a question on .380
i got my new gun the other day and took my fiance to the range yesterday to try it out. we got to talking to one of the guys at the shop about a .38 for her. because her hands are small and the only way for her to shoot with accuracy is to cock it first, i suggested that she consider a .380 semiauto as compared to a revolver. she wants her ccw and having to cock the revolver each time just isn't practical should she be in a situation causing her to defend herself. now, i love my new pa-63, but it's a bit stiff for her to pull on the slide, and i'm a big ppk fan too. she has a better time with that one, but (here's the question) is there something you guys know that is comparable in a .380 that would be easier for her to use?
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How about a Makarov in 380 or 9x18 makarov rounds. You could find a Bulgarian, or Russian around that price range. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by aramisvi
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For revolvers, I like the DA/SA .22LR, like the Smith&Wesson 317 LadySmith.
My wife's copy is pretty smooth, and a few more trips to the range, and possibly a little stoning of the action, will make it a winner. She sure will not let me trade it off, and rather likes everything about it, except learning more about how to reload it. So if eight shots isn't enough, I don't know what else would be better. Except a Mini with a 20-round mag.
For a semi-auto, DAO in a proven platform. My AMT is smooth, with about an 11# trigger. A gun which is overpowered to the user is the kind of gun sometimes dropped [or taken] when the report is found to terrify the user more than the intruder. I go with the notion that the mag plus one in the chamber is best, since my wife cannot rack a slide, nor crear a jam. Forget about dropping a mag and reloading it.
Defense will likely occur at inder eight feet; aiming would be the last of her worries.0 -
duck...as a matter of fact, the pa-63 is the gun i just bought for myself. 9x18...love it. 0 -
sperry...my gun has the factory 11lb recoil 9lb trigger springs...she has no problems pulling the trigger, just the slide. but on a revolver, her hangup is that she can't just aim and pull the trigger, she has to cock it first thenaim and shoot.
is there that much of a difference from six shot to semi?0 -
aramisvi... I have a PA-63 as well. It's a nice gun. Has she had a chance to use it yet. I find the trigger pull on the PA-63 to be harder than on my other Makarov's I have. The good thing is you can pick one of these up in the $150-200 range. 0 -
picked mine up for 200. yes she has shot it, but has a difficult time racking the slide. that's why i'm looking for something easier for her. 0 -
I see that you said she can't pull back the slide. A Glock has a much easier slide, but they are not in your price range. 0 -
she hates the look of a glock anyway. "too clunky" 0 -
yes they are "clunky" looking, but they are a joy to shoot. She wants a svelt sexy looking gun then. Does she want black, two-tone, or nickel. 0 -
yes. 0 -
sexy, two tone, nickel, od green, with stainless steel gothic scroll work and happy bunny on the holster.
nahhhhh...just anyhing not clunky looking. glock, springfield, 1911, .... she likes the tactical look too. that's a throw back to her army days.0 -
lmao 0 -
I THINK A PINK BUNNY HOLSTER WOULD GO JUST GREAT WITH HER SHOES, WOULDN'T IT ! 0 -
quote:is there that much of a difference from six shot to semi?
In a word, yes.
The revolver has no safety or slide stop. No decisions or questions. Just hold arm/hand in general direction and pull trigger. For my wife, weight is also an issue. The .22LR is about 12 ounces and fits her hand perfectly. She has done snap-cap exercises with the 'Smith, eight-round piece, and the Ruger [and another Smith], with it's six-round capacity.
She would not, regrettably, know to bump a slide that didn't fully insert a round [I know, it is not supposed to happen, your gun should always function 100%]. I keep her away from semi-autos.
I've never had a revolver fail to function; a bad round is a trigger-pull away from BANG, in a true DAO, to either striking the same center-fire .38 Special or a rim-fire .22LR. [I decided to shed any carry gun that has no second-strike capability. This includes SA Colts, Kahr, and the like]. I never say "Never", however, and would probably buy another PM9 if funds were not an issue. For now, I like without collecting, and enjoy my interests vicariously. For now.
I've fed six or so brands through the 317, and find CCI Mini-Mags the one to use.
I'm not too worried about her being charged by protecting herself; she understands that she'd be in shock after an attack, and to seek immediate help for herself and her assailant, in that order. And to make no specific statements until I arrive. The advice of "What to do" following an attack in-which she would be required to use lethal force to deter or prevent a robbery/attack/break-in [or any forcible felony] has perhaps stuck with her better than how to open and load/unload her revolver.0 -
I saw a Taurus 22lr with a pink grips at the last gun show. Small gun like the 32 caliber Beretta's. In Texas you can test with nothing smaller than 32 caliber, to get your ccw. I have not tried the Beretta yet but it has a tip up barrel latch, so she wouldn't have to pull the slide. Small conceal gun as well.
http://www.ozarkguns.com/Beretta/Pistols/berettatomcat.htm
Maybe you could find one used in your price range.0 -
quote:Originally posted by aramisvi
if knowing her description would help...shes, 5'1" about 135lbs, and her hand may be 6 inches from tip of middle finger to top of wrist and about 3 inches wide through the palm. killer smile and green eyes. does that help?
That information was very helpful, but a photo would be better [:D]0 -
gotta sweet talk her into the photo[:D][:D][:D][:D] 0 -
not me....you guys have to sweet tlak her into posting a photo.[:D][:D][;)][}:)][:o)][:I][^][B)] 0 -
Ok....I'm sure she is reasonable....or at least hope she is if she is looking for a gun to carry [8D]
Lets put it to a vote
Anyone who DOES NOT want a photo, speak now !
The vote will be over in one minute0 -
quote:Originally posted by aramisvi
wow guys....i just asked a question, didn't mean to start rile any tailfeathers.
You stay out of this! [:(!] Nobody asked you to butt into this thread and stick your big fat...oh...ummm...errr...you STARTED this thread, didn't ya?
Nevermind [:D]0 -
spider......[;)]
dc....i hope i get to vote[:p]0 -
Take a look at Kahr pistols. They're small, very reliable, easily concealed, and have a smooth, soft, but looong trigger pull. No safety levers to worry about in a pinch, just that long trigger pull. Available in all steel, or plastic and steel, and in 9mm or .40 S&W. Recoil of the .40 might be a bit much for a small woman, but the 9mm wouldn't be much more than a 38 Spl. snubby.
Xzec.0 -
Mainiac remember her price range is $250>, The Kahrs are above this. The Kahr pistols are great guns, as I have a PM9, and MK9 elite. 0 -
yeah...thanks ducky....
the $250 cap is gonna make it a little tough to find something that would suit her.0 -
You might also look into a Bersa 380 Thunder, they are in your price range. Search the auction side also Academy Sports has them for $218. Though I have no personal experience in actually firing one I've read a lot of good things about them.
http://www.alpharubicon.com/leo/bersathunder380.htm
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