Guns & Ammo Magazine
They called me about renewing/extending my subscription. I declined. Nothing against the magazine, I told the lady, but Col. Cooper died.
If they would re-instate Cooper's column on the back page, with his writings starting in from the 1950s or so, they would have material for a long time, and I would subscribe.
They did it that way with Elmer Keith.
If they would re-instate Cooper's column on the back page, with his writings starting in from the 1950s or so, they would have material for a long time, and I would subscribe.
They did it that way with Elmer Keith.
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I still get G&A but will likely let it lapse. I used to get about 10 magazines but I have let them go over the past couple years. They just aren't interesting like they were back in the 1960s and 1970s when writers like Cooper, and Keith, and Skelton and Askins were working. Now the "articles" are nothing more than advertisements for current products. No more stories like we got from Skelton and Keith that were entertaining but didn't sell products.
Plus, after nearly 40 years of reading about guns, shooting guns, working on guns etc I don't learn anything new from the periodicals. They have gotten smaller and have much less info. It takes me about 10 minutes to read one and it's not fun and I don't learn anything. What's the point?0 -
quote:Plus, after nearly 40 years of reading about guns, shooting guns, working on guns etc I don't learn anything new from the periodicals. They have gotten smaller and have much less info. It takes me about 10 minutes to read one and it's not fun and I don't learn anything. What's the point?
Gee Sax, with all that knowledge you could be the next Elmer Keith!!! Send them a resume!!![;)][:D]0 -
quote:Originally posted by SaxonPig
They just aren't interesting .....Plus, after nearly 40 years of reading about guns, shooting guns, working on guns etc I don't learn anything new from the periodicals. They have gotten smaller and have much less info. It takes me about 10 minutes to read one and it's not fun and I don't learn anything. What's the point?......
I started in the 80's and feel the same way. I just renewed. G&A just fired their editor and the new guy will be on board for the Sep issue.If things don't improve I'll let them go[V].
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quote:Originally posted by SaxonPig
I still get G&A but will likely let it lapse. I used to get about 10 magazines but I have let them go over the past couple years. They just aren't interesting like they were back in the 1960s and 1970s when writers like Cooper, and Keith, and Skelton and Askins were working. Now the "articles" are nothing more than advertisements for current products. No more stories like we got from Skelton and Keith that were entertaining but didn't sell products.
Plus, after nearly 40 years of reading about guns, shooting guns, working on guns etc I don't learn anything new from the periodicals. They have gotten smaller and have much less info. It takes me about 10 minutes to read one and it's not fun and I don't learn anything. What's the point?
+1. I'm no gun expert. Just not that interested in reading 2 page sales pitches for $1k. guns.
But I loved G&A back in the 70's & 80's. Garry James was my fav.0 -
The wife and I are now sipping Dave Ramsey's Kool-aid, so we're letting a lot of subscriptions go. G&A and Gun tests will be hard to give up. Maxim has turned into crap the last two years. With this new-fangled World-Wide Intranet thingy, though, so many of the articles can be found on-line. And if I want to drool over pictures of naughty little guns wearing nothing more than a thin film of oil, there's always GunBroker.com. 0 -
I have to agree that reading the comments in GB is much more informative that any magazine on these topics in print. 0 -
Quit all the gun rags around 6 or 7 years ago. Now I flip through them at Wal-Mart, while the wifey & kid are shopping.
I really got sick of Assaad theBoob.
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quote:Originally posted by nunn
They called me about renewing/extending my subscription. I declined. Nothing against the magazine, I told the lady, but Col. Cooper died.
If they would re-instate Cooper's column on the back page, with his writings starting in from the 1950s or so, they would have material for a long time, and I would subscribe.
They did it that way with Elmer Keith.
Jeff Cooper was no Elmer Keith. Or Jack O'Conner. Or even Skeeter Skelton. To me Jeff Cooper was a pretentious, doddering, drooling old fool, from his too-tight and too-short gabardine cavalry twills to his embarrassingly gratuitous Steyr Scout bain fart. His incessant use of the Imperial "we" (e.g., "We understand from a friend back of beyond that...", "We are of the knowledge that God prophesied the coming of 1911 Government in Ecclesiastes 3,...") and his condescension towards anything and everything not in keeping with his pre-New Deal philosophy earns from me nothing but raspberries and guffaws.0 -
I discovered Col. Cooper rather late in life.
I found his use of the Royal "WE" to be overblown, as I did most of his sentence structure. But, being a relative tyro in the world of guns and shooting, I recognized that he had more experience and expertise than I had.
Much like I defer to DWS in matters of Politics and Religion. I figure somebody that old must have enough experience and education to justify his contempt for us unwashed masses.0 -
I too have been disapointed with the change in G&A. Mag has shrunk to the point that you can buzz through it very quickly. Looks like they have fallen on hard times. I still subscribe but have them on my list to dump!
I like the content of combat handgus and guns mags the best. The NRA mag has increased in size to the point that it is a pretty good read. American Rifleman, is the NRA mag that I currently receive, I know they offer 2 or 3 other mags as well.
All good bathroom reading material![:)]0 -
FYI: Anyone can contribute (and get paid for) an article to G&A or most of the other gun rags. There are guidelines printed in the rags.
Most of these so called "experts" started out just like you. Gun enthusiest that gave it a shot. The more often you get published, the better you chances. But since the bulk of most articles these days seem to focus on the newest (expensive) guns, don't hold your breath waiting for your article on your old Yugo Mauser to make the cut. They print some of these type articles. But IMO mainly for filler.
A bunch of us ove on the Gunboards.com Arisaks forum were really PO'd a few years back when one dork had an article (in G&A as I recall) on Arisaka's that was litterally FULL of wrong info.0 -
never read G&A much. I think you'd like SOF or Small Arms Review. 0 -
I gave up on G&A a couple of years after Bob Milek died-
I didnt relise it at the time but he was one of the main reasons I had a subscription.0 -
I still have my subscription. I still like to read about new products. Then again I wasn't around in the 70s and 80s so I have no comment on that. 0 -
I wish Larry would let some of these go.....maybe I can buy some of the old mags from you guys so he can actually READ something and not scan the pages asking me if I have seen this and that. Its like the manufacturers have put a bug in my sweet pie's ear trying to get me to stock something!!!! Its not working. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by jptatum
I have to agree that reading the comments in GB is much more informative that any magazine on these topics in print.
Plus you can get info on YOUR topic of interest, not just theirs.0 -
quote:Originally posted by frankcastle13
I still have my subscription. I still like to read about new products. Then again I wasn't around in the 70s and 80s so I have no comment on that.
I dont have subscriptions to any gun mags. but when i do buy them or pick up a small little free one at the gun store, i like reading about the new stuff.0 -
I still get a few magazines in the mail even though I havn't looked at them in about 8 years.
LOL I don't really know why I still get them and never turn the cover.0 -
I'd subscribe if they'd just do an article or two on the topics that scream for coverage: "9 MM vs .45 - The Real Truth!", or "Greatest Cartridge of All Time - the .30-06?" Real hard-hitting stuff like that.
Between the six times yearly re-hash of tired old topics and the scared spitless of a lawsuit attitude that surrounds their reviews of really crappy products - "The first 25 rounds produced six stovepipes and nine failure to feeds but we feel sure that, with a little breaking in, these problems will disappear." they've lost the ability to sustain readership.0 -
I renewed mine for 2 more years around January. Still have'nt got any of the new copies.Lady called around March wanting to know if I wanted to renew.I told her that I was glad she called and informed her that I had'nt been getting them. She told me that they had three publishing companies doing their subscriptions.She looked up which one had renewed mine and told me to call them.I tried to call them only to get the run around[:(!]They told me that mine had been renewed for 2 issues[?]Has anyone seen where you can renew for 2 issues?
It would be nice if someone would forward this thread to the editor of Guns and Ammo[B)]0 -
i like the way every gun they review is their favorite 0 -
I subscribed to G&A for thirty years. Then one day, as I sat staring a three large boxes full of them, wondering if I wanted to move them one more time, I decided to sort through them and save the magazines that had Luger articles. To my surprise, I found sixty-three, and within that bunch, twenty-five had the same articles, with minor embelishments, published about five years apart. How many other articles were recycled? I canceled the magazine, dumped the whole mess in the garbage and haven't read a gun mag since.
Clouder..0 -
quote:Originally posted by whiteclouder
I canceled the magazine, dumped the whole mess in the garbage and haven't read a gun mag since.
Sound wisdom, pilgrim. I did the same about 25 years ago when Chuck Taylor got outed for supposedly "field testing" the then-new Bren 10 without a magazine.
About 1980 a bunch of cretins from Ventura, CA started a short-lived rag called "Pistolero". Writing was atrocious and overall quality abominable, but the "real life" gun tests were hilarious. I remember a 9mm vs 45ACP test shooting pigs at point blank range in a pen; an Ithaca Mag10 Roadblocker test shooting a 305cc Honda across a parking lot; and a survivalist article called "Freeze-dried Foods vs Cannibalism: A Second Look". I still have all the issues. Ah, the good old days.0 -
I would probably subscribe to any gun mag that would publish DWS stories on the last page each month/
DWS has the funniest writing style since I got bored with the Pat Mcmanus stories.0 -
quote:Originally posted by buschmaster
never read G&A much. I think you'd like SOF or Small Arms Review.
SAR? Hard Core. Above my comprehension.0 -
quote:Originally posted by MVP
I would probably subscribe to any gun mag that would publish DWS stories on the last page each month/
DWS has the funniest writing style since I got bored with the Pat Mcmanus stories.
His writing style is like no other. He is very moody but Matty says the new medication should help otherwise he is going to move out. Matty has even purchased a new house to show DWS how serious he is. Don0 -
"Freeze-dried Foods vs Cannibalism: A Second Look"??????
I could see Zulu writing a similar essay for his college class.0 -
I dropped my subscription years ago. A friend recently gifted me with a new subscription. I have been reading G&A again for about a year. It is still moderately interesting, but I certainly don't wait by the mailbox to get it.
As for Col. Cooper, I found his musings to be entertaining and his tales moderately interesting. I wish he were still alive and producing a monthly column.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
I could see Zulu writing a similar essay for his college class.
I'm proud of Zulu. There are so few Phrenology majors left.0 -
quote:Originally posted by DancesWithSheep
quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
I could see Zulu writing a similar essay for his college class.
I'm proud of Zulu. There are so few Phrenology majors left.
Hes just a corporal. Don0
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