capitol punishment survey Part II
rcrxs old lady got me to thinking (hope you don't mind[:I]), Should executions be made public for all to see? Might curb the next person that wishes to knock someone off for kicks like gang bangers etc.
Reading about execution is one thing, viewing it is another.
What say you?
Reading about execution is one thing, viewing it is another.
What say you?
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Why not?
Make it public and also cut the time from conviction to hanging all within a short amount of time.0 -
i think when it comes down to it, theyre not thinking, all they see is the good that is going to come from their deed, IE, money, goods, fame. 0 -
We paid for it, we should get to see it... 0 -
I would aprove of it. 0 -
Public, by Guillotine. 0 -
Neither the severity nor public aspect of puishment has been found to be a detterent- but CERTAINTY of punishment- Ah- THAT is! While we are at it, did they not need some folks to clean up the nerve agents out at the storage depot? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by mateomasfeo
We paid for it, we should get to see it...
That's a great point. And yes.0 -
I would watch it. 0 -
...in the town square...the way it used to be. 0 -
I would suggest a capital punishment lottery. Only everytime you missed being picked you get another extra chance the next drawing. Such lucky winners could win a free expense trip to the Florida Everglades to swim with alligators... 0 -
The only thing capitol punishment tells me is that killing people is ok. Just seems rude. 0 -
In public, but stretch them on a rack and then evicerate them alive. That should be a good deterrant. 0 -
The Chinese have it right. Execution pretty much immediately follows conviction. Harvesting their useful parts is ok with me.
Cruel and unusual are subjective terms, open to interpretation.
I don't understand how the condemned have earned the gentlest passage from this world to the next.0 -
Go even ferther and MAKE these teenage gangbangers watch it to let them know what is going to happen to them if they keep up with what they are doing![;)] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by ECC
...in the town square...the way it used to be.
...and televised. Have a channel dedicated to exicution alone..not only played on public tv, but mandatory in all prison cells, and boys home, etc.0 -
Public Hanging,Fireing squad whatever all Public. 0 -
The only problem I see with public executions is that they would lose their shock value after a while, losing all of its preventative value. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by spryor
quote:Originally posted by ECC
...in the town square...the way it used to be.
...and televised. Have a channel dedicated to exicution alone..not only played on public tv, but mandatory in all prison cells, and boys home, etc.
quote:Have a channel dedicated to exicution alone..not only played on public tv, but mandatory in all prison cells, and boys home, etc.
Call it "You play, You pay" Channel
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"The price is Right!"[:D]0 -
EMM this just doesn't sound like you!! I guese the old cliche "It sure as hell will stop him from doing it again" will hold true tho , Tom 0 -
I'm pretty much in favor of capital punishment, but taking the life even of a slimeball is a very profound thing, and I for one don't want it turned into a public circus. I lived in Saudi Arabia for over a decade and never felt the desire to go down to Chop Chop Square after noon prayers on Friday to see a man die. 11b6r has it right: it's the certainty and swiftness of the punishment, neither of which is present in our current criminal "justice" system, that are the real deterents. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by tccox
EMM this just doesn't sound like you!! I guese the old cliche "It sure as hell will stop him from doing it again" will hold true tho , Tom
I didn't say I was against it, only that it might lose its luster after a while.[;)][:D]
For the record, I'm all for it - I just see that one wrinkle in an otherwise palatable alternative to our current revolving door to justice.0 -
I am in ROME, right ??
Doug0 -
I'm against public executions for a couple of reasons.
Death is never as nice and serene as people would like to think. Even under the best of conditions, it's often pretty gruesome. There are plenty of times during executions where things don't go as planned either, and that tends to make it worse.
I have absolutely nothing against the death penalty, and believe it or not, have known 8 different people (on a professional level) that have been executed, and know several more currently on death row. Every one of them deserved to be executed.
They aren't private because the public doesn't want to see them, they are private to keep the process as sanitized as possible. As Clint Eastwood said in Unforgiven, "It's a hell of a thing killing a man. You take away all he's got, and all he's ever gonna have".
Right now the death penalty has the majority of the public supporting it. If they showed executions publicly, even if everything went perfectly, the support would probably not be as strong, and as a result it would be used less often.0 -
quote:Originally posted by spryor
quote:Originally posted by ECC
...in the town square...the way it used to be.
...and televised. Have a channel dedicated to exicution alone..not only played on public tv, but mandatory in all prison cells, and boys home, etc.
That's one that could get play in the Maricopa County jail! [:D]
Allen0 -
No, I don't, as EMM said.
Also, you have to remember, back in the days of public execution, death was an intimate part of most persons' lives. Children died regularly from now preventable diseases, accidents, lower mortality ages, etc., not to mention that prior to the institutionalization of the funerary business, the family prepared the body and laid it out in their own home.
Also, in their agrarian society, they either had to kill, or did not eat. There were no grocery stores at which one could purchase a nicely sealed package of boneless, skinless chicken breasts, or hamburger.
Nowadays, I bet all of us know at least several people in our own age group who have never even seen, let alone touched a dead body.
I don't think the public at large has the stomach to handle viewing a death, regardless of how sanitary.0 -
Lotsa folks on waiting lists for organs...warehouse the miscreants till they are not gonna be viable after the next harvest, and then bill their family for the .22 that kills 'em - that is the China plan, anyway.
Not so sure I like that, but it has lotsa good points. It might provide the supporting society with the only good things that the criminal has ever done.
I, too, wish our system was a whole lot faster from crime to punishment. Maybe limit the appeals.
Let the victim(s) make the public/private choice.
I guess I support Capital Punishment, and whichever is quicker, or costs us less would be fine with me.0 -
quote:Originally posted by dcinffxva
I'm against public executions for a couple of reasons.
Death is never as nice and serene as people would like to think. Even under the best of conditions, it's often pretty gruesome. There are plenty of times during executions where things don't go as planned either, and that tends to make it worse.
I have absolutely nothing against the death penalty, and believe it or not, have known 8 different people (on a professional level) that have been executed, and know several more currently on death row. Every one of them deserved to be executed.
They aren't private because the public doesn't want to see them, they are private to keep the process as sanitized as possible. As Clint Eastwood said in Unforgiven, "It's a hell of a thing killing a man. You take away all he's got, and all he's ever gonna have".
Right now the death penalty has the majority of the public supporting it. If they showed executions publicly, even if everything went perfectly, the support would probably not be as strong, and as a result it would be used less often.
I agree.0 -
quote:Originally posted by git_r_done
Go even ferther and MAKE these teenage gangbangers watch it to let them know what is going to happen to them if they keep up with what they are doing![;)]
By the same rationale, as these thugs witness violence and death in their own streets, and in their homes on a fairly regular basis, shouldn't the death and/or permenent mutilation as deterrent factor kicked in by now?0 -
Two words.
Electric.
Bleachers.0 -
Mixed feeling on being public or not. But I do think we need to be more swift eith the death penalty. Why waste tax dollars keeping this scum a live and wasting the oxegne we need to breath. Although i do like the way texas does it, more the marrier. 0
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