How many think it's OK to...
How many think it's O.K. to trade your car or truck in when you find out that the transmission is failing. Lets say your mechanic tells you that the engine is going to need $2,000.00 worth of work this week or it will start blowing smoke and eventually fail. What do you do??
I'll voice my opinions after a few replys.
I'll voice my opinions after a few replys.
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quote:Originally posted by bgjohn
You don't need to tell the dealer. He knows. That's his business. Besides, he won't give you anything for your trade in the first place.
JM
I tried telling the dealer on my last trade in. It was a 2002 Envoy that I had just gotten detailed. I think I got an extra $1000 more than he would have given me if I hadn't spent the $60 to get it clean (I have 2 little guys that are messy). He was shocked that it looked like new. Anyway, I tried telling him about the dent on the rear bumper and the power windows that weren't working, but he kept saying, that's just typical wear; I don't need to know about that. He gave me between KBB trade in and private sale price. I guess if I had a vehicle that was giving me problems, I'd start with the stuff I had had fixed, then maybe by the time I got to "..and I'm having trouble with the tranny" he'd have spaced out already.0 -
quote:Originally posted by ginmaster
I've been told by many customers that they would trade it in before fixing it. I've also seen that same car come back in my shop with a new owner only to have the same problem. I've sat there listening to how they just bought it and can't afford to fix it. I've heard the sob story about how long it took to save the money to make the down payment. I've also seen the dealer sale an extended warranty for $300 extra dollars that is suppose to cover stuff like this. You guessed it, the extended warranty company covers it for 30 days only and has so much fine print that the laugh if anyone calls trying to start a claim.
One year I kept seeing this Nissan Maxima coming back to my shop. It came in with three different owners in three months.
And did you charge $75 to diagnose the problem even though you knew what was wrong with it to begin with?[}:)]0 -
Nunn, youmight be right about the tranny and engine, but even the more modern cars are not instrumented so well that they can pick up a bad rear end, or a wiring fault, fuel level indicator problem, or vacuum leak...
Full disclosure is proper, EVEN TO A DEALER...(Hey, if you figure the dealer is screwing everybody, then WHY ARE YOU DEALING WITH HIM?)
I figure that folks that think they are entitled because "They are rich, I am not" are the same ones that hang on the side when there is a line to get in a stadium and when the gates open, they dart into the line at the front, the same folks that run down the shoulder to get in front of those who wait their turn in heavy traffic, the same folks who buy clothes and wear them to a "DO", then return the clothes (with food, makeup, and funk on them).
You see, A$$hats who do that stuff force OUR suppliers to raise their prices to allow for scum like that - that effectively prices out the marginal kids and families having a hard time. In my experience it is just those who claim to be caring and concerned for the poor, etc, who do these things...folks who have been poor and have come up hard are I think, less likely to have this poor attitude.
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"Push it, pull it, tow it to Golf Mill Ford."
I drive my cars into the ground, when I go to trade them in I tell the dealer they are worth scrap.0 -
I disclosed the problems with my trade in, I had an accident last year and that caused some problems. But the dealer disclosed nothing. "We stand behind our cars, the mechanics go over every used car and check it before sale, that is why we have a 30 day, 1000 mile warranty on them".
Guess what, 36 days later (and 1700 miles) the transmission goes on my used car I just purchased. The dealer is like you bought a used car, tough. The used car manager tells me he knows it is over warranty but he will cover all repairs. Three hours later the general manager calls and says screw what the used car manager said, he will cover half the repair ($1000).
I posted this on myspace, facebook and tell everyone I see about this dealer. I had T-shirts made up with the dealer's name inside of lemons and put a sign on the back of the car saying never buy from him.
One of the women at work told me she went elsewhere to buy a NEW car because of this.0 -
Most of the dealerships around here give the "Such and Such dollar amount, no matter what condition it is in!" deal. I figure if they are willing to take junkers, then I don't need to disclose anything. I usually don't trade my vehicles in until they are worth less than $2000 anyway. That way I can get a semi-deal on that offer. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by flyingtorpedo
They screw you on the trade in so I wouldn't have a problem doing it.
car dealers lay claim to the only profession where people think they're theives for trying to earn a living.
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quote:I drive my cars into the ground, when I go to trade them in I tell the dealer they are worth scrap.
Would have to agree with ya on that one. I have owned two cars so far in my life. The first was still running when it got totalled in a accident and the 2nd I am still driving[:D].
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quote:Originally posted by bigtire
quote:Originally posted by ginmaster
I've been told by many customers that they would trade it in before fixing it. I've also seen that same car come back in my shop with a new owner only to have the same problem. I've sat there listening to how they just bought it and can't afford to fix it. I've heard the sob story about how long it took to save the money to make the down payment. I've also seen the dealer sale an extended warranty for $300 extra dollars that is suppose to cover stuff like this. You guessed it, the extended warranty company covers it for 30 days only and has so much fine print that the laugh if anyone calls trying to start a claim.
One year I kept seeing this Nissan Maxima coming back to my shop. It came in with three different owners in three months.
And did you charge $75 to diagnose the problem even though you knew what was wrong with it to begin with?[}:)]
Nope, actually we don't charge anything.0 -
I can tell you from hard experience that there are a bunch of gun owners who have no problem with taking a gun with problems to a gun show and dumping it on an unsuspecting dealer. 0 -
no , would,nt do that unless its a dealer thats runnin a push pull or tow trade in special, they do it here all the time. to many high school kids that look for problem cars cheap. {if you trade the dealer don't give much anywhow}. they take them to auto mechanics class and learn how to fix them and drive them around[;)][:D] 0 -
I just put a $1,000 radiator in a combine I'm likely going to trade off next year, and by the year after for sure.
I pulled the old one out, took it to the repair shop, and was told they could do a $400 repair job that would likely hold for a year or so if I was going to get rid of the machine.
It took a week to get the new one in from the order, with no combining beans for me in the meantime while other folks were running.
I think that answers the question.0 -
When I pull my old pickup onto a car dealers lot, there is no question what is wrong with it. I wear them out and then trade them. I do not get anything for them but at least I do not have to dispose of them. The dealer knows how to get rid of them Don 0 -
quote:Originally posted by fishermanben
quote:Originally posted by flyingtorpedo
They screw you on the trade in so I wouldn't have a problem doing it.
car dealers lay claim to the only profession where people think they're theives for trying to earn a living.
Ben
Are they not?0 -
Car dealers and politicians run neck and neck for bottom of the barrel...I have scant respect for either.
Most of those trade ins are wholesaled out..they are expected to be junk...and junk price is what you get.
The second tier dealers that buy those cars you can bet your boots will tell you nothing save.."driven by a little old lady"...
Any man that trades off a defective gun without completely explaining the known malfunction ought to be branded and whipped in public.0
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