went to hospital ER room sat night
I know I should have went to my regular Dr. sooner, but I don't go to Dr. any more than I have to,
I have an infection in my foot, sat night it was burning like it was in a camp fire, Was in the hospital 6 hr got an x-ray and blood drawn and saw the Dr. for about 10 min. Sure am glad that I didn't have blood running out of me I would have bled out before I saw a Dr. OUR MEDICAL IN THE USA SUCKS.
I have an infection in my foot, sat night it was burning like it was in a camp fire, Was in the hospital 6 hr got an x-ray and blood drawn and saw the Dr. for about 10 min. Sure am glad that I didn't have blood running out of me I would have bled out before I saw a Dr. OUR MEDICAL IN THE USA SUCKS.
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quote:Originally posted by chuck
I know I should have went to my regular Dr. sooner, but I don't go to Dr. any more than I have to,
I have an infection in my foot, sat night it was burning like it was in a camp fire, Was in the hospital 6 hr got an x-ray and blood drawn and saw the Dr. for about 10 min. Sure am glad that I didn't have blood running out of me I would have bled out before I saw a Dr. OUR MEDICAL IN THE USA SUCKS.
Try going to Canada. That 6 hrs would have been 6 weeks.0 -
ER patients are not seen in the order in which they arrived. They are seen according the immediate seriousness of their complaint. Generally, a bleeding wound or chest pain gets in pretty quick, ahead of people with an infected foot. 0 -
What Nunn and Handgun said. 0 -
I am glad I live in a small town with a really nice hospital. I have never waited for more than a few minutes to be seen in the ER. 0 -
Was in central Siberia in 91 and had to take a guy to the local hospital(about 60 Km) for stitches, the nurse scrubbed the wound with foul smelling and from the sounds from the guy really painfull antiseptic, then the Doc in his best broken english says " you man or boy", to which Mike says "hell I'm 54 years old I'm a man", the Russian Doc nods his head in agreement and starts stiching him up, man did he make some noise then. When the Doc was done the fingers looked like someone had sewn shag carpet together. The fellow had to have surgery on this as soon as he got stateside (about a week)
Also have seen some pretty primitive medicine go on in Kazazhstan and Papua New Guinea.
I think we are pretty fortunate to have the access to the care that we do get, amongst other things that we spoiled Americans overlook everyday.0 -
At Halifax Regional Hospital they prioritize by how you got to the Emergency Room. People coming in by ambulance get seen before anybody else. A hangnail that comes in by ambulance has priority over a sucking chest wound that came in by privately owned vehicle. Within those categories they prioritize by seriousness of the problem. 0 -
Yes, I have seen this tragedy you speak of many times.
I have been in E.M.S. in a big city fire dept. for over twenty years.
It's 0330 and we get a run for the pt. in pain. On arrival, we find out this pt. has been dealing with this problem for several weeks and now doesn't know what to do. They call us because they believe if the medics bring them in by ambulance they will be seen quicker.
Well, we work in conjuction with a Level 1 trauma center and the word for sorting is TRIAGE. Don't blame the hospital for a decision you made long before you arrived.
Hospital E.R. staff is overworked and under paid for the service they provide.
Too many times I have seen my friends work feverishly to save a young child's life from something unexpected, only to find that God wants this child home.
Then 15 minutes later have to deal with someone complaining about the medical care they haven't received for ........go ahead you can fill in the blanks.
You are correct in stating we have health care problems that need to be addressed here in the U.S. but to say it sucks, well if you don't like it here there's always socialized medicine or 3 world country that would like to assist you in your time of need.0 -
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quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
What Nunn and Handgun said.0 -
triage. (sp) 0 -
quote:Originally posted by tsavo303
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quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
What Nunn and Handgun said.
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Triage is the term, but it is mis-applied, mis-used, and ill-defined by modern medical personnel. Triage is a French word, and it has application in military environments, such as dealing with dead and wounded after an engagement. Triage involves dividing the dead and wounded into three groups.
1. Life-threatening, seriously hurt, but treatable with what we have on hand.
2. Hurt but not bad enough that he can't wait until we get through with the #1 people.
3. Dead. Also includes people who are hurt so badly that we can't help them, or people who would sap resources better applied to #1 patients.
Call it what you want, but if you are not dividing patients into THREE groups, you are not perfoming triage. One patient at a time is not triage.
Dawnie and I had more than one argument on the subject. When she was working in an ER, she would say, "So and so is triage-ing today."
I would say, "No he's not. He is EVALUATING today."
PS to original poster: If you got in and out of an ER for a non-emergent situation on a Saturday night in 6 hours, you are doing good.0 -
nunn, You are correct about the definition of the word, and I thought for years that it was just a military/naval medical term. The first time I heard it used by civilian medical folks I was wondering why they would need to triage.
The civilian usage of the word is 180? out from military usage. In military usage, the first treated are those who can be put back into action quickest. The priority is the reverse of an Emergency Room.0 -
quote:Originally posted by likemhot
Yes, I have seen this tragedy you speak of many times.
I have been in E.M.S. in a big city fire dept. for over twenty years.
It's 0330 and we get a run for the pt. in pain. On arrival, we find out this pt. has been dealing with this problem for several weeks and now doesn't know what to do. They call us because they believe if the medics bring them in by ambulance they will be seen quicker.
Well, we work in conjuction with a Level 1 trauma center and the word for sorting is TRIAGE. Don't blame the hospital for a decision you made long before you arrived.
Hospital E.R. staff is overworked and under paid for the service they provide.
Too many times I have seen my friends work feverishly to save a young child's life from something unexpected, only to find that God wants this child home.
Then 15 minutes later have to deal with someone complaining about the medical care they haven't received for ........go ahead you can fill in the blanks.
You are correct in stating we have health care problems that need to be addressed here in the U.S. but to say it sucks, well if you don't like it here there's always socialized medicine or 3 world country that would like to assist you in your time of need.
+1 Go visit a hospital in the Bahamas and you will thank God for the medical care we have in the US!!!0 -
quote:Originally posted by nunn
ER patients are not seen in the order in which they arrived. They are seen according the immediate seriousness of their complaint. Generally, a bleeding wound or chest pain gets in pretty quick, ahead of people with an infected foot.
you know the one. He was the one that could have seen his regular doctor, but didn't [}:)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by chuck
I know I should have went to my regular Dr. sooner, but I don't go to Dr. any more than I have to,
I have an infection in my foot, sat night it was burning like it was in a camp fire, Was in the hospital 6 hr got an x-ray and blood drawn and saw the Dr. for about 10 min. Sure am glad that I didn't have blood running out of me I would have bled out before I saw a Dr. OUR MEDICAL IN THE USA SUCKS.
how does it suck ? because you got the best medical profesionals in the world treating you ? because your foot is going to heal perfectly and you are still alive ?
micheal ? is that you ? mr moore ? i thought you were in cuba getting BETTER health care , haha0 -
Mr. None, please contact me off the forums. 0 -
HandgunHTR52
quote:Try going to Canada. That 6 hrs would have been 6 weeks.
And where are you getting your info?..0 -
quote:Originally posted by BlackRoses
HandgunHTR52
quote:Try going to Canada. That 6 hrs would have been 6 weeks.
And where are you getting your info?..
BR - I was not stating fact, I was trying to make a point. That point being that under socialized medicine, it would have taken him a lot longer to actually see a doctor.
A sore foot is not considered an emergency, therefore, he would have been refered to a GP. There is no telling how long it would have taken to actually be seen (get an appointment). Unless, however, the infection became so bad that the foot or his life was in danger.0 -
quote:Originally posted by nunn
Mr. None, please contact me off the forums.
how ?0 -
quote:Originally posted by None
quote:Originally posted by nunn
Mr. None, please contact me off the forums.
how ?
Go outside and holler really loud. Don0 -
quote:Originally posted by None
quote:Originally posted by nunn
Mr. None, please contact me off the forums.
how ?
Click on the little "Show Profile" icon where he posted. Then click on the "Send an e-mail" link.0 -
I have worked in Canadian hospitals for years...been in the hospitals as a patient a number of times as well and EVERYONE that comes into the emerg dept is seen by the drs...
I have never waited more than an hour, as a matter of fact there are signs posted all over the emerg dept stating if you have waited longer than 1/2 hour to please report again to the desk or tell the nurse that checks on you...and yes the nurses come to the waiting room to check on ppl there..0 -
I am a former ER Director of a small inner city General Hospital.
I empathize with your situation Chuck, and am not going to make excuses for the sorry state of many ER's - mine included.
We as part of the general public can do our part to alleviate an overburdened system by seeking alternate methods other than a crowded Emergency Room to treat illnesses other than life and limb threatening conditions.
May I offer as viable alternative the use of Primary Care Physicians and acute care centers? Many of them offer ancillary services, such as labs and X-rays, on extended working hours.0 -
americans are just becoming an ENTILTMENT nation. they believe it is their RIGHT to have FREE everything. nothing is free however. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by BlackRoses
I have worked in Canadian hospitals for years...
I thought you were from Florida?
When someone goes to a Canadian ER with a non-emergency, what is the procedure? Do they get treated, or just "seen"?0 -
June 23 my pup was hit by a car, at approx 7 PM, I went to aid him, he bit me, he knew no better.
We took him to the vet hospital, then I went to the ER, I arrived at
about 7:45, by 10:30 I was done, I had been given a IV with anti-biotics, x rays, and approximatly 15 stiches, my thumb nail was removed, and I had stiches in the nail bed, and the nail scrubbed and held in place with a stich, my index finger had tissue hanging out that should have been in.
I have nothing bad to say about the hospitals in my area.
This is the day after, back at the hospital, the ER doc requested I come in so he could check it.
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Speaking of that Don, did you ever find out who the SOB was that hit your buddy? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by HandgunHTR52
Speaking of that Don, did you ever find out who the SOB was that hit your buddy?
No,
I have scoured the neighborhood, if they are from around here they ditched the van[V]
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HandgunHTR52...
Everyone is treated...not just seen....
The "wait" that everyone keeps talking about is for elective surgeries...not surgeries that are needed asap...or right now...
And yes, I live in Florida and love it (except for the horrid hot humid weather in the summer) but I was born in Canada...Immigrated bout 10 years ago now...
Chuck..
What did they say about your foot?....0 -
If you don't like the medical care here in the U. S., leave. 0
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