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  • Permanently deleted user
    quote:Originally posted by Mk 19
    weather he is going to jail or not I do not know, what I do know is that I would love to have him move in next door.



    +1

    No better deterrant to crime.
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  • Rocklobster
    quote:Originally posted by minitruck83
    Didn't the original story have the guys running toward him when he fired? And didn't I also read where both had prior records? Or did I imagine all of that.

    Why the concern for the well being of thieves?
    When I was growing up a dose of rocksalt was considered a acceptable cure for trespassing. Not to mention the hideing you'ud get from dad for being on the other persons property in the first place if he found out about it! (never embarrass dad!) Several guys I grew up with have some scars from this and I can testify that it changed their(and mine after seeing what it did) outlook on helping themselves to a pocketfull of someone elses Apples.

    Times haven't changed for the better!



    Allen

    That's the story I heard. He told them to stop or he'd shoot, they came into his yard and made threatening moves. I believe I'd have fired too.
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  • leftytwoguns
    I am ashamed of how this man reacted. But still wouldn't mind a neighbor just like him. Does that make sense?
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  • Zebra
    He should have made a citizens arrest.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    quote:Originally posted by Zebra
    He should have made a citizens arrest.


    I think he tried...until they came at him...then he took care of business.
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  • redneckandy
    Is his community safer now? I think so.
    The robbery happened in the middle of the day, What if is neighbor had kids who were alone after getting home from school? He did state that he did not know his neighbors very well.
    Would you assume that anyone who is in the middle of a robbery is unarmed?
    He yelled "STOP.....I'LL KILL YOU"
    I don't think they were shot in the back(unsure though) but one was found on his property.
    If that was your house that was robbed what would say to him?
    While I wasn't there and I don't what happened, I do like knowing that some people will still watch out for their neighbor.
    Seems like theives are everywhere anymore, and I think we could stand to lose a few.
    Just what I think.
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  • kimi
    quote:Originally posted by Wrangler
    The original point of my post was that people were standing up to the race-baiting "activists." Quannel X is one of the biggest ones in the Houston area.

    C&P:

    http://www.chronicallybiased.com/index.php?itemid=479

    Who is Quanell X?
    By Owen Courr?ges

    In the wake of Quanell X's much-publicized arrest for evading arrest, many of you are probably wondering, "Who is this Quanell X guy, anyway?"

    Every Houstonian has probably seen Quannel X on the news at some time or another instigating some kind of protest. He's commonly called an "activist," although his credentials lend themselves more to the characterization of "hate-monger." His official position, however, is that of National Informational Minister for the New Black Panthers, a redux of the radical 60's group.

    If you want to make a case that monsters are not born, but made, then Quanell X will provide you with some valuable data. You see, Quanell Abdul Muhammad was born into a stable household on December 7th, 1970 (Pearl Harbor Day) in the City of Angels - Los Angeles. His parents were both members of the Nation of Islam, and both held down good jobs. His mother was a teacher, and his father owned a small business. All seemed well.

    The dream came crashing down when Elijah Muhammad, the founder of the Nation of Islam, died. Major changes were forthcoming.

    Imam W.D. Muhammad, Elijah's son, took over and began making 'reforms.' Among these was repudiating some of the racist overtones to the organization, especially its anti-Semitism. That was all well and good, but then he endorsed polygamy. This particular moral shift is what tore Quanell's family apart. His father brought his mother's best friend home to become his second wife, and his mother would have nothing of it. She abandoned the Nation of Islam along with their Muslim family name, and returned back to their 'slave name' - Evans.

    The Evans family also abandoned Los Angeles, moving eastward to Houston. Young Quanell eventually became a drug dealer, starting out with marijuana, and then moving up the proverbial ladder to crack.

    One day, however, Quanell X had a revelation upon seeing a speech by Louis Farrakhan, now the leader of the Nation of Islam. Farrakhan appealed to Quanell's deep-seeded prejudices. He largely rejected Muhammad's path of moderation, preaching a vitriolic race-hatred. For the youthful crack dealer, it was a very appealling philosophy.

    Upon joining the Nation of Islam, the newly-dubbed Quannel X quickly rose to become a spokesman. However, his over-the-top racist rhetoric continually got him in trouble. At the Gary Graham execution, for example, he said to Houston-area blacks that "f you feel that you just got to mug somebody because of your hurt and your pain, go to River Oaks and mug you some good white folks." This was not the kind of publicity that the Nation of Islam wanted, so they kicked him out.

    Not long after that, Quanell X joined up with the New Black Panthers, where he's basically been ever since. Yet despite his past and his current affiliations, Quanell remains a disturbingly influencial person. He's won kudos as a valuable voice in the community from City Councilwoman Ada Edwards. For a while, he was on the state payroll thanks to State Representative Ron Wilson (D-Houston). He even spoke before the Houston Area Young Republicans on one occassion. Political kryptonite he isn't.

    Perhaps with his arrest, Quanell X will finally become the utter outcast he deserves to be.




    That's a very important point too, Wrangler. May be that this shoving it back mentality will spread as fast as those California wildfires and continue to kowtow the scum!
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  • kimi
    quote:Originally posted by ECC
    quote:Originally posted by Zebra
    He should have made a citizens arrest.


    I think he tried...until they came at him...then he took care of business.


    I think that is it in a nutshell. He also acted as if he understood the law very well. And, he seemed bound and determind to act to that end and not let the perps get away. If he has acted within the law, I don't see a problem at all. And, to tell you the truth, if the law is such that it is that difficult to understand, then I do not see him getting convicted of a crime either.
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  • CapnMidnight
    Gather up all them bad boys and hang em from the highest tree. I think Willie Nelson said that. I think we all should get together a fund to by Mr Horn another gun.
    If I saw someone breaking into my neighbors house, and they came toward me after I told them to stop, betchyour a$$ I'd do for them, and wouldn't lose a minutes sleep over it either. We don't have much trouble where I live, because myself and a few other people have this same attitude, and the local bad boys know it.
    W.D.
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  • tsr1965
    quote:Originally posted by CapnMidnight
    Gather up all them bad boys and hang em from the highest tree. I think Willie Nelson said that. I think we all should get together a fund to by Mr Horn another gun.
    If I saw someone breaking into my neighbors house, and they came toward me after I told them to stop, betchyour a$$ I'd do for them, and wouldn't lose a minutes sleep over it either. We don't have much trouble where I live, because myself and a few other people have this same attitude, and the local bad boys know it.
    W.D.


    Actually that was Willie, and Toby Keith
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  • Permanently deleted user
    His life wasnt in danger, neither was his property or his family....


    I heard the name and also read the transcript, he was looking for a reason to kill them...
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  • Highball
    There should be no mystery about why America is becoming a third world Nation...steadily.
    Our values are vanishing..buried under tides of emotion and bleeding heart liberals.
    EVER so much emotional pleading for the lives of barbarians and scumbags..NO sympathy for the victims of these less-then-human predatators.
    Try to forget about the 'property' for just a moment, all you 'lives are so precious' types.
    iIt AIN'T THE PROPERTY..it about the RIGHT...the ABSOLUTE RIGHT..to be left alone. It is about the the fact that a mans' home is his castle..and when this mans neighbor left on vacation, he took the task on of looking after that neighbors property.
    A man gives his word..USED to mean something...before we become a nation of old women and cowards.

    Those that cannot seem to find a bit of relief that this man Horn rid the world of two useless bits of protoplasm lead me to believe that perhaps ethics and morals ride lightly upon THEIR souls..also.
    The ANSWER for all you bleeding hearts is rather simple..

    Instead of castigating those of us determined to regain and retain our Rights to be left alone..spend your time training your children and your friends that there are INDEED people that do not intend to allow themselves to be violated at will by scum.
    Horn did not make the decision to kill those two..THEY made the decision to die when they broke into the house.
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  • ObiWan
    Every American must stop terrorists.

    Those punks were terrorizing....and got what they deserved.

    No pity from this Yank.

    (don't tell anybody but I'm not a yank....I'm from the great State of Pennsyltucky...that's Pennsylvania without Pittsburgh and Philadelphia)
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  • tsr1965
    quote:Originally posted by Highball
    There should be no mystery about why America is becoming a third world Nation...steadily.
    Our values are vanishing..buried under tides of emotion and bleeding heart liberals.
    EVER so much emotional pleading for the lives of barbarians and scumbags..NO sympathy for the victims of these less-then-human predatators.
    Try to forget about the 'property' for just a moment, all you 'lives are so precious' types.
    iIt AIN'T THE PROPERTY..it about the RIGHT...the ABSOLUTE RIGHT..to be left alone. It is about the the fact that a mans' home is his castle..and when this mans neighbor left on vacation, he took the task on of looking after that neighbors property.
    A man gives his word..USED to mean something...before we become a nation of old women and cowards.

    Those that cannot seem to find a bit of relief that this man Horn rid the world of two useless bits of protoplasm lead me to believe that perhaps ethics and morals ride lightly upon THEIR souls..also.
    The ANSWER for all you bleeding hearts is rather simple..

    Instead of castigating those of us determined to regain and retain our Rights to be left alone..spend your time training your children and your friends that there are INDEED people that do not intend to allow themselves to be violated at will by scum.
    Horn did not make the decision to kill those two..THEY made the decision to die when they broke into the house.




    I totally agree. Think of it as a known hazzard that goes with the profession of which they had chose. just like a NASCAR driver, and Dale Earnhardt as an example. he knew that every time he buckled up, there might be a slight chance that he did not unbuckle.

    It should be a message to all crimanals, that if you do the crime, there are the chances it will be your last time.
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  • TrinityScrimshaw
    Thank God there is still a place like Texas where common sense prevails; not the Northern Yankee Liberal induced mind set of how things should be done everywhere.

    These counter protesters rock. I grew up in this area of Texas. My homies are not about to allow their communities be taken over by a bunch of race baiters like in Mississippi with the Jena six. This is the same mentality that will also get Mr. Horn No Billed by the grand jury in Harris County Texas.

    Due to the Castle Doctrine you now have a little more legal protection when it comes to protecting your property in Texas. Since September 1st of this year, you are no longer required to retreat when someone is on your property before using deadly force. Also, you have the presumption of innocence if someone is breaking into your car, office or home. At this point, it's unclear if it applies to a neighbor's home, however there are reports that these scumbags made a threatening advance towards Mr. Horn, and allegedly when he shot them they were on his property, not his neighbor's.

    Trinity +++
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  • Highball
    Put bluntly;
    Thank God there is still outposts where men can still be men..not required by law to be emasculated eunuchs.

    I get so utterly sick of the bleating over 'the human life..the inhumanity of it all' I could puke.
    One grieves over shooting a mad dog.
    Somewhat less emotion ought to be spared human dregs that make a conscious decision to violate your or yours.or your neighbor.
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  • whiteclouder
    quote:Originally posted by BlackRoses
    His life wasnt in danger, neither was his property or his family....
    I heard the name and also read the transcript, he was looking for a reason to kill them...


    So now you read minds, too? Yer a pistol, beth.

    Clouder..
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  • kimi
    Houston is a far cry from Jena - and CNN and Al and Jesse know it too, which is why their Islam bros were involved, IMO. The intimidators become the intimidated. It doesn't get any better than that.
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