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BOYCOTT WAL-MART!!!
Does K-Mart Ring A Bell??
"Wal-Mart has decided NOT TO sell any firearms to those that have been declined at the point of purchase, by the FBI, ignoring the 3 day "must give" gun law in place now. I know this so called "instant check" is bogus, because I hold a concealed carry permit, and I was mistakenly denied a gun purchase by the un-informed gun shop owner who did not need to run a check on me anyway." Here's the national Wal-Mart story:
By the commies at Los Angeles Times
Eric Lichtblau
Wal-Mart goes beyond federal requirements:
Wal-Mart, the United States' biggest seller of guns, has quietly ordered it's stores to adopt a tougher policy on gun sales that goes beyond the requirements of the federal government.
Wal-Mart executives, in an internal memorandum obtained by the Los Angels Times, told store managers five weeks ago to stop selling firearms in cases in which authorities were not able to determine weather the wood-be buyers should be banned from owning a weapon.
Under federal law, if authorities cannot complete a criminal background check on a gun buyer within three business days, retailers are allowed to hand over the weapon even though the buyers' status is not clear. Nine states have more stringent standards.
The company "decided to take the extra step toward keeping guns out of the hands of individuals who possibly ought not to have them," according to the memo.
The move is a major break for a company that has sometimes been criticized for lax gun' sale policies. The Arkansas based retailers prominence in the national market place could put pressure on other gun sellers to follow suit in voluntarily withholding firearms from buyers if it is not clear weather they are allowed to own one, observers said.
Wal-Mart decision drew immediate fire from the NRA and other gun rights groups, which question the legality of the unannounced policy shift and hinted that they might seek to organize a boycott against the retailing giant.
In the vast majority of the more than eight million gun checks a year, authorities determine the buyers status in a matter of minutes or hours, confirming weather the would-be buyer has a felony record, has been institutionalized or is otherwise banned from owning a gun.
Once no disqualification are found, the gun dealer is allowed to complete the sale.
But in about five percent of sales the buyers legal status cannot be immediately determined - often because of similar names, lost paper work or poor record-keeping.
These cases have proven vexing to law enforcement because studies show that sales that proceed by default - when the three day limit runs out - produce a disproportionately high number of cases in which a customer was able to buy a gun even though he was banned from doing so.
Americans for Gun Safety, a moderate gun control group in Washington DC, found in a recent study that in a two and a half year period, 10,000 felons and others banned from owning a gun were able to purchase weapons because their background checks could not be completed in 3 days.
LETTER PROMPTED RESEARCH...
A similar congressional study last month confirmed wide spread cracks in the system.
In an April letter, Americans for Gun Safety appealed to Wal-Mart and other large retailers that sell firearms - including Big 5, Gart Sports, Sports Authority and K-Mart - to adopt a "don't know, don't sell" policy that would go beyond federal law.
Wal-Mart, which describes itself as "the local store of choice" for guns and sporting goods, did not respond to Americans for Gun Safety directly.
But internally, the letter prompted Wal-Mart executives to research the issue, and they were troubled to find nation wide data showing that many banned gun sales were executed because of the three day defaults, said Wal-Mart spokes woman Jessica Eldred.
As a result, the company decided "after much consideration" to change it's policy effective May 29 in it's 2,700 stores, nearly all of which sell guns, according to it's internal memo to store managers.
The memo lays out the policy unequivocally; if a store receives a "delayed" response from federal or state authorities who conduct the background checks on potential buyers, "do NOT transfer the firearms until you receive a proceed. To restate, you MUST have a 'proceed' (no matter how long it takes) before any firearm is transferred to a customer," the memo said.
OBSERVERS IMPRESSED...
While gun control groups have long supported extending the 3 day period for background checks, the issue is seen as so politically suicidal in Washington that even liberals have shied away from pushing it.
In deed, the current move is in the opposite direction, as attorney general John Ashcroft - a strong backer of gun rights - has sought to complete the background checks more quickly and destroy the records within 24 hours.
As a result, many observers were impressed by the Wal-Mart decision to move beyond federal law, at the suggestion of a gun control group, no less.
"This is very positive step for an organization as large as Wal-Mart to take," said retired FBI official James DeSarno, who over saw the implementation of the background check system at the bureau. The tough to check cases that take longer than 3 days, he said, "are where you're going to find the problems."
Matt Bennett, a spokesman for Americans for Gun Safety, said, "we're just delighted by how rapidly a huge corporation was able to pivot and change it's policy on such an important issue. This is a major step, and if Wal-Mart is doing it, we hope others will follow their lead."
Wal-Mart is believed to make hundreds of millions of dollars each year from it's gun sales.
THE END- I had to hand type this crap, so I hope you appreciate it. MWS-
I SAY WE DON'T NEED WALRUS-MART!
We can do just fine without them. As a matter of fact, I'm going to be standing out in the front of our local Walrus-Mart boycotting with signs and with all my friends, even my 72 year old mother in-law will be there!
Who knows? We might get some local news coverage on what we're doing. It might even put GUNEDTm on the map. -MWS
Screw Walrus-Mart, Shop At Your Local Gun Shop...
Just curious, who made this rocket science decision to say, "hay fred, our guns sales are making us 400 million dollars a year. I know, why don't we put restrictions on um' to make it more difficult for the customer to buy um'". http://guned.com/pages/walmart.html
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
Does K-Mart Ring A Bell??
"Wal-Mart has decided NOT TO sell any firearms to those that have been declined at the point of purchase, by the FBI, ignoring the 3 day "must give" gun law in place now. I know this so called "instant check" is bogus, because I hold a concealed carry permit, and I was mistakenly denied a gun purchase by the un-informed gun shop owner who did not need to run a check on me anyway." Here's the national Wal-Mart story:
By the commies at Los Angeles Times
Eric Lichtblau
Wal-Mart goes beyond federal requirements:
Wal-Mart, the United States' biggest seller of guns, has quietly ordered it's stores to adopt a tougher policy on gun sales that goes beyond the requirements of the federal government.
Wal-Mart executives, in an internal memorandum obtained by the Los Angels Times, told store managers five weeks ago to stop selling firearms in cases in which authorities were not able to determine weather the wood-be buyers should be banned from owning a weapon.
Under federal law, if authorities cannot complete a criminal background check on a gun buyer within three business days, retailers are allowed to hand over the weapon even though the buyers' status is not clear. Nine states have more stringent standards.
The company "decided to take the extra step toward keeping guns out of the hands of individuals who possibly ought not to have them," according to the memo.
The move is a major break for a company that has sometimes been criticized for lax gun' sale policies. The Arkansas based retailers prominence in the national market place could put pressure on other gun sellers to follow suit in voluntarily withholding firearms from buyers if it is not clear weather they are allowed to own one, observers said.
Wal-Mart decision drew immediate fire from the NRA and other gun rights groups, which question the legality of the unannounced policy shift and hinted that they might seek to organize a boycott against the retailing giant.
In the vast majority of the more than eight million gun checks a year, authorities determine the buyers status in a matter of minutes or hours, confirming weather the would-be buyer has a felony record, has been institutionalized or is otherwise banned from owning a gun.
Once no disqualification are found, the gun dealer is allowed to complete the sale.
But in about five percent of sales the buyers legal status cannot be immediately determined - often because of similar names, lost paper work or poor record-keeping.
These cases have proven vexing to law enforcement because studies show that sales that proceed by default - when the three day limit runs out - produce a disproportionately high number of cases in which a customer was able to buy a gun even though he was banned from doing so.
Americans for Gun Safety, a moderate gun control group in Washington DC, found in a recent study that in a two and a half year period, 10,000 felons and others banned from owning a gun were able to purchase weapons because their background checks could not be completed in 3 days.
LETTER PROMPTED RESEARCH...
A similar congressional study last month confirmed wide spread cracks in the system.
In an April letter, Americans for Gun Safety appealed to Wal-Mart and other large retailers that sell firearms - including Big 5, Gart Sports, Sports Authority and K-Mart - to adopt a "don't know, don't sell" policy that would go beyond federal law.
Wal-Mart, which describes itself as "the local store of choice" for guns and sporting goods, did not respond to Americans for Gun Safety directly.
But internally, the letter prompted Wal-Mart executives to research the issue, and they were troubled to find nation wide data showing that many banned gun sales were executed because of the three day defaults, said Wal-Mart spokes woman Jessica Eldred.
As a result, the company decided "after much consideration" to change it's policy effective May 29 in it's 2,700 stores, nearly all of which sell guns, according to it's internal memo to store managers.
The memo lays out the policy unequivocally; if a store receives a "delayed" response from federal or state authorities who conduct the background checks on potential buyers, "do NOT transfer the firearms until you receive a proceed. To restate, you MUST have a 'proceed' (no matter how long it takes) before any firearm is transferred to a customer," the memo said.
OBSERVERS IMPRESSED...
While gun control groups have long supported extending the 3 day period for background checks, the issue is seen as so politically suicidal in Washington that even liberals have shied away from pushing it.
In deed, the current move is in the opposite direction, as attorney general John Ashcroft - a strong backer of gun rights - has sought to complete the background checks more quickly and destroy the records within 24 hours.
As a result, many observers were impressed by the Wal-Mart decision to move beyond federal law, at the suggestion of a gun control group, no less.
"This is very positive step for an organization as large as Wal-Mart to take," said retired FBI official James DeSarno, who over saw the implementation of the background check system at the bureau. The tough to check cases that take longer than 3 days, he said, "are where you're going to find the problems."
Matt Bennett, a spokesman for Americans for Gun Safety, said, "we're just delighted by how rapidly a huge corporation was able to pivot and change it's policy on such an important issue. This is a major step, and if Wal-Mart is doing it, we hope others will follow their lead."
Wal-Mart is believed to make hundreds of millions of dollars each year from it's gun sales.
THE END- I had to hand type this crap, so I hope you appreciate it. MWS-
I SAY WE DON'T NEED WALRUS-MART!
We can do just fine without them. As a matter of fact, I'm going to be standing out in the front of our local Walrus-Mart boycotting with signs and with all my friends, even my 72 year old mother in-law will be there!
Who knows? We might get some local news coverage on what we're doing. It might even put GUNEDTm on the map. -MWS
Screw Walrus-Mart, Shop At Your Local Gun Shop...
Just curious, who made this rocket science decision to say, "hay fred, our guns sales are making us 400 million dollars a year. I know, why don't we put restrictions on um' to make it more difficult for the customer to buy um'". http://guned.com/pages/walmart.html
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
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http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=237759
80+ million Americans cannot be wrong. Spend no money there until they back down.0 -
80+ million Americans have been wrong before. Why can't they be wrong this time? By the way, what are you talking about? 0 -
Damn, I never expected to be explaining such a simple message to you. Did you open the thread?
AS I see it, the liberals can only rescind the 2nd Amendment in little pieces. I figure that most gun owners probably shop at Walmart. Most gun owners means at least 80 million people. Take that economic base away from them and, I hope, they will rethink their rationale, scoring largely in favor of gun owners.
Or maybe it is my controversial viewpoints you hate more than you love Walmart?0 -
quote:Originally posted by dano
Ain't nuthin wrong with Wal-Mart.
I save all kinds of money by shopping there.....[^]
Yeah, nothing bad w/ ebay or paypal either, right?
Know what a Fudd is? Know what a Zumbo is?0 -
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I was pricing tires for my pickup. Naturally wallyworld had the best price but I'm not all that fond of their service department.
Big O tires had an announcement about a Friends of the NRA dinner on their front door. They got my business even though it cost a little mroe out of pocket.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Henry0Reilly
I was pricing tires for my pickup. Naturally wallyworld had the best price but I'm not all that fond of their service department.
Big O tires had an announcement about a Friends of the NRA dinner on their front door. They got my business even though it cost a little mroe out of pocket.
That's what it takes, Henry. Wally world drew the line. Will you walk over it or not? Bottom line.
IMO, walk over it and you are a Fudd. If you have to ask, you are a Fudd. If you don't know what a Fudd is and call yourself a gun owner, you are a Fudd.
Shop at wally world, punk. Not directed at you, H.O.0 -
Well, well, well, the devil must be makin' homemade ice cream, because, dare I say it, "I AGREE WITH BLCKHRN!!"
The gun issue aside, its about Wal-Mart destroying downtown mom and pop America. I quit shopping there a coupla yrs. ago. Am sick and tired of made in China crap!! People keep buying it and where are their kids going to work????
Check out this site........
http://www.stopworkerabuse.org/0 -
When younger in life and just scraping by, I went where the prices were best. Many times, doing this, kept my kids in clothes and diapers. Blckhrn, you can shove the childish names where the sun don't shine. If you can afford to go elsewhere, that is fine. Don't spout names at folks that my have to go to walmart by happen-stance. 0 -
I just bought a new refrigerator. Where? Local mom & pop appliance store. Would it have been cheaper at Sam's, or Home Depot, or Lowe's? Maybe, but not really. They sell bargain basement mobile home appliances. And even if they didn't, I would rather spend $1G with the OWNER of a small business than $600 that goes somewhere else. Besides, the man services what he sells. 0 -
I don't live to far away from a town which just got a Wal-Mart. Before the Wal-Mart opened there was NO place to buy guns, clothes, or electronics within more than 20 miles.
Wal-Mart only succeeds upon the failures of local business. If local business was taking care of the population Wal-Mart would not exist.
Long Live Wal-Mart!!!!!!!!0 -
quote:Originally posted by earlwellman
When younger in life and just scraping by, I went where the prices were best. Many times, doing this, kept my kids in clothes and diapers. Blckhrn, you can shove the childish names where the sun don't shine. If you can afford to go elsewhere, that is fine. Don't spout names at folks that my have to go to walmart by happen-stance.
I called no one anything. I defined the term Fudd, and if the shoe fits, then you obviously must wear it. If you lack the insight to know or the gumption to learn what a "Fudd" is you should, at least, have the character to not adulterate its intended meaning with your own pathetic and erroneous interpretations of its perceived meanings.
Earl, as for where the sun does and does not shine, you must be the expert. I sincerely wish you enlightenment.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Blckhrn
quote:Originally posted by earlwellman
When younger in life and just scraping by, I went where the prices were best. Many times, doing this, kept my kids in clothes and diapers. Blckhrn, you can shove the childish names where the sun don't shine. If you can afford to go elsewhere, that is fine. Don't spout names at folks that my have to go to walmart by happen-stance.
I called no one anything. I defined the term Fudd, and if the shoe fits, then you obviously must wear it. If you lack the insight to know or the gumption to learn what a "Fudd" is you should, at least, have the character to not adulterate its intended meaning with your own pathetic and erroneous interpretations of its perceived meanings.
Earl, as for where the sun does and does not shine, you must be the expert. I sincerely wish you enlightenment.
Yes you did:Well, thanks for presenting the incredibly and patently obvious. Leave it to some marginally gifted moron to adulterate a thread into meaningless oblivion. It is them against you, dumbass. Just because you disagree with someone personally does not make someone who would undermine our 2nd Amendment rights wrong. Don't bore me any more.
This was your reply to HobbyGuy.0 -
quote:Originally posted by dano
If you don't support and/or shop at Wal-Mart, you are obviously a COMMIE. [^]
A red pinko commie bastich!0 -
quote:Originally posted by Blckhrn
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=237759
80+ million Americans cannot be wrong. Spend no money there until they back down.
quote:Originally posted by Blckhrn
Damn, I never expected to be explaining such a simple message to you. Did you open the thread?
AS I see it, the liberals can only rescind the 2nd Amendment in little pieces. I figure that most gun owners probably shop at Walmart. Most gun owners means at least 80 million people. Take that economic base away from them and, I hope, they will rethink their rationale, scoring largely in favor of gun owners.
Or maybe it is my controversial viewpoints you hate more than you love Walmart?
I think you said something here, but I'll be damned if I can figure out what it is.
What is it you want WAL-MART to back down from? Selling guns? Not selling guns? Exactly how is WAL-MART rescinding the Second Amendment?
I haven't seen any of your viewpoints coherent enough to be controversial.
I hope you're drunk, because I'd hate to think you communicate like this when you're sober.0 -
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If I didn't shop at WalMart, I would be unable to eat or drive the last 4 days of each month.
If y'all get together and send me about $61 a month, I will boycott WalMart.
Email me and I'll give you the address where you can send my money.
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I shop at wally world and buy a lot of my fishing gear there. I am also looking to buy a new shotgun from them shortly. 0 -
Sometimes I shop on principle.
Sometimes I shop on price.
That balance has a lot to do with my cash flow at any moment in time.
I learned last week that shopping at the local joint sometimes allows me to shop on principle and price at the same time. That raised my eyebrow because I didn't expect it. It was pretty cool, anyway.
But it's my wallet, and bleen you if you think you have any right to tell me what to do with it.
And bleen me when I start telling you what to do with yours.
Spend your money and get off your soap box. We all know your story already.0 -
Shop at wally world, or k-mart or sears or dunn tire or any other large chain, it is the American way,BIGGER IS BETTER.Small farmers have all gone broke due to large companys. Mom and Pop stores are about to be gone,what do you expect of free enterprise? The right to shop any where you want to is what many good men have given up their lives for.FREEDOM is supreme, dont forget it! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by HobbyGuy
Sorry, guns are not the reason most (normal) people shop at Walmart. Considering that their firearm sales make up less than .075% of their total revenue, this is actually a mute point. If you wish to boycott them for such a silly reason, "have at it." I like to save money wherever and whenever possible. Support your local gun shop, or they won't be there when Walmart lets you down. [^]
Rhymes with "boot".0 -
IF WAL-MART DEPENDED ON ME THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE CLOSED ALL READY NEVER THOUGHT MUCH ABOUT BUYING GUNS THERE ANYWAY, NO PERSONAL CONTACT AS IN THE LOCAL DEALER BUT THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE IN MOST WALLY WORLDS FOR ME ESPECIALLY THE RUDE GANG BANGER LATINO TYPES AND RUDE MORONS THAT THINK I WONT'T RUN OTHER THEM WITH MY BUGGY! sorry bout the caps , didn't realize I was using them till I was finished and was NOT going to re-type it 0 -
I been boycotting Dumb-mart for years. 0 -
They only stop selling what they cant make money on. So instead of 80+ million people boycotting them... maybe they should go in weekly and ask to purchase a gun or ammo. If people were buying them they would continue to sell them. Supply and demand. Big businesses didnt get big being stupid. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by gagirl
They only stop selling what they cant make money on. So instead of 80+ million people boycotting them... maybe they should go in weekly and ask to purchase a gun or ammo. If people were buying them they would continue to sell them. Supply and demand. Big businesses didnt get big being stupid.
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You going to buy your guns at SEARS now? 0 -
quote:The gun issue aside, its about Wal-Mart destroying downtown mom and pop America. I quit shopping there a coupla yrs. ago. Am sick and tired of made in China crap!! People keep buying it and where are their kids going to work????
Amen! I do not shop there for the same reason.
As to Blackhorn calling some shooters FUDD? That is devisive. If we are fighting one another now, the Brady guys are winning. Get over yourself, selfrightiousness does not wear well.0 -
quote:He Dog Posted - 03/09/2007 : 11:39:13 AM
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The gun issue aside, its about Wal-Mart destroying downtown mom and pop America. I quit shopping there a coupla yrs. ago. Am sick and tired of made in China crap!! People keep buying it and where are their kids going to work????
Amen! I do not shop there for the same reason.
+1 Dog
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quote:Originally posted by matwor
The gun issue aside, its about Wal-Mart destroying downtown mom and pop America. I quit shopping there a coupla yrs. ago. Am sick and tired of made in China crap!! People keep buying it and where are their kids going to work????
It is competition which builds downtown mom and pop America. When a business is inefficient it is replaced. When the inefficient store goes out of business it is an opportunity for them to do something better. To move on and improve their lives and society.
I have spent my time in a factory. I sure as heck don't want my kids working in one building consumer goods. Let the Chinese build everything and we can import it all.0 -
I also do not like Wal-Mart for various reasons. One important reason is that Wal-Mart is self insured. Their company policy is that they will not settle any claim without a lawsuit.
Step daughter took her care to Wally World for an oil change. They dropped it off the lift. Wal-Mart would not pay for any of the damages. My attorney advised me to pay the deductible & let her insurance company pay the rest. A lot cheaper than trying to sue Wal-Mart. Even though they were clearly at fault, the only way to collect was to sue and they will take it to court. Since all of the attorneys know this, they seldom get sued. The plaintiff must front all of the expenses of the lawsuit, even though they may eventually collect.
I could go on about other experiences with them. I also see them causing small businesses in the town to close. The money generated by small businesses in a town stays in that town. The profits generated by Wal-Mart do not. The only real advantage is that they hire several "minimum wage" type local persons.
I DO NOT LIKE WAL-MART.0
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