Punishment for Concealed Weapon
does anyone know what the general punishment is for illegally carrying a concealed weapon. i heard in california it was a misdomeanor and first time offenders with a clean record got no jail time.
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There are 50 different ways that it's dealt with in the US ... it's a state issue. 0 -
I'm gonna file this under the "I don't care to find out" category.
Do it legal or not at all.0 -
yeah i dont want to find out either. but....if you live somewhere that doesnt allow CCW then it might be a good risk to take. better than risking death 0 -
look into peaceful journey laws. Carrying a handgun in your car, in your glove box say, is not illegal. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by SuburbanNoize
look into peaceful journey laws. Carrying a handgun in your car, in your glove box say, is not illegal.
is the glove box legal ?0 -
what state are you in? 0 -
here is Florida's car carry law, you can find yours at Packing.org
It is not necessary to have a license or permit to carry a loaded firearm in a private vehicle, so long as the gun is "securely encased". Florida law defines a weapon as being securely encased if the firearm is in a glove compartment, whether or not locked, in a snapped holster (not worn on your body!), in a zippered gun case or in a box or other container that requires a lid or cover to be lifted or opened in order to gain access to the firearm. These restrictions do not apply to any person who holds a valid Florida Concealed Weapon License or a reciprocal state license/permit.0 -
If I lived in California, I'd start digging a tunnel or looking for some other way to escape. 0 -
Some years ago - maybe 5 or 6 - my brother got busted after dropping me off at the Sacramento airport for carrying a Model 60 in his back Levis pocket.
They booked him and released him with a citation. At his court appearance, they gave him a misdemeanor 1 year probation and confiscated the revolver, never to be returned. But because he was an old, disabled vet, they did nothing else.
A lot of the punishment on issues like this, depends on the violator and the mood of the policeman.
I was driving my big ol' conversion van in East LA(the barrio) a little while later and got stopped for having Orygun tags in California. The policeman had me get out of the van, I told him that I had a Hi-Power in a shoulder rig under my jacket. He pulled his pistol and had me take the weapon out with 2 fingers and hand it to him. He had me lean with my hands against the van, ran wants and warrants, cleared the weapon, and when the clearance came back OK, returned it to me. Telling me that even though I had an Orygun CHL, I was not permitted to carry concealed in Ca. He sent me on my way with an "enjoy your stay here". No tickets and a smile.
It really depends a lot on your demeanor and the policeman's mood.
I was about 56 or 57, short hair, neatly trimmed beard, well dressed, respectfull and well spoken, with a very nice vehicle and an Orygun CHL. Even though those superficialities should not make any difference - they do.
Good luck.
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I simply don't advocate breaking the law, especially where firearms are concerned.
If you're going to have an excuse to violate carry laws, especially where carrying concealed is expressly forbidden, then it doesn't matter what I say, right?[;)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
I simply don't advocate breaking the law, especially where firearms are concerned.
If you're going to have an excuse to violate carry laws, especially where carrying concealed is expressly forbidden, then it doesn't matter what I say, right?[;)]
EMM, i with you broham, i was trying to help him not break the laws.0 -
Suburban,
You gave some good advice. Hopefully he listens to it.
I'm always of two thoughts when someone asks me how to break the law:
1) ENTRAPMENT
or
2) They're gonna do it anyway, so why should I open my mouth and encourage 'em?0 -
quote:Originally posted by SuburbanNoize
look into peaceful journey laws. Carrying a handgun in your car, in your glove box say, is not illegal.
That is not true for many states, better what what you tell people. Getting caught with one in your glove box in Maryland, loaded or not, will get you a trip to jail real quick. In MD, the gun has to be unloaded, locked up, and in an unaccessible part of the vehicle. The glove box doesn't count. And in D.C., forget it period. (Unless you happen to be Webb's assistant.)0 -
quote:Originally posted by SuburbanNoize
look into peaceful journey laws. Carrying a handgun in your car, in your glove box say, is not illegal.
Better not try that in NJ.
I respectfully suggest you be careful advising prople on legal matters.0 -
my second post informed him to check packing.org and anyone asking foe legal advice on line for free, deserves whatever happens to them. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by SuburbanNoize
look into peaceful journey laws. Carrying a handgun in your car, in your glove box say, is not illegal.
It depends on where you are. And if the gun is loaded or not or in a locked hard sided container. Even some cities have ordinances about guns in glove boxes. In the state of Kansas you can carry a gun in your glove box. In The city of Topeka it is illegal. I found out the hard way.0 -
In GA you can legally strap on a 44 mag in a holster and strut your stuff- but if you conceal it without a CC it's a felony. You can transport in your vehicle as long as it's in plain sight or securely locked away in glovebox. Most states allow you to lock the weapon in a secure place, unloaded, and store the ammo in a separate secure place, inaccessable to the driver.
That's the peaceable journey doctrine most states have- but don't try this in NYC or DC, You will be cold busted. I've treaveled all over the US and was challenged only one time, in VA. Dang NRA sticker caught the trooper's attention as he was explaining the error of my ways in going 69 in a 65, Let me off with a warning but asked about guns. I showed him my stash in a zippered case in the trunk, my ammo was in my range bag, also in the trunk.
He told me to have a nice day. [:)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
I simply don't advocate breaking the law, especially where firearms are concerned.
If you're going to have an excuse to violate carry laws, especially where carrying concealed is expressly forbidden, then it doesn't matter what I say, right?[;)]
Normally, I agree with you. However, sometimes a little civil disobedience is a good thing, especially when the Bill of Rights is being subverted. Now, while this sounds good on paper, it really is bravado. I would LOVE to be able to tell you that, in this case, principles have to come first. But at my current age, and in my line of work, I have to just go along. I like to think that when I get older, and have a little less to lose, I will have the fortitude to say to hell with unconstitutional gun laws, and engage in a bit of civil disobedience. Of course, I am "lucky" to live in a state like NC that not only allows me my Constitutional rights, but has a permit that is pretty widely accepted. If I lived in CA., my attitude might be very different. I guess this comes down to how much risk/consequence one is willing to accept.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
It really depends a lot on your demeanor and the policeman's mood.
Doug
So true. Of this and many other kinds of situations.0 -
quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
I simply don't advocate breaking the law, especially where firearms are concerned.
If you're going to have an excuse to violate carry laws, especially where carrying concealed is expressly forbidden, then it doesn't matter what I say, right?[;)]
Ever hear of the 2nd admendment?0 -
The problem with carrying a weapon illegally is:
If you're busted, you can never get a concealed handgun license.0 -
That is not true.
Doug0 -
That's what they teach in Texas CHL classes, Doug -- 0 -
i was mainly asking about if the punishment is worth the risk. and, taking into account how rare it would be for someone like myself to get caught. i havent even been pulled over by the cops in about 15 years. i dont have many friends so i am never with people who bring attention from the police.
maybe i just watch too many of those "most shocking" videos on tv and just cant stand the thought of being a victim of some thug and not being able to do anything about it because some liberals feel sorry for P.O.S like thugs.0 -
180 - I am pretty sure that you must be convicted, not just arrested. Also, most states have a method so that people who are convicted just once, may, after a time, have their record expunged, which should mean the same as "the incident never happened".
I could be wrong, though. There is a first time for everything.
Once again, I always carry, everywhere. I accept the risk versus the benefit.
Doug0 -
quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
Once again, I always carry, everywhere. I accept the risk versus the benefit.
Doug
Same here.0 -
Little off subject but I believe that if you have to pay for a permit to carry a firearm concealed, then it's not a right but a privilege. 0 -
ABSOLUTELY.
The RIGHT is God given.
But, for the moment, I'd rather not be locked up for exercising it.
Doug0 -
quote:Originally posted by Doug Wilson
180 - I am pretty sure that you must be convicted, not just arrested. Also, most states have a method so that people who are convicted just once, may, after a time, have their record expunged, which should mean the same as "the incident never happened".
I could be wrong, though. There is a first time for everything.
Once again, I always carry, everywhere. I accept the risk versus the benefit.
Doug
By "busted" -- I meant arrested and convicted. Sorry for the confusion.0 -
When I lived in CT, upon encountering routine traffic stops (checking D/L, Insurance, seatbelts, etc) I've always been asked "do you have any guns with you". Didn't think much of it. During one stop, howevwr, I was asked "are you carrying your handgun? It then dawned on me that running my license-tag must show that I was a licensed handgun permitee. Just a tidbit. Joe 0
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