welfare part II
How interesting that so many of us know a person or two who has used the welfare system as it was supposed to be used, a short-term program to get through hard times, and many, many people who treat it as a life-long "occupation." How interesting, too, that although trillions of dollars have flowed SE DC, most of West Virginia, Appalachia, and many other poor parts of the country, all those areas are still miserable, poverty-filled hell holes. I think that shows us quite well how the program is working.
And let's be honest, SSDI is welfare. Plain and simple. It's money the government gives a person. You can talk until you're blue in the face about all the money you contributed and how you're just getting that back, but the average person gets back all his contributions and interest in about 3 or 4 years. I don't know how long the average person is on disability, but I bet it's one heck of a lot longer than that.
Our government has turned into an income redistribution machine. It takes money from people who work hard and gives it to people who "can't" and won't work. My wife and I do without a lot. We take very few vacations, don't own fancy things, and we drive old cars. We do so so we can save for medical problems and retirement. Other people blow their cash or simply choose not to work. And guess who is going to have to pay whom.
If you can't take care of yourself then it is time for you to die. Yes, to die. If you don't, you just become a parasite. Somehow America has gone from a land of hard working people who suffered in silence and who would be ashamed to take a handout to a bunch of lazy slobs who feel entitled to stick their grubby hands into other peoples' wallets.
And let's be honest, SSDI is welfare. Plain and simple. It's money the government gives a person. You can talk until you're blue in the face about all the money you contributed and how you're just getting that back, but the average person gets back all his contributions and interest in about 3 or 4 years. I don't know how long the average person is on disability, but I bet it's one heck of a lot longer than that.
Our government has turned into an income redistribution machine. It takes money from people who work hard and gives it to people who "can't" and won't work. My wife and I do without a lot. We take very few vacations, don't own fancy things, and we drive old cars. We do so so we can save for medical problems and retirement. Other people blow their cash or simply choose not to work. And guess who is going to have to pay whom.
If you can't take care of yourself then it is time for you to die. Yes, to die. If you don't, you just become a parasite. Somehow America has gone from a land of hard working people who suffered in silence and who would be ashamed to take a handout to a bunch of lazy slobs who feel entitled to stick their grubby hands into other peoples' wallets.
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I don't want to live to be weak or frail. I think it was Chief Blackhawk that said "It is better to die young and strong, then old and weak."
I'm not saying we should kill off the older folks. I just would rather not feel what it's like to grow to weak to do common things.0 -
Just some random thoughts bouncing around my all too spacious head.
Why don't we go back to what worked.
Able bodied people should work and do their part. They should be embarrassed to have to take charity. You would be surprised how well people can figure a way to put food in their mouths if they are really hungry.
If they work hard and at a legal way of earning a living, and have kids and need help, most others will see fit to lend them a hand.
Allow people to shoot at fleeing felons. Then, if the guy goes to steal your car, or break into your house to take what you have, he will be eliminated by his peers either while there or while running away from you or the cops. That is a big incentive to do it the legal way.
What we do now is encourage people to depend on the rest of us and then, while we go off to work, they have nothing better to do but break in our houses, garages or cars to feed the drug and alcohol habits they acquire while sitting around.
I know I have mentioned this before but it has been a while.
My father raised 7 kids on a very meager income. We lived in Detroit and I recall my Dad going to the produce market at 6 am every Sunday to buy the fruits and veggies that were pulled of the shelves and tossed into boxes below because they were bruised, damaged or over-ripe. We would take it home and clean it up, cut out the bad parts and put in containers to last the week. In the fall, he would drive out to farms out in the country and dicker with farmers for fruits and veggies. He would fill up the station wagon with empty gallon glass jugs that his work was throwing out (he worked at Pepsi and they used liquid sugar in gallon jugs) and would trade them to a man who became a very good friend over the years, that owned a farm and apple orchard. He would give my dad 50 cents for a case of 4 empty glass jugs because he didn't want his cider in plastic jugs. My dad never took a penny back from him but instead traded for cider, apples, veggies and fresh milk.
He would let my dad know what farms were selling cabbage, or broccoli, cauliflower and the like. My dads station wagon always went home just as full as when we headed out, and I recall many times I was squished in between the stuff we brought or took home.
In addition, the farmer let us hunt pheasants, small game and even deer on his property and would let us know which neighbors would let us hunt.
And when we got back to the city, my father would share the produce with his brothers and sisters (he came from a large family as well) as well as neighbors and friends. Some would toss him a few bucks or give him something else that they had a surplus of, like my Uncle who would show up at Christmas with a box of new coats that he made some deal on somewhere at an auction or fire sale or closeout.
I never went to bed hungry. None of us did. I recall a local charity bringing a food basket by our house at Christmas time. My dad would send them on their way saying "No Thanks-We have plenty to eat-give it to someone that needs it. We are doing just fine here." He was proud and did what he needed to do to feed his family.
And guess what else. My dad never owed money to credit cards or banks other than for his house. He drove used cars his whole life He kept a credit card for Montgomery Wards and would take advantage of a freebie offer they sent once a year if you used the card. They would offer something like a free alarm clock if you made a purchase with the credit card. He would go and buy us some socks or something else we needed and put them on the card. He would get the free gift and then pay off the balance when the bill came so he would have no interest charge.
You might think I would be embarrassed or regretting my "rough childhood". Just the opposite! I have many fond memories of singing in the car on my way to the produce market with my dad, coming home to the smell of percolated coffee on the stove and hot biscuits and eggs and bacon or ham waiting before or after we went to church. We picked up pop bottles for penny candy and cut lawns and shoveled snow for spending money.
Anyway we all grew up, became productive and got good jobs. My older sister works for a large University, in the financial aid section, (imagine that)and is almost ready to retire. My older brother became a communications tech and used to fix tube tv's for people while we were growing up. He worked for Detroit PD as a radio tech before going to Ford Motor to do the same.
I worked for UPS for 8 years before getting a job in Law Enforcement. I retired last year but am going to classes to become a drivers education instructor.
My younger sister works for a dentist and owns a massage business.
My younger brother owns a large heating and cooling business in the metro-Detroit area.
My youngest brother works for the same university as my older sister (as a plumber) and has a drain cleaning business as well.
My youngest sister is a mail carrier for the post office.
Not one of us have ever collected a dime in welfare. And none of us ever ended in jail or prison either. And most of us pay all of our credit cards off each month.
So don't tell me we need so many people on welfare. Some-OK. Handicapped-Sure. Able bodied males without children-NO WAY-at least not for long term. My family and I donate to churches, St Judes Hospital, and other respectable charities. I have monthly payments put on my credit card every month for oversees charities. I am willing to help out those that can't help themselves or those that are TRYING to better themselves. But I think it stinks that I have to pay for lazy, good for nothing, druggies or alcoholics or worse yet, CRIMINALS that are too lazy to work.
If they are felons or have outstanding warrants, they don't deserve welfare! TAKE IT AWAY. If they break into your house to take what is yours, SHOOT THEM, and then haul them out with the rest of the garbage. If they want to work-FINE- I'll chip in and do my share. If they are sick or unable-FINE-I'll do my part. If they want to get up and go to work, I'll try to send some work their way. If they are alcoholics and will work to get clean-GREAT! Prove to me that they are working to get straight and I'll do what I can to help.
If people worked like past generations have, to come to this country and work for a better way of life like my grandparents did, then welcome. If not, close the gate in their face. THIS IS AMERICA! THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY! You want nice things-work for them. You make your own opportunities and lifestyle. So work hard and do your best. It's all up to you. And if you do, this country will continue to grow and prosper. If not, it will flush all the good people down the toilet. The water is swirling already. People better start electing officials that know what life in America is all about. We don't need the crap most of the politicians are trying to sell us. Tell them that.
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GUNFUNCO, that's a bingo post if'n I ever saw one. 0 -
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GUNFUNCO said..."My family and I donate to churches, St Judes Hospital, and other respectable charities. I have monthly payments put My family and I donate to churches, St Judes Hospital, and other respectable charities."
Question about separation of church and state. If church and state are to be separate and church has a couple thousand year history of charity then isn't the state stepping into the church area of operations?0 -
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The only thing I would add would be drug testing for illegal drugs for Social Security Disability and welfare recipients, and instant deportation for criminal mexicans.
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Gunfunco,
Well said !! If you ever run for office you have my vote !
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Thanks for the kind comments on my post.
I don't have plans to run for office but I think I could do a better job than many of them already there. But I try not to associate with too many crooks.[:D]0
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