Zombie Survival Inventory Update
We all know that in the coming Zombie Apocalypse, the best equipped will be the most likely to survive. To wit, I consulted the Zombie Survival Guide (hereinafter abbreviated ZSG) to see what author Max Brooks recommends for survival as compared to my current on-hand inventory.
In the section entitled On The Defense, he counsels to have the following weapons available:
Rifle, 500 rounds
Shotgun, 12 gauge, 250 rounds
Pistol, .45 caliber, 250 rounds
(I'll omit his more esoteric recommendations, such as a katana, silencers for the rifle and pistol, laser sights, etc. that just aren't practical for most folks.)
With this as my baseline, I did an inventory of the ammo I currently have at my disposal. Here's how it breaks down:
7.62X39: 740 rounds at my residence, + AT LEAST 1,000 more at my family's house, maybe as many as 2,000, but likely 1200-1500, for a grand total of 1,800-2,800, give or take.
I have an AK and 2 SKSs at my house, plus another SKS that belongs to my father, plus an SKS that a friend has with a 30 round magazine on it. Altogether, that's 5 rifles that chamber the venerable 7.62X39
7.62X54R: approximately 300-400 at my place and another 300-400 residing with my family. (I count the ammo at my family's house as readily available becaue we live about 3.5 miles apart in rural country and I shouldn't have any difficulty reaching them if need be, even in the case of widespread solanum outbreak.) Me and The Wife each have an M44 Mosin Nagant.
6.5X55: approximately 100 rounds here and 200+ rounds stored at, you guessed it, the family's. Only 1 rifle that fires this round, but it's a Swedish Mauser and accurate as all get out.
7.5X55: app. 50 rounds altogether. Once again, only 1 rifle for this cartridge, but it's robust and accurate, not to mention powerful.
22 LR: 400 or so rounds here and an unknown amount in the possession of my father. I've got a 10/22 and the family has a few 22 rifles and 1 single action 22 pistol that I currently have to shoot at the damn neighbor dogs that crap in my yard.
.45 ACP: 425 rounds here and perhaps an equal amount that my father has. At a realistic estimate, we have 650 rounds of 45 in various loadings. I have a SIG 220 and he has a Colt and a Glock 30.
38 spcl./.357 mag: about 625 rounds here and maybe 100-200 more at the folks' house. Me and The Wife each have a .357 and my mother has a little 38 she keeps by the bed.
.40 S&W: 50 rounds. Just one pistol (a Ruger P94) that fires this round.
12 gauge: a few boxes of OO Buck, maybe 1 box of target/plinking stuff. We also have a 20 guage that we're running low on ammo for.
So all told, I've got the basics that the ZSG recommends covered and then a substantial margin above that. But not substantial enough. I need to stock up on/reload a ton of 40 S&W, ditto the 45, 7.5, 6.5, and even the 38/.357. I'd like to get 500-1000 more 7.62X39s and a few hundred more 7.62X54R, preferably the modern production hunting stuff that's out there. Ultimately, I'd like to have 500 rounds minimum for each rifle with a goal of at least 7000 rounds total when it's all said and done. My biggest deficiency is my lack of shotgun shells. Really need to start stocking up on those, especially the self-defense loads.
However, as a counterweight to my perceived lack of a big enough safety margin, I should mention that my father has a .30/30 a over 100 rounds for it and a .30/06 with about 200 rounds for it loaded up and ready to go. He also has several boxes of 12 gauge and a double barrel to feed them in.
Conclusion: if a zombie outbreak occurred RIGHT NOW, and RIGHT HERE, I would survive, and be able to offer shelter and protection to a few select friends if they could make it to me somehow. Still, it's better to have and not need, right?
In the section entitled On The Defense, he counsels to have the following weapons available:
Rifle, 500 rounds
Shotgun, 12 gauge, 250 rounds
Pistol, .45 caliber, 250 rounds
(I'll omit his more esoteric recommendations, such as a katana, silencers for the rifle and pistol, laser sights, etc. that just aren't practical for most folks.)
With this as my baseline, I did an inventory of the ammo I currently have at my disposal. Here's how it breaks down:
7.62X39: 740 rounds at my residence, + AT LEAST 1,000 more at my family's house, maybe as many as 2,000, but likely 1200-1500, for a grand total of 1,800-2,800, give or take.
I have an AK and 2 SKSs at my house, plus another SKS that belongs to my father, plus an SKS that a friend has with a 30 round magazine on it. Altogether, that's 5 rifles that chamber the venerable 7.62X39
7.62X54R: approximately 300-400 at my place and another 300-400 residing with my family. (I count the ammo at my family's house as readily available becaue we live about 3.5 miles apart in rural country and I shouldn't have any difficulty reaching them if need be, even in the case of widespread solanum outbreak.) Me and The Wife each have an M44 Mosin Nagant.
6.5X55: approximately 100 rounds here and 200+ rounds stored at, you guessed it, the family's. Only 1 rifle that fires this round, but it's a Swedish Mauser and accurate as all get out.
7.5X55: app. 50 rounds altogether. Once again, only 1 rifle for this cartridge, but it's robust and accurate, not to mention powerful.
22 LR: 400 or so rounds here and an unknown amount in the possession of my father. I've got a 10/22 and the family has a few 22 rifles and 1 single action 22 pistol that I currently have to shoot at the damn neighbor dogs that crap in my yard.
.45 ACP: 425 rounds here and perhaps an equal amount that my father has. At a realistic estimate, we have 650 rounds of 45 in various loadings. I have a SIG 220 and he has a Colt and a Glock 30.
38 spcl./.357 mag: about 625 rounds here and maybe 100-200 more at the folks' house. Me and The Wife each have a .357 and my mother has a little 38 she keeps by the bed.
.40 S&W: 50 rounds. Just one pistol (a Ruger P94) that fires this round.
12 gauge: a few boxes of OO Buck, maybe 1 box of target/plinking stuff. We also have a 20 guage that we're running low on ammo for.
So all told, I've got the basics that the ZSG recommends covered and then a substantial margin above that. But not substantial enough. I need to stock up on/reload a ton of 40 S&W, ditto the 45, 7.5, 6.5, and even the 38/.357. I'd like to get 500-1000 more 7.62X39s and a few hundred more 7.62X54R, preferably the modern production hunting stuff that's out there. Ultimately, I'd like to have 500 rounds minimum for each rifle with a goal of at least 7000 rounds total when it's all said and done. My biggest deficiency is my lack of shotgun shells. Really need to start stocking up on those, especially the self-defense loads.
However, as a counterweight to my perceived lack of a big enough safety margin, I should mention that my father has a .30/30 a over 100 rounds for it and a .30/06 with about 200 rounds for it loaded up and ready to go. He also has several boxes of 12 gauge and a double barrel to feed them in.
Conclusion: if a zombie outbreak occurred RIGHT NOW, and RIGHT HERE, I would survive, and be able to offer shelter and protection to a few select friends if they could make it to me somehow. Still, it's better to have and not need, right?
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Can I be your friend ??
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quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
Can I be your friend ??
Doug
Depends. You got anything to bring to the table?0 -
hm. I don't have so many guns but I sure have a lot more ammo... Gotta get some level 3 and 4 and will be all set. 0 -
I KINDA LIKE LF's Spikey Ball Of Death (no ammo needed)
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=827524620 -
There's no such thing as having too much ammo, especially with prices going up every week! 0 -
But do you have enough food and water stored up? Can't eat ammo or zombies.
Also I think you need more 22lr. 400rds isn't going to last you very long if your house is surrounded. And you're shooting from your roof.
Finally might want to stock up on bite proof PVC pipe. Could make a nice light weight suit of armor.0 -
Does the ZSG recommend storing a few AP rounds on the off chance that some zombies may be wearing body armor? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
Does the ZSG recommend storing a few AP rounds on the off chance that some zombies may be wearing body armor?
Your ignorance of zombie extermination would be laughable if it wasn't so dangerous. The ONLY way to terminate a zombie is with a head shot. You have to destroy the brain to stop a zombie from fucntioning. Nothing else counts.0 -
quote:Originally posted by drobs
But do you have enough food and water stored up? Can't eat ammo or zombies.
Also I think you need more 22lr. 400rds isn't going to last you very long if your house is surrounded. And you're shooting from your roof.
Finally might want to stock up on bite proof PVC pipe. Could make a nice light weight suit of armor.
I've thought of that as well. But I never remember to get 22s when I'm at the store. Too busy drooling over the guns.[:p][:p][:p]0 -
quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
The ONLY way to terminate a zombie is with a head shot. You have to destroy the brain to stop a zombie from fucntioning. Nothing else counts.
What if you bite their head and eat their brain?0 -
quote:Originally posted by thesneakyrussian
quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
The ONLY way to terminate a zombie is with a head shot. You have to destroy the brain to stop a zombie from fucntioning. Nothing else counts.
What if you bite their head and eat their brain?
Then YOU will become a zombie because you will be infected with solanum, the virus that causes zombieism. JEESH!!! Am I the only one here who stays up to date on this stuff[?]0 -
quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
Your ignorance of zombie extermination would be laughable if it wasn't so dangerous. The ONLY way to terminate a zombie is with a head shot. You have to destroy the brain to stop a zombie from fucntioning. Nothing else counts.
Kevlar helmets....duh!0 -
quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
quote:Originally posted by thesneakyrussian
quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
The ONLY way to terminate a zombie is with a head shot. You have to destroy the brain to stop a zombie from fucntioning. Nothing else counts.
What if you bite their head and eat their brain?
Then YOU will become a zombie because you will be infected with solanum, the virus that causes zombieism. JEESH!!! Am I the only one here who stays up to date on this stuff[?]
You are the only one, indeed. So on unrelated subject, why don't zombies eat each other? And what if you trained some zombies to be on your side and have a anti-zombie zombie squad?0 -
quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
Your ignorance of zombie extermination would be laughable if it wasn't so dangerous. The ONLY way to terminate a zombie is with a head shot. You have to destroy the brain to stop a zombie from fucntioning. Nothing else counts.
Kevlar helmets....duh!
would they don the helmets before or after becoming a living dead ghoul? the only populations that would have access to equipment like that would be police and military organizations, which represent a small fraction of the population likely to be infected in a zombie epidemic. But, FWIW, any medium or high powered rifle round could easily penetrate a kevlar helmet, AP or not, so I think I'm covered in the event of a siege by a force of hundreds of SWAT zombies.[;)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by thesneakyrussian
quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
quote:Originally posted by thesneakyrussian
quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
The ONLY way to terminate a zombie is with a head shot. You have to destroy the brain to stop a zombie from fucntioning. Nothing else counts.
What if you bite their head and eat their brain?
Then YOU will become a zombie because you will be infected with solanum, the virus that causes zombieism. JEESH!!! Am I the only one here who stays up to date on this stuff[?]
You are the only one, indeed. So on unrelated subject, why don't zombies eat each other? And what if you trained some zombies to be on your side and have a anti-zombie zombie squad?
For further reading and all things zombie, I suggest The Zombie Survival Guide by Max Brooks. It should answer any questions you have.0 -
Why bother having .22? I dont think it has the punch to penetrate the skull and cause enough brain damage to stop them...
But yeah, I got a 9mm pistol, 9mm rifle and am currently in the planning stage of building an AR-15...my plan is to set up a hideout on the upper floor of a building and block off the entrances...figure 3 months of food, water and a few thousand rounds should be enough to hold em off until they die of starvation...can always raid the local Gander Mtn. for whatever ammo I can grab, and then there is the wide range of gun shops where I can grab ARs and larger caliber weapons if necessary...0 -
Well I guess I am doing ok as I could arm at least 2 squads with at least double the ammo count. Sad thing is I still need more. You can never have too much.
Static Zombie killer;
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quote:Originally posted by Ridge
Why bother having .22? I dont think it has the punch to penetrate the skull and cause enough brain damage to stop them...
But yeah, I got a 9mm pistol, 9mm rifle and am currently in the planning stage of building an AR-15...my plan is to set up a hideout on the upper floor of a building and block off the entrances...figure 3 months of food, water and a few thousand rounds should be enough to hold em off until they die of starvation...can always raid the local Gander Mtn. for whatever ammo I can grab, and then there is the wide range of gun shops where I can grab ARs and larger caliber weapons if necessary...
Well the good thing about .22 is lots of cheep training when other ammo may be of limited avilabilty. It is also great for getting food on the table.
As for raiding the local shops you will have to compete with the others that did not prep for zombies ahead of time.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Ridge
Why bother having .22? I dont think it has the punch to penetrate the skull and cause enough brain damage to stop them...
But yeah, I got a 9mm pistol, 9mm rifle and am currently in the planning stage of building an AR-15...my plan is to set up a hideout on the upper floor of a building and block off the entrances...figure 3 months of food, water and a few thousand rounds should be enough to hold em off until they die of starvation...can always raid the local Gander Mtn. for whatever ammo I can grab, and then there is the wide range of gun shops where I can grab ARs and larger caliber weapons if necessary...
Fine plan. But I take issue with your lack of respect for the 22. At any reasonable range, it has more than enough power to penetrate a human skull and destroy a zombie brain.0 -
I got nothing against it...2 of my friends have .22 rifles...I guess I just underestimate it 0 -
Ill take 10 thousand 223s, 5 thousand 308s, 2 thousand 416s another 2 thousand 50bmg. 20 thousand 5.7s a few hundred 460s and at least 2 grenades.
Water and food for six months.0 -
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The ONLY way to terminate a zombie is with a head shot. You have to destroy the brain to stop a zombie from fucntioning. Nothing else counts.
What if some of these zombies were Democrats while they were still living, their brains would have already been destroyed.
This reminds me of the novel I Am Legend (made into a movie called The Last Man On Earth) where the hero is fighting off vampires with the usual methods but stumbles onto one who does not react in fright to a crucifix...It was a Jewish vampire!0 -
quote:Originally posted by kristov
This reminds me of the novel I Am Legend (made into a movie called The Last Man On Earth) where the hero is fighting off vampires with the usual methods but stumbles onto one who does not react in fright to a crucifix...It was a Jewish vampire!
Aren't Jews, by their very nature, already classified as blood-suckers? [;)]0 -
As a jew, I am offended by that! I shall meet you on the field of honor at sunrise! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Ridge
As a jew, I am offended by that! I shall meet you on the field of honor at sunrise!
I didn't think you could come out in the daylight0 -
Ask my parents, Im more of a zombie...Im around 24/7, just not very coherent... 0 -
I have plenty of ammo for all my gun's, food and water. And my house can be easily fortified and defended. And I live way out away from any city or towns.
My ammo supply is so far,
45acp 500.
45Colt 250.
40S&W 574.
9mm 500.
38spl 256.
357mag 556.
7.62x25 1262.
7.62x38 120.
32short 89.
32long 16.
22mag 341.
32auto 258.
30-06 328.
8X56r 220.
5.56 2,840.
7.5x55 60.
7.5x54 40.
8mm mauser 150.
308 84.
30carbine 280.
270 100.
7.62X54r 440.
7.62X39 1,241.
7.7Jap 28.
30-30 259.
12ga 1025.
I think I will be able to ride it out.0 -
I don't think it is zombies we need to worry about. 0 -
What if the Zombie's have the new military hardware that can cook you in your own home?
You need RPG's.0 -
I started thinking about zombies only being killed by head shots. This leads to the idea that the brain is still controling the zombie's body, and probably doing so with tiny electrical impulses. So would a taser work on zombies? 0
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