Decisions, Decisions
Having scrimped a few ducats from my meagre stipend, I have amassed the funds requisite to acquire one of these firing-arm devices, but lo, the myriad choices.
First, the Armoury of Springfield's Model of Nineteen Hundred Eleven, caliber forty-five, World War Two edition. A fine pistol.
Second, a Springfield Model of Nineteeen Ought Three sporting rifle conversion with a rather curious aperture sight, used, of course. Quite nice.
Third would be the Remington Master of the Field twenty-two caliber sliding-action rifle, which I quite like.
As I can only afford one of these devices at this juncture, I implore the good dienizens of this Board of the Internet to voice their opinions, perhaps, and help a fellow with his decision.
First, the Armoury of Springfield's Model of Nineteen Hundred Eleven, caliber forty-five, World War Two edition. A fine pistol.
Second, a Springfield Model of Nineteeen Ought Three sporting rifle conversion with a rather curious aperture sight, used, of course. Quite nice.
Third would be the Remington Master of the Field twenty-two caliber sliding-action rifle, which I quite like.
As I can only afford one of these devices at this juncture, I implore the good dienizens of this Board of the Internet to voice their opinions, perhaps, and help a fellow with his decision.
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my cousin just went to kentucky, he picked up a 67 mustang.
he is thinking heavy on a 390.
you can pick up a 351W, or a 302 Boss, Jegs sells the 302 Boss block.
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Boss heads start working around 3500+.
The 390 is an FE engine and is the engine used in the "Bullit" Mustang.
332/352/360/390/406/427/428s are all FE engines and can be installed in a '67 Mustang using all factory parts.
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Stroker 360 Mopar = 426 ci, 4 speed, and 4.11 gears. It's the only way to make a Ford go fast.[:D] 0 -
thats nonsense
the 302 boss, 351c 4v, 390, are great engines
the 428scj was a hemi eater.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
Boss heads start working around 3500+.
The 390 is an FE engine and is the engine used in the "Bullit" Mustang.
332/352/360/390/406/427/428s are all FE engines and can be installed in a '67 Mustang using all factory parts.
Doug
But can they be installed in a 65 mustang Doug?
Mine is a 650 -
if a 302 will fit in there, i vote for that. come on, the 5.0 mustang is pretty quick. Get yourself a tremec t6 transmission, if youve got the cash, get a set of twisted wedge heads, a nice radical cam. Or if youve really got the money, why not a supercharger? 0 -
That car looks pretty clean.Since it sounds like you have a #'s match there I wouldnt go hacking on it,keep it to where you can easily put it back to original.If you want her to be a sleeper you could put a 347 stoker in it without much modding.Nice find.
Oh,like Doug said,if your going to put close to 400 ponies at the tires your gonna need a good bit of frame and drivetrain upgrades or that car will grenade.0 -
I agree with dumping the 289 for a more potent power plant. I rebuilt a 66 LeMans and can tell you from experience not to go with a non-ford motor (I tried chevy).
I'd look to Summit, Jegs or some other engine builder and buy an already built drop-in with 400hp. For that sleeper theme, definately go with nitrous. No better bank for the buck!
Post pics of the project along the way!0 -
The big block FE engines will not fit in your Mustang without MAJOR sheetmetal and chassis modifications.
As far as an already built (crate motor) engine, my experience has shown that these are mostly OK for 50 or 60 year old guys who are not really going to thrash the car, and who don't want to get dirty. Almost without exception, crate motors need to be torn down and blueprinted - also, they need to be internally inspected to make sure that they have the parts in them as advertised. I have seen crate motors with different pistons from SIDE-to-SIDE in them and with non-torqued rod bolts. Also, once you have paid for it the builder won't stand behind it - so, if you tell him that the pistons(for instance) are mis-matched, or that the deck height is different on the right side than the left side - the builder will tell you to piss up a rope.
A 347 is a stroker 289/302 and can't been identified from the outside - nice if you want to claim you have a built 289. It is a very nice way to make power from the small block Ford, and relatively inexpensive.
My most recent project was a built 340 MOPAR, bored to 361. It made about 475 horsepower, and cost around $10,000 to build. It was built with parts mostly acquired by mail order from Summit and Jegs, as noted by slipgate.
If you are seriously going to do this, you should get on two or three of the Ford forums, and learn what you can from them - just don't let their wild flights of fancy influence you to do stuff (or spend money) that you shouldn't.
Best of luck.
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Do everything you can to strengthen the body , and since this is a long term project I'm am sure that you will do what is needed for the car to run right. If you want power the best way to find it is to go with a 302 based motor out of a late fox body car, they were the terror of the streets in the late '80s and into the '90s. Plus it will fit without a bunch of fab work. Just remember, a well balenced car will always be faster amd more enjoyable than a one trick pony. Here's a few links on engine options:
http://www.proformanceunlimited.com/ford.html
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/articles/ford/0611em_ford_302_engine_build_up/
http://www.mustangandfords.com/techarticles/28898_400_hp_302_small_block/index.html
http://www.302w.com/
http://www.mustangengines.com/
http://www.coasthigh.com/
http://www.enginefactory.com/
http://f-p-s.com/engines/index.html
http://www.revoltbuildrise.com/download/catalogs.asp
And if you want to keep the 289 and still go fast:
http://www.procharger.com/
http://www.procharger.com/chevy.shtml0 -
My advice would be to sell it and buy a Chevy. 0 -
Chevrolet's experience with V8 engines = 1955 to date.
Ford's = 1932 to date.
Besides, the Ford small block is a much improved Chevy.
Doug0 -
One word = Cleveland.
The Cleveland Cobra Jet we run in our Mustang cranks 475HP and 500lb ft.0 -
351W stroked out to a 418W with 515 HP. 0 -
either stroke a 302 or 351 and dress the engine up like a 289 0 -
I would sell it and get one of these.[:D] 
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"Besides, the Ford small block is a much improved Chevy."
Oh so thats why thats why most hotrodders build sbc's for there Fords.....
You will find a lot more sbc powered Fords than you will sbf powered chevy's0 -
The answer to that is that Chevys can make more power for each dollar invested. They are cheaper to build.
Doug0 -
quote:"Besides, the Ford small block is a much improved Chevy."
Oh so thats why thats why most hotrodders build sbc's for there Fords.....
You will find a lot more sbc powered Fords than you will sbf powered chevy's quote:The answer to that is that Chevys can make more power for each dollar invested. They are cheaper to build.
The first race car I every built was a '69 Mach 1, back in the early '90s we spent a fortune on that car to get it to run 11's, for the same money on a chevy it would have been in the 9's.
The first car I ever restored was a '66 Mustang hard top with the pony interior. We spent $15,000 restoring a cer that was only worth $5000 when we were done. If it was a Camaro it would have cost a fraction of the money and it would have been woth more in the end.
I started as a Ford man, but since those two all of my other cars have been Chevys.0 -
If you want a "sleeper" & I'm presuming that you mean having a stock looking engine, I'd stay with the basic 289, but make significant changes to its insides. I can be bored and stroked and the heads can be changed, as well as the manifolds. The exhaust can be freed up a bit. The cam can be changed. You could get involved further and change out the pistons, and since the air filter covers the carb, that could be changed to a higher volume model. None of this, excepting the reconfigured exhaust manifold would be readily apparent to the casual observer. In addition, the Mustang was a light car and keeping with a small block will allow you to stiffen up the suspension to something on the order of TransAm(if you're old enough to remember that series) specs. Those cars that George and Parnelli raced had 302s in them and they were hot. 0
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