Anonymous anti-Muslim flier raises ire
Anonymous anti-Muslim flier raises ire
An offended couple try but fail to track down the messenger.
By WAVENEY ANN MOORE
Published January 28, 2007
Joel Harper couldn't believe his eyes. The piece of paper that hung on his front door didn't advertise the usual pizza deal or offer to trim his trees. Rather, it was selling a message of hate in the name of God.
It accused Muslims of stockpiling anthrax in America and smuggling suitcase-sized nuclear bombs across the Mexican border. If the worst happened, it asked, "Are you prepared for eternity? If this tragedy happened today, do you know for sure that you would go to heaven?"
Harper, a disabled Army veteran, said the vitriolic message upset him and his wife. She jumped into their car to try to find the 20-something-year-old they had seen with a stack of the yellow fliers but had no luck.
"We're having enough trouble around the world with hatred and stuff," Harper said. "They're trying to scare people to Jesus, to church, instead of doing it the right way."
The fliers that made their appearance in Harper's Seminole neighborhood, in the 8400 block of 76th Avenue N, about two weeks ago, gave no clue about their origin.
"You'd think they would be proud of what they're doing, but it just seems strange that they wouldn't fess up to who they are," Harper said.
The Seminole city manager's office said Friday it had received no calls about the fliers.
Ahmed Bedier, executive director of the Tampa Chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said he was concerned about the "hateful content and the fact that somebody is actively going door to door to circulate this bigotry in the name of Jesus."
Islamophobic propaganda has increased across the country, he said.
"However, this is the first time we've learned about this type of door-to-door propaganda," he said. "What if it was a Muslim home? Will that cause a confrontation? ... How would the neighborhood start looking at their Muslim neighbors when they get that type of propaganda?"
Such messages are dividing America "along ethnic and religious lines, which is contrary to the message of Jesus," Bedier said.
Charles Kimball, a Baptist minister and professor of comparative religion at Wake Forest University who was invited to talks with the Iranian government during the 444-day hostage crisis, said he hadn't heard about "this particular tactic" before, but he described it as a combination of two things.
"One, we see there's an anti-Muslim sentiment that some say is growing in the land. The other is there are more and more examples of evangelical and fundamental Christians looking for ways to frighten people," he said. "Anything to compel people that you may not be alive in 24 hours. This sounds like something right out of the TV show 24. And the rationalization is that anything that opens people's eyes to the message that they are delivering is justifiable."
COMMENT BY HAIRY: Well, by golly, I had better get baptised for the fourth or fifth time and join that "The Word Is Here And Hold A Snake Believers Only" Fundamentalist Assembly of The Three G*ds church right away. [;)][;)][;)]
An offended couple try but fail to track down the messenger.
By WAVENEY ANN MOORE
Published January 28, 2007
Joel Harper couldn't believe his eyes. The piece of paper that hung on his front door didn't advertise the usual pizza deal or offer to trim his trees. Rather, it was selling a message of hate in the name of God.
It accused Muslims of stockpiling anthrax in America and smuggling suitcase-sized nuclear bombs across the Mexican border. If the worst happened, it asked, "Are you prepared for eternity? If this tragedy happened today, do you know for sure that you would go to heaven?"
Harper, a disabled Army veteran, said the vitriolic message upset him and his wife. She jumped into their car to try to find the 20-something-year-old they had seen with a stack of the yellow fliers but had no luck.
"We're having enough trouble around the world with hatred and stuff," Harper said. "They're trying to scare people to Jesus, to church, instead of doing it the right way."
The fliers that made their appearance in Harper's Seminole neighborhood, in the 8400 block of 76th Avenue N, about two weeks ago, gave no clue about their origin.
"You'd think they would be proud of what they're doing, but it just seems strange that they wouldn't fess up to who they are," Harper said.
The Seminole city manager's office said Friday it had received no calls about the fliers.
Ahmed Bedier, executive director of the Tampa Chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said he was concerned about the "hateful content and the fact that somebody is actively going door to door to circulate this bigotry in the name of Jesus."
Islamophobic propaganda has increased across the country, he said.
"However, this is the first time we've learned about this type of door-to-door propaganda," he said. "What if it was a Muslim home? Will that cause a confrontation? ... How would the neighborhood start looking at their Muslim neighbors when they get that type of propaganda?"
Such messages are dividing America "along ethnic and religious lines, which is contrary to the message of Jesus," Bedier said.
Charles Kimball, a Baptist minister and professor of comparative religion at Wake Forest University who was invited to talks with the Iranian government during the 444-day hostage crisis, said he hadn't heard about "this particular tactic" before, but he described it as a combination of two things.
"One, we see there's an anti-Muslim sentiment that some say is growing in the land. The other is there are more and more examples of evangelical and fundamental Christians looking for ways to frighten people," he said. "Anything to compel people that you may not be alive in 24 hours. This sounds like something right out of the TV show 24. And the rationalization is that anything that opens people's eyes to the message that they are delivering is justifiable."
COMMENT BY HAIRY: Well, by golly, I had better get baptised for the fourth or fifth time and join that "The Word Is Here And Hold A Snake Believers Only" Fundamentalist Assembly of The Three G*ds church right away. [;)][;)][;)]
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quote:Originally posted by williamprynn
Hairy, Tell the truth. Are you a vegetarian ?
No, I dropped out of church a long time ago. Why do you ask?0 -
I would like to see a copy of the flyer itself. But suffice it to say, from what we have heard that flyer does not seem to be a very good way to evangelise. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by HAIRY
quote:Originally posted by williamprynn
Hairy, Tell the truth. Are you a vegetarian ?
No, I dropped out of church a long time ago. Why do you ask?
It shows.0 -
quote:Originally posted by HAIRY
quote:Originally posted by williamprynn
Hairy, Tell the truth. Are you a vegetarian ?
No, I dropped out of church a long time ago. Why do you ask?
Drop out of church and into a mosque did ya?0 -
quote:Originally posted by HAIRY
quote:Originally posted by Lowrider
Hey Hairball: What good does it do to preach your "Bush Is The World's Biggest Terrorist" crap on this forum? Show some balls and start e-mailing your jive BS to the White House.
Thank you for sharing.
How are you knuckles? Still sore from dragging on the ground? Have you been able to stand upright for more than 10 minutes? Do let us know when you can.
A pretty pathetic dodge of my question, Hairpie, but I think we all know the answer. You're all blow and no go.0 -
No reason Hairy, I just thought you might not eat dead animals. Some left wingers are vegetarian. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Lowrider
A pretty pathetic dodge of my question, Hairpie, but I think we all know the answer. You're all blow and no go.
And we know what you are as well. Now, try to stand upright for awhile and see how long you can manage it. Good boy, good.0 -
quote:Originally posted by williamprynn
No reason Hairy, I just thought you might not eat dead animals. Some left wingers are vegetarian.
I'm considered more a Libertarian than anything else by those who can understand the meaning of political parties. Obviously, you don't. When you come to the US, perhaps you can learn.0 -
HAIRY Stop confusing the Holy Trinity, with the ever-living One God. 0 -
Poor ol' Hairball. A timid little man hiding behind locked doors and drawn curtains, but a big wheel (in his own mind) when he's spouting his bombastic drivel on the internet. [xx(] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Lowrider
Poor ol' Hairball. A timid little man hiding behind locked doors and drawn curtains, but a big wheel (in his own mind) when he's spouting his bombastic drivel on the internet. [xx(]
Wow! Must have soaked your hands in some lotion for a while so the knuckles could bend long enough to type more than one sentence.
Now, go stand upright a bit more--this time in a corner where you are supported. Go, boy, go.0 -
Don't we have a Politics forum? 0 -
It doesn't apply to Hairball. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Lowrider
It doesn't apply to Hairball.
Wow! Your trainer must have had lots of time on his hands today so you could stand up so long.0 -
You're really a witty sumbeech, Hairball. I'll bet you're the life of the party down at the steambaths. [:p] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Lowrider
You're really a witty sumbeech, Hairball. I'll bet you're the life of the party down at the steambaths. [:p]
Steambaths? Is that your thing? Need the steam to hide those bruised knuckles from the humans, eh? Better than your trainer stand you up some more in the corner.
Now, go, boy, go.0 -
Anonymous fliers get stuck to a door in this country. Doors get kicked in and rapes/murders occur in other countries where the victim isn't a practitioner of the right "flavor-of-the-month" of Islam. I'm pretty sure it's better to be a Muslim here than a Christian there. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by idsman75
Anonymous fliers get stuck to a door in this country. Doors get kicked in and rapes/murders occur in other countries where the victim isn't a practitioner of the right "flavor-of-the-month" of Islam. I'm pretty sure it's better to be a Muslim here than a Christian there.
Are you condoning this sort of fearmongering action because it is done by a so-called Christian group? I wouldn't condone it anywhere, Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist, or Jewish.0 -
jews and christians have nothing to fear from muslims, haha 0 -
quote:Originally posted by RunForest
jews and christians have nothing to fear from muslims, haha
Would you please identify those Muslim nations that are invading and occupying Jewish and Christian nations?
Oh yeah, it's the other way around, isn't it?0 -
quote:Originally posted by HAIRY
quote:Originally posted by fastcarsgofast
And why have you not been able to refute my point about terrorists not being recruited
The only truly effective terrorist recuriter I know of is George W. Bush. And you, of course, support him, right?
You need to try looking in the mirror. Didn't you recruit for your terrorist buddy Sami?
BTW, aren't you late for your islamofascist terrorist suicide belt fund raising bake sale?0
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