originally posted by HAIRY
quote:Originally posted by fastcarsgofast
Terrorists aren't recruited. They are raised from birth in the Islamic religious schools.
As well as some Christian ones. Bomb an abortion clinic lately?
Nope, and haven't flown any airliners into skyscrapers either.
How about setting off some more fertlizer bombs in OKC? Is that more up your line?0 -
Just because I oppose Islamic terrorists doesn't meen that I approve of the domestic ones. Get a clue, become a patriot, and try to do what's right country instead of trying to be so subversive and give aid and comfort to the enemy.
BTW, hows Hanoi Jane doing these days?0 -
The scary thing is Muslims werent terrorists before Bush. They were all peace loving hippies who were merely called to holy action (jihad) after bush invaded iraq...or something 0 -
quote:Originally posted by HAIRY
quote:Originally posted by fastcarsgofast
quote:Originally posted by HAIRY
quote:Originally posted by fastcarsgofast
Terrorists aren't recruited. They are raised from birth in the Islamic religious schools.
As well as some Christian ones. Bomb an abortion clinic lately?
Nope, and haven't flown any airliners into skyscrapers either.
How about setting off some more fertlizer bombs in OKC? Is that more up your line?
And why have you not been able to refute my point about terrorists not being recruited
And by the way seems to me that Old Timmy boy was probably one of your old pals. He sure seemed to think like you any way.0 -
quote:Originally posted by RunForest
The scary thing is Muslims werent terrorists before Bush. They were all peace loving hippies who were merely called to holy action (jihad) after bush invaded iraq...or something
You're joking right?0 -
yes i am joking 0 -
quote:Originally posted by RunForest
yes i am joking
Just making sure. It's hard to tell a posters tone sometimes. Wanted to make sure you were a real American and not some Arab posting from overseas as our humble thread starter appears to be.0 -
...always some extremist. The strange church goers that "dance" w/poison snakes... the "God told me to collect a LOT of money or..."
BUT, how many of these whacko's, vs the number of "regular" type church goers? Small percentage.
How many musloons that hate America, and want an islamic world?...millions...[;)]
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quote:Originally posted by Bloviator
...always some extremist. The strange church goers that "dance" w/poison snakes... the "God told me to collect a LOT of money or..."
BUT, how many of these whacko's, vs the number of "regular" type church goers? Small percentage.
How many musloons that hate America, and want an islamic world?...millions...[;)]
Hey, weve got one of them snake handling churches right down the road. They are just stupid not dangerous. The musloons as you say are both stupid and dangerous.0 -
People that support Hillery are more dangerous. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by williamprynn
People that support Hillery are more dangerous.
Possibly the most dangerous of all.0 -
Hey Hairball: What good does it do to preach your "Bush Is The World's Biggest Terrorist" crap on this forum? Show some balls and start e-mailing your jive BS to the White House. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by fastcarsgofast
And why have you not been able to refute my point about terrorists not being recruited
The only truly effective terrorist recuriter I know of is George W. Bush. And you, of course, support him, right?0 -
quote:Originally posted by Lowrider
Hey Hairball: What good does it do to preach your "Bush Is The World's Biggest Terrorist" crap on this forum? Show some balls and start e-mailing your jive BS to the White House.
Thank you for sharing.
How are you knuckles? Still sore from dragging on the ground? Have you been able to stand upright for more than 10 minutes? Do let us know when you can.0 -
Hairy, Tell the truth. Are you a vegetarian ? 0
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