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Does K-Mart Ring A Bell??
"Wal-Mart has decided NOT TO sell any firearms to those that have been declined at the point of purchase, by the FBI, ignoring the 3 day "must give" gun law in place now. I know this so called "instant check" is bogus, because I hold a concealed carry permit, and I was mistakenly denied a gun purchase by the un-informed gun shop owner who did not need to run a check on me anyway." Here's the national Wal-Mart story:
By the commies at Los Angeles Times
Eric Lichtblau
Wal-Mart goes beyond federal requirements:
Wal-Mart, the United States' biggest seller of guns, has quietly ordered it's stores to adopt a tougher policy on gun sales that goes beyond the requirements of the federal government.
Wal-Mart executives, in an internal memorandum obtained by the Los Angels Times, told store managers five weeks ago to stop selling firearms in cases in which authorities were not able to determine weather the wood-be buyers should be banned from owning a weapon.
Under federal law, if authorities cannot complete a criminal background check on a gun buyer within three business days, retailers are allowed to hand over the weapon even though the buyers' status is not clear. Nine states have more stringent standards.
The company "decided to take the extra step toward keeping guns out of the hands of individuals who possibly ought not to have them," according to the memo.
The move is a major break for a company that has sometimes been criticized for lax gun' sale policies. The Arkansas based retailers prominence in the national market place could put pressure on other gun sellers to follow suit in voluntarily withholding firearms from buyers if it is not clear weather they are allowed to own one, observers said.
Wal-Mart decision drew immediate fire from the NRA and other gun rights groups, which question the legality of the unannounced policy shift and hinted that they might seek to organize a boycott against the retailing giant.
In the vast majority of the more than eight million gun checks a year, authorities determine the buyers status in a matter of minutes or hours, confirming weather the would-be buyer has a felony record, has been institutionalized or is otherwise banned from owning a gun.
Once no disqualification are found, the gun dealer is allowed to complete the sale.
But in about five percent of sales the buyers legal status cannot be immediately determined - often because of similar names, lost paper work or poor record-keeping.
These cases have proven vexing to law enforcement because studies show that sales that proceed by default - when the three day limit runs out - produce a disproportionately high number of cases in which a customer was able to buy a gun even though he was banned from doing so.
Americans for Gun Safety, a moderate gun control group in Washington DC, found in a recent study that in a two and a half year period, 10,000 felons and others banned from owning a gun were able to purchase weapons because their background checks could not be completed in 3 days.
LETTER PROMPTED RESEARCH...
A similar congressional study last month confirmed wide spread cracks in the system.
In an April letter, Americans for Gun Safety appealed to Wal-Mart and other large retailers that sell firearms - including Big 5, Gart Sports, Sports Authority and K-Mart - to adopt a "don't know, don't sell" policy that would go beyond federal law.
Wal-Mart, which describes itself as "the local store of choice" for guns and sporting goods, did not respond to Americans for Gun Safety directly.
But internally, the letter prompted Wal-Mart executives to research the issue, and they were troubled to find nation wide data showing that many banned gun sales were executed because of the three day defaults, said Wal-Mart spokes woman Jessica Eldred.
As a result, the company decided "after much consideration" to change it's policy effective May 29 in it's 2,700 stores, nearly all of which sell guns, according to it's internal memo to store managers.
The memo lays out the policy unequivocally; if a store receives a "delayed" response from federal or state authorities who conduct the background checks on potential buyers, "do NOT transfer the firearms until you receive a proceed. To restate, you MUST have a 'proceed' (no matter how long it takes) before any firearm is transferred to a customer," the memo said.
OBSERVERS IMPRESSED...
While gun control groups have long supported extending the 3 day period for background checks, the issue is seen as so politically suicidal in Washington that even liberals have shied away from pushing it.
In deed, the current move is in the opposite direction, as attorney general John Ashcroft - a strong backer of gun rights - has sought to complete the background checks more quickly and destroy the records within 24 hours.
As a result, many observers were impressed by the Wal-Mart decision to move beyond federal law, at the suggestion of a gun control group, no less.
"This is very positive step for an organization as large as Wal-Mart to take," said retired FBI official James DeSarno, who over saw the implementation of the background check system at the bureau. The tough to check cases that take longer than 3 days, he said, "are where you're going to find the problems."
Matt Bennett, a spokesman for Americans for Gun Safety, said, "we're just delighted by how rapidly a huge corporation was able to pivot and change it's policy on such an important issue. This is a major step, and if Wal-Mart is doing it, we hope others will follow their lead."
Wal-Mart is believed to make hundreds of millions of dollars each year from it's gun sales.
THE END- I had to hand type this crap, so I hope you appreciate it. MWS-
I SAY WE DON'T NEED WALRUS-MART!
We can do just fine without them. As a matter of fact, I'm going to be standing out in the front of our local Walrus-Mart boycotting with signs and with all my friends, even my 72 year old mother in-law will be there!
Who knows? We might get some local news coverage on what we're doing. It might even put GUNEDTm on the map. -MWS
Screw Walrus-Mart, Shop At Your Local Gun Shop...
Just curious, who made this rocket science decision to say, "hay fred, our guns sales are making us 400 million dollars a year. I know, why don't we put restrictions on um' to make it more difficult for the customer to buy um'". http://guned.com/pages/walmart.html
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
Does K-Mart Ring A Bell??
"Wal-Mart has decided NOT TO sell any firearms to those that have been declined at the point of purchase, by the FBI, ignoring the 3 day "must give" gun law in place now. I know this so called "instant check" is bogus, because I hold a concealed carry permit, and I was mistakenly denied a gun purchase by the un-informed gun shop owner who did not need to run a check on me anyway." Here's the national Wal-Mart story:
By the commies at Los Angeles Times
Eric Lichtblau
Wal-Mart goes beyond federal requirements:
Wal-Mart, the United States' biggest seller of guns, has quietly ordered it's stores to adopt a tougher policy on gun sales that goes beyond the requirements of the federal government.
Wal-Mart executives, in an internal memorandum obtained by the Los Angels Times, told store managers five weeks ago to stop selling firearms in cases in which authorities were not able to determine weather the wood-be buyers should be banned from owning a weapon.
Under federal law, if authorities cannot complete a criminal background check on a gun buyer within three business days, retailers are allowed to hand over the weapon even though the buyers' status is not clear. Nine states have more stringent standards.
The company "decided to take the extra step toward keeping guns out of the hands of individuals who possibly ought not to have them," according to the memo.
The move is a major break for a company that has sometimes been criticized for lax gun' sale policies. The Arkansas based retailers prominence in the national market place could put pressure on other gun sellers to follow suit in voluntarily withholding firearms from buyers if it is not clear weather they are allowed to own one, observers said.
Wal-Mart decision drew immediate fire from the NRA and other gun rights groups, which question the legality of the unannounced policy shift and hinted that they might seek to organize a boycott against the retailing giant.
In the vast majority of the more than eight million gun checks a year, authorities determine the buyers status in a matter of minutes or hours, confirming weather the would-be buyer has a felony record, has been institutionalized or is otherwise banned from owning a gun.
Once no disqualification are found, the gun dealer is allowed to complete the sale.
But in about five percent of sales the buyers legal status cannot be immediately determined - often because of similar names, lost paper work or poor record-keeping.
These cases have proven vexing to law enforcement because studies show that sales that proceed by default - when the three day limit runs out - produce a disproportionately high number of cases in which a customer was able to buy a gun even though he was banned from doing so.
Americans for Gun Safety, a moderate gun control group in Washington DC, found in a recent study that in a two and a half year period, 10,000 felons and others banned from owning a gun were able to purchase weapons because their background checks could not be completed in 3 days.
LETTER PROMPTED RESEARCH...
A similar congressional study last month confirmed wide spread cracks in the system.
In an April letter, Americans for Gun Safety appealed to Wal-Mart and other large retailers that sell firearms - including Big 5, Gart Sports, Sports Authority and K-Mart - to adopt a "don't know, don't sell" policy that would go beyond federal law.
Wal-Mart, which describes itself as "the local store of choice" for guns and sporting goods, did not respond to Americans for Gun Safety directly.
But internally, the letter prompted Wal-Mart executives to research the issue, and they were troubled to find nation wide data showing that many banned gun sales were executed because of the three day defaults, said Wal-Mart spokes woman Jessica Eldred.
As a result, the company decided "after much consideration" to change it's policy effective May 29 in it's 2,700 stores, nearly all of which sell guns, according to it's internal memo to store managers.
The memo lays out the policy unequivocally; if a store receives a "delayed" response from federal or state authorities who conduct the background checks on potential buyers, "do NOT transfer the firearms until you receive a proceed. To restate, you MUST have a 'proceed' (no matter how long it takes) before any firearm is transferred to a customer," the memo said.
OBSERVERS IMPRESSED...
While gun control groups have long supported extending the 3 day period for background checks, the issue is seen as so politically suicidal in Washington that even liberals have shied away from pushing it.
In deed, the current move is in the opposite direction, as attorney general John Ashcroft - a strong backer of gun rights - has sought to complete the background checks more quickly and destroy the records within 24 hours.
As a result, many observers were impressed by the Wal-Mart decision to move beyond federal law, at the suggestion of a gun control group, no less.
"This is very positive step for an organization as large as Wal-Mart to take," said retired FBI official James DeSarno, who over saw the implementation of the background check system at the bureau. The tough to check cases that take longer than 3 days, he said, "are where you're going to find the problems."
Matt Bennett, a spokesman for Americans for Gun Safety, said, "we're just delighted by how rapidly a huge corporation was able to pivot and change it's policy on such an important issue. This is a major step, and if Wal-Mart is doing it, we hope others will follow their lead."
Wal-Mart is believed to make hundreds of millions of dollars each year from it's gun sales.
THE END- I had to hand type this crap, so I hope you appreciate it. MWS-
I SAY WE DON'T NEED WALRUS-MART!
We can do just fine without them. As a matter of fact, I'm going to be standing out in the front of our local Walrus-Mart boycotting with signs and with all my friends, even my 72 year old mother in-law will be there!
Who knows? We might get some local news coverage on what we're doing. It might even put GUNEDTm on the map. -MWS
Screw Walrus-Mart, Shop At Your Local Gun Shop...
Just curious, who made this rocket science decision to say, "hay fred, our guns sales are making us 400 million dollars a year. I know, why don't we put restrictions on um' to make it more difficult for the customer to buy um'". http://guned.com/pages/walmart.html
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
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quote: Let the Chinese build everything and we can import it all.That is one of the most ignorant things I have ever heard. 0 -
It might be an exageration but it is anything but ignorant.
What is ignorant is advocating the use of geographic boundaries to determine the source of consumer goods.0 -
the fact they are quitting firearms has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment,,,they are dropping the fabric deartments in most stores also,,,it has everything to do with profit and avalible floor space and the bullsnot factor,,,I like wal-mart and will shop there most of the time for my staple goods but I do go to a meat market for my fresh meat , people believe places like wallyworld ,lowes or home depot sell different goods than the local mom and pop stores,,,,believe me people its all the same stuff out of the same plants shipped all on the same truck lines ,the price just reflects the difference in volume buying and overhead , 0 -
Sorry, but I love WalMart. 0 -
quote:It is competition which builds downtown mom and pop America.
In the face of dumping, that too is ignorant. Destroy the competition and have it all is the Walmart credo.0 -
Show me evidence of dumping by Wal-Mart. Many have tried and it has not been done. They have been investigated for this many times. It just isn't happening.
Do you even know what dumping is? It is when merchandise is sold for LESS than it is produced. So Wal-Mart would have to buy something for $5 and sell it for $4. Yeah- that is how they made it big[B)]
If there is a store that is dumping the best thing we (as consumers and store owners) can do is to yell out loud and clear for them to keep it up. We will get stuff dirt cheap and they will go out of business. Dumping is GOOD for consumers and businessess.
Think of it this way. You have a store which sells thingamijigs. A competitor opens and starts dumping. The smartest thing you can do is sit back and watch him go out of business. Maybe even go buy up the thingamajigs he is selling (they are being sold for below his cost and most likely your cost as well) buy that stuff up and help him go out of business, then you can sell the thingimigs you bought at below cost and make even more money. You win becuase you got a bunch of thingamijigs for under cost and your competitor goes out of business.
Claims of dumping are such garbage. Dumping does not do a business any good to do it, especially in the long run. It is one of those things there are laws against but the laws are not needed because it doesn't happen. It is a bad business decision to start dumping.
So now you wall argue that Wal-Mart is big enough to absorb the losses of dumping until the small store has to close. Then Wal-Mart will raise their prices to a new high.
So let it happen. When Wal-Mart raises their prices to the new high there will be an excellent opportunity for someone to start a business to compete against Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart can't afford to keep the cycle up-they will go broke.
Dumping is a vicious circle which leads to destruction of the business doing the dumping. It serves no purpose (other than to help consumers and competitors) and is not sustainable as a business model.0 -
i hate the store
if it cost a nickel more some where else so be it
they have no checkers open you stand in line foe 30-45 min to save a dollar hell no
my time is worth more to me than that
and as far as self checking B.CHIT
i dont work for them and i receive no discount for doing there job
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Wal Mart doesn't put anyone out of business. American Free Enterprise is built on competition. If you can't compete, you fail. And that is as it should be.
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quote:Originally posted by Warpig883
quote:Originally posted by dano
If you don't support and/or shop at Wal-Mart, you are obviously a COMMIE. [^]
A red pinko commie bastich!
Actually you two are wrong. If you buy at Walmart you are supporting communism, because most merchandise Walmart sell is made in China. Walmart is one of the biggest businesses in China. There is alot of money going there and all this money fuels their economy. I always say that Walmart is only helping China so they can come and kick our ass.0 -
quote:Originally posted by HobbyGuy
You defined the term Fudd? No you didn't. You just call people a "Fudd" and then insult them by saying they don't know what your made-up term means? Of course they don't know. I don't know either. What I do know is that you're acting like a complete moron here. I have a difficult time understanding many things you have written and agree that you must be drunk and are simply being a belligerent jackass. If you have something inteligent to say, we'd probably listen (but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting to be blessed with your infinite wisdom). [xx(]
Hold on now. I'm not so sure he's acting. [;)] [:D]0 -
quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
quote:Originally posted by HobbyGuy
You defined the term Fudd? No you didn't. You just call people a "Fudd" and then insult them by saying they don't know what your made-up term means? Of course they don't know. I don't know either. What I do know is that you're acting like a complete moron here. I have a difficult time understanding many things you have written and agree that you must be drunk and are simply being a belligerent jackass. If you have something inteligent to say, we'd probably listen (but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting to be blessed with your infinite wisdom). [xx(]
Hold on now. I'm not so sure he's acting. [;)] [:D]
This coming from two who, if they put their heads together could at best make an ass of themselves. The word Fudd is not mine, but culled from a board that is a bit more down to earth than this one could ever hope to be. As for your insults, you both bore me.0 -
I go to walmart once or twice a year. Its like going to a third world country. It used to be fun to screw around with thier help. I hear the commies and republicans love the joint. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Blckhrn
I called no one anything
Then who's the punk? [;)]
[That's how he can afford to feed his Class III toys]
There are 300,000 NRA members in PA. Maybe if organizations like that got involved,
there would be some results to a boycott.0 -
Walmart sucks. I'd rather give my money to a homeless junkie. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by rmeyer
Walmart sucks. I'd rather give my money to a homeless junkie.
Since I'm homeless, you'll have to send it to my P. O. Box. eMail me for the address. [:D]0 -
quote:Originally posted by rmeyer
Walmart sucks. I'd rather give my money to a homeless junkie.
Hey, we really can't help you with your wife and kids.0 -
My wife and kids? Good 1. Bet your proud of that. 0 -
Blckhrn, I usually don't speculate about anybody's true identity, but I have to know. Are you my brother-in-law? 0 -
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quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
Blckhrn, I usually don't speculate about anybody's true identity, but I have to know. Are you my brother-in-law?0 -
WAl-mart sucks! As a matter of fact the only thing i went there for was CO2's, .40 rounds and to look at the A$$ while the wife shops. I hate that place with a passion! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by renneck
......and to look at the A$$ while the wife shops.
I have never seen a babe at our walmart.0
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