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  • whiteclouder
    quote:Originally posted by DancesWithSheep
    quote:Originally posted by whiteclouder
    I canceled the magazine, dumped the whole mess in the garbage and haven't read a gun mag since.

    Sound wisdom, pilgrim. I did the same about 25 years ago when Chuck Taylor got outed for supposedly "field testing" the then-new Bren 10 without a magazine.

    About 1980 a bunch of cretins from Ventura, CA started a short-lived rag called "Pistolero". Writing was atrocious and overall quality abominable, but the "real life" gun tests were hilarious. I remember a 9mm vs 45ACP test shooting pigs at point blank range in a pen; an Ithaca Mag10 Roadblocker test shooting a 305cc Honda across a parking lot; and a survivalist article called "Freeze-dried Foods vs Cannibalism: A Second Look". I still have all the issues. Ah, the good old days.


    Subscribed to a mag call "Gun Facts" for as long as it lasted (about 15 months, 1969/70). Way, way too honest for the SAMMI crowd, it went under. Great while it lasted.

    Clouder..
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  • Sav99
    My mother bought me a subscription to G&A every year for Christmas from the age of seven to about 13.
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  • MosinNagantDisciple
    I subscribed to G&A for a year back in 2005. Most every issue was about some new 1911 knockoff, or some other automatic pistol; most every article read like an advertisement.

    I did not renew my subscription. Like others have said, I get MUCH better info from the few gun forums that I frequent.
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  • givette
    I remember Jeff Cooper as being full of himself. His copy wasn't a statement. It was a pronouncement. Joe
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  • He Dog
    I never admired Cooper nearly as much as Cooper did, and in the later years found him exactly as DWS describes.

    Only handgun rag I get is American Handgunner, and likely one year will be enough. There just is not anything new to say. I do like John Barsness wittings, but he has now moved into editing.

    Mostly I don't read "me and Joe" stories anyway. Still get Rifle, but that is mostly habit.
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  • bigtire
    quote:Originally posted by DancesWithSheep
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    Jeff Cooper was no Elmer Keith. Or Jack O'Conner. Or even Skeeter Skelton. To me Jeff Cooper was a pretentious, doddering, drooling old fool, from his too-tight and too-short gabardine cavalry twills to his embarrassingly gratuitous Steyr Scout bain fart. His incessant use of the Imperial "we" (e.g., "We understand from a friend back of beyond that...", "We are of the knowledge that God prophesied the coming of 1911 Government in Ecclesiastes 3,...") and his condescension towards anything and everything not in keeping with his pre-New Deal philosophy earns from me nothing but raspberries and guffaws.



    Now that's funny right there!

    I feel the same way about Cooper.[:D]

    I like the way that Gun List/Gun Digest has evolved since loosing so much of it's business to technology. They have started printing some really useful articles on ameture gunsmithing and surplus arms and ammo.
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  • 41 nut
    I dropped G & A a couple years ago because I didn't like the new format nor the new writters. Also they reduced the print size and I have a hard time seeing it with these old tired eyes. They've seen too much now.
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  • buschmaster
    Pistolero Magazine. [:D] I like that idea.

    quote:Years later much more valid tests were conducted on animals far closer to humans in size and survivabiltiy i.e. barnyard pigs. "Pistolero Magazine" went to Mexico to circumvent any animal cruelty laws and shot barn yard pigs in vital areas to kill them not wound them as in the Tompson tests.

    So what were the results. The pigs died just as fast when shot with the 9mm as opposed to being shot with the .45.

    AS a matter of fact "Pistolero Magazine" observed that the pigs squealed louder and jumped higher when hit by the 9MM as compared to being hit with the slower moving .45.here's some .pdf's

    http://atomiclabrat.com/Handgun tests Magazine.htm
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  • Txs
    Most all of them are nothing more than a collection of product advertisements packaged as a magazine, Guns & BS included.

    They oughta be handing them out free.
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  • KX500
    Yes, I still subscribe - largely because I can get it for less than $10/year and it is still mildly amusing. Yes, most of the articles are mostly advertisements, but I know that going in. Cooper wasn't my favorite (respected his convictions though). Am quite sick of all the tests on guns costing $1,000 and up - seems like they assume everybody has a dozen guns in that class. I do like to read what Bodington writes.
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  • trc313
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  • He Dog
    Clouder, while I do believe you made a very astute observation, I think it prudent to stay as far away from this one as possible.
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  • whiteclouder
    quote:Originally posted by He Dog
    Clouder, while I do believe you made a very astute observation, I think it prudent to stay as far away from this one as possible.


    I intend to.[:D]

    Clouder..
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  • DancesWithSheep
    quote:Originally posted by buschmaster
    Pistolero Magazine. [:D] I like that idea.

    quote:Years later much more valid tests were conducted on animals far closer to humans in size and survivabiltiy i.e. barnyard pigs. "Pistolero Magazine" went to Mexico to circumvent any animal cruelty laws and shot barn yard pigs in vital areas to kill them not wound them as in the Tompson tests.

    So what were the results. The pigs died just as fast when shot with the 9mm as opposed to being shot with the .45.

    AS a matter of fact "Pistolero Magazine" observed that the pigs squealed louder and jumped higher when hit by the 9MM as compared to being hit with the slower moving .45.here's some .pdf's

    http://atomiclabrat.com/Handgun tests Magazine.htm

    WOW! Thanks, buschmaster. Now that's a trip down memory lane!
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  • lfi guy
    True enough- nothing new. Shotgun News is better. I like the Kokalis articles. Ditto for the Thomas ones in Blue Press.

    The main gun mags just regurgitate the same stuff. [xx(]
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  • Dean Cascio
    Small Arms Review is a POS! Its published by the same bonehead who published "Machine Gun News" back in the 80's. They took my renewal and then went bankrupt and refused to give me my money back![:(!]
    Dean
    quote:Originally posted by buschmaster
    never read G&A much. I think you'd like SOF or Small Arms Review.
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  • MVP
    quote:So what were the results. The pigs died just as fast when shot with the 9mm as opposed to being shot with the .45.

    AS a matter of fact "Pistolero Magazine" observed that the pigs squealed louder and jumped higher when hit by the 9MM as compared to being hit with the slower moving .45.
    There it is!
    Thats the answer to ongoing debate of 9mm vs 45acp[:o)]
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