How many think it's OK to...
How many think it's O.K. to trade your car or truck in when you find out that the transmission is failing. Lets say your mechanic tells you that the engine is going to need $2,000.00 worth of work this week or it will start blowing smoke and eventually fail. What do you do??
I'll voice my opinions after a few replys.
I'll voice my opinions after a few replys.
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I wouldn't without disclosing the problem, but that's me. 0 -
Off load it while you can. Kinda shady, but I've done it. 0 -
In Texas you have to sign an affidavit when you trade in the vehicle stating everything that is wrong with the car. If you fail to reveal anything, you are liable.
The dealer can go ahead and sell the bad car "as is", and you are still the one on the hook.0 -
They screw you on the trade in so I wouldn't have a problem doing it. 0 -
If you have done this or if you think it is O.K. to do this then I may offend you with this reply.
I believe this kind of thinking is what is wrong with America. If you think it's O.K. to avoid responsibility then you haven't been raised right. The people that usually trade them off are the people that have the means to repair it. They may not like it but they can afford it. They can charge it, 90 day same as cash it, and even sometimes write a check for it. I've seen some good people even pull money out of their 401, Cd's and some plain out barrow it from mommy and daddy. So why do some people just trade it in. It's the path of least resistance. America has far too many people who hold themselves on a pedestal.
They think that they are smart for trading it in and not paying for the repair. Their budget is based on a car payment. That car repair may prevent them from taking that vacation to the Bahamas. What they choose not to know is that someone has to fix that car. Usually it's that single parent mother who works at the UPS store or at the local steak house. She saved here money for a down payment on a 2003 Alero with 75,000 miles. She thought that it would provide reliable transportation for her and her 2 year old daughter. It's costing her half of her bring home a month but it's worth it. Then that check engine light comes on. Later of course she finds out that it's the transmission. What can she do about it? Little to nothing. It gets reposed and her life goes down that path. Ever think about that? What happens to that 2yr old? The bad thing is she'd fix it if she had the means.
Sorry for the rant, but I've seen this far to often. It makes me sick.0 -
quote:Originally posted by dheffley
In Texas you have to sign an affidavit when you trade in the vehicle stating everything that is wrong with the car. If you fail to reveal anything, you are liable.
The dealer can go ahead and sell the bad car "as is", and you are still the one on the hook.
Like to see that go national.0 -
i would trade it in to a dealer but not a private party. in fact, one time i traded in my 1991 bronco for my new f-150. the day before the bronco broke down and the fuel pump was shot and the tranny was shifting hard. my mechanic jerry-rigged the pump just so i could get to the dealer. they drove it and agreed to take it as a trade in on my new truck. after the deal was done and i had the keys to my new truck i was pulling out of the dealers lot and they came running over to me. i looked and saw my bronco broken down in the middle of the street and the dealer guy asked "is there some trick to restarting it?" i said i didnt know. i left. it was there car at that point. they had their mechanic drive it and they agreed to take it.
i wouldnt do that with a private party though. in fact, every time i have sold a car, boat or motorcycle i have disclosed EVERYTHING i knew about it.0 -
quote:Originally posted by ginmaster
quote:Originally posted by dheffley
In Texas you have to sign an affidavit when you trade in the vehicle stating everything that is wrong with the car. If you fail to reveal anything, you are liable.
The dealer can go ahead and sell the bad car �as is�, and you are still the one on the hook.
Like to see that go national.
It's sad that we need a "law" telling people to be decent to each other.0 -
Had a chevy truck one time that was a money pit, always something going wrong with it. I pulled into a used car lot hoping to trade it off for something a bit more economical. Had my 8yr old daughter with me and when we about to stike a deal, she starts in listing all the things she'd heard me raggin about..grrrrrr 0 -
I believe it's perfectly alright to do if you are trading for a leaky boat or an airplane with engine problems. 0 -
Go for it.
Youll end up paying for it ten times worse.
Its not right to lie, You shouldnt do it0 -
I've been told by many customers that they would trade it in before fixing it. I've also seen that same car come back in my shop with a new owner only to have the same problem. I've sat there listening to how they just bought it and can't afford to fix it. I've heard the sob story about how long it took to save the money to make the down payment. I've also seen the dealer sale an extended warranty for $300 extra dollars that is suppose to cover stuff like this. You guessed it, the extended warranty company covers it for 30 days only and has so much fine print that the laugh if anyone calls trying to start a claim.
One year I kept seeing this Nissan Maxima coming back to my shop. It came in with three different owners in three months.0 -
quote:i would trade it in to a dealer but not a private party. in fact, one time i traded in my 1991 bronco for my new f-150. the day before the bronco broke down and the fuel pump was shot and the tranny was shifting hard. my mechanic jerry-rigged the pump just so i could get to the dealer. they drove it and agreed to take it as a trade in on my new truck. after the deal was done and i had the keys to my new truck i was pulling out of the dealers lot and they came running over to me. i looked and saw my bronco broken down in the middle of the street and the dealer guy asked "is there some trick to restarting it?" i said i didnt know. i left. it was there car at that point. they had their mechanic drive it and they agreed to take it.
i wouldnt do that with a private party though. in fact, every time i have sold a car, boat or motorcycle i have disclosed EVERYTHING i knew about it.
Talk about a double standard! Help me understand you. You don't mind screwing a dealer, but would stop short of screwing "joe public." How is it any different? "Joe Public" is going to get the car eventually.
No matter how you try to sugar coat it, it is wrong. But hey, if you can live with it, more power to you. Personally, I couldn't. And IMHO anyone who would do something like that is about the lowest form of life on this planet. It's dishonest, plain and simple.0 -
Another senerio:
You've driven this vehicle for 5yrs. You're told it will cost 2k to fix. You are tired of this car and want something different. You trade it to the dealer fully disclosing the problem. I don't see anything wrong with this senerio. What the dealer does with it is on them after that. My concious would be clear. Are you supose to spend 2k on a car you are not keeping just to trade it in? The dealer will not give you a penny more for the car after you invest 2k in repairs than he would before, as long as the car is running either way. The morality issue would fall on the dealer, would it not?
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quote:You trade it to the dealer fully disclosing the problem
IMHO, no problem. You told them what was wrong. Now it's in their hands.0 -
I traded in a Dodge Caravan and told the dealer that it has transmission problems, and he said when a Dodge Caravan comes in on trade they assume already that it has transmission problems! 0 -
I am not a crook. 0 -
I have never traded a vehicle into a dealer.
Sold a "few" through private sales, always disclosed any defect.
Usually when I get done with one, it is DRT, and it's sold to the scrapper.0 -
quote:Originally posted by ginmaster
If you have done this or if you think it is O.K. to do this then I may offend you with this reply.
I believe this kind of thinking is what is wrong with America. If you think it's O.K. to avoid responsibility then you haven't been raised right. The people that usually trade them off are the people that have the means to repair it. They may not like it but they can afford it. They can charge it, 90 day same as cash it, and even sometimes write a check for it. I've seen some good people even pull money out of their 401, Cd's and some plain out barrow it from mommy and daddy. So why do some people just trade it in. It's the path of least resistance. America has far too many people who hold themselves on a pedestal.
They think that they are smart for trading it in and not paying for the repair. Their budget is based on a car payment. That car repair may prevent them from taking that vacation to the Bahamas. What they choose not to know is that someone has to fix that car. Usually it's that single parent mother who works at the UPS store or at the local steak house. She saved here money for a down payment on a 2003 Alero with 75,000 miles. She thought that it would provide reliable transportation for her and her 2 year old daughter. It's costing her half of her bring home a month but it's worth it. Then that check engine light comes on. Later of course she finds out that it's the transmission. What can she do about it? Little to nothing. It gets reposed and her life goes down that path. Ever think about that? What happens to that 2yr old? The bad thing is she'd fix it if she had the means.
Sorry for the rant, but I've seen this far to often. It makes me sick.
You're right. I've seen folks trade off broken guns at the gun show with their only concern being, I hope they don't notice it's broken. Never a concern of someone depending on it to fire to defend themselves and it failing.
The same is true for a faulty auto. Who's wife, daughter or someone with children or a baby in the car is going to break down in a bad neighborhood, on the freeway in rush hour, or in the dead of winter in a blizard.
I just couldn't bring myself to do that and risk hurting someone. I would rather sell the car to a junk yard and see it parted out. In fact, I have done just that, and I've also disassembled bad guns and sold off the parts that were still good rather than a defective gun.
I guess it all comes down to how you believe and how you were raised.0 -
I haven't but it probably wouldn't give me a second thought considering how much dealers screw you on trade ins. 0 -
My mother was a single mom raising me, we didn't have much money...her car kept overheating and after multiple times trying to have it repaired nobody could fix the problem. She traded the car in knowing that it would overheat without disclosing this to the dealer in fear she would not get enough trade allowance, thus making trading not affordable. I guess it was more important for her to be able to get me to school and for her to get to work.
I dont think any less of her for doing it.0 -
So if your trading in a car or truck with over 100,000 miles on it your going to guarantee it? If anyone thinks there getting a good deal on anything that has high milage on it there nuts. 0 -
$2G to fix? I fix it. Can't buy a new car for $2G.
Here is the question to ask. You have a car you like pretty well and it needs $2G worth of work to be right again. Ask yourself, "If I didn't own this car, would I give $2G for it with a newly-rebuilt whatever?" If the answer is "Yes," then fix it.
But, that didn't answer the question. I think the days of car dealers trying to screw customers and vice versa are about over, so you should disclose any known defects.0 -
quote:Originally posted by victorlvlb
So if your trading in a car or truck with over 100,000 miles on it your going to guarantee it? If anyone thinks there getting a good deal on anything that has high milage on it there nuts.
Knowingly trading a costly defective car in without disclosing it, is what I am getting at.0 -
you have to tell someone about the problem 0 -
Most cars anymore have computers that control/record everything. Most dealerships, even small ones, have diagnostic equipment on site. In 15 minutes, they can find out what is wrong with the car, so this question is, for the most part, moot. 0 -
When I am trough with them the only folks that will take them is the junk yard [:I] 
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I keep my cars until they're done for. Then I usually sell them cheap for kid cars. I tell the buyers everything I know about the condition of the car, then tell them "Do you see the end of my driveway?, that's the end of the guarantee." 0 -
Without looking at anyones replies, I would take it to the dealership and tell them the problem and trade it in. I wouldnt want someone else to suffer the same problem I did. Plus there is also this thing called "Karma". It would come back to bite you in the butt. 0 -
You don't need to tell the dealer. He knows. That's his business. Besides, he won't give you anything for your trade in the first place.
JM0
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