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I was looking for something else and this image showed up and just had to post it.
The something else was fox news.[:o)]
The something else was fox news.[:o)]
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So me my dad and my grandpa were spliting wood, Firewood that is. Along comes a fox walking about 50 feet from where we were working no fear of use what so ever. My dad and grandpa were operating the spliter and I had the sledge freeing the wood up. No gun, just a 10 lb sledge. Well I chose to let the fox go on his merry way although it bothered me that he would not care we were there. 15 minutes later he comes back through with a bone. Someone is feeding the damn thing.
When we finished I looked at my dad and said we ought to go kill that fox. He did not understand. I tried to explain that have any animal that comfortable with humans just leads to problems. Ya the fox isnt causeing problems now but who knows. For now he lives, I never would of thought twice if we were behind the barn and it was a raccoon.0 -
Psssstt.....there is a rifle in the back of your truck. Coulda used it [:D] 0 -
bad idea to feed them if you ever get rabies in your area...foxes are just bad news anyway[xx(] 0 -
You have amazing powers of observation and deduction.
I doubt that in the same curcumstance, it would've occured to me that the fox needed to be killed.0 -
Some one might NOT be feeding it...it could be taking dog food....As for killing it??? why? did it hurt you?...come after you? kill any animal of yours? lunge at you? or just look at you the wrong way?
Comfortable with humans? 50 feet is hardly "comfortable" with humans....Could be hunger took over fear...0 -
quote:Originally posted by BlackRoses
Some one might NOT be feeding it...it could be taking dog food....As for killing it??? why? did it hurt you?...come after you? kill any animal of yours? lunge at you? or just look at you the wrong way?
Comfortable with humans? 50 feet is hardly "comfortable" with humans....Could be hunger took over fear...
50 feet is comfortable for a wild animal
I would kill it.
But to each their own.0 -
I have fed foxes, foxes that came into my yard, 10 feet is comfortable, 50 feet or even 25 if hungry enough? thats not comfortable, thats hunger..
I sometimes think there are some on here who kill just for the sake of killing...0 -
yehh...its just a cute fuzzy critter like we all see on the cartoons till it decides that your little grandkid who happened to slip out of your sight for a second is just a BISCUIT.... i don't need to kill animals but one has to consider reality 0 -
I'd kill the fox,50 ft is to close.Blackroses,someday your going to get bit and have rabies. 0 -
I was raised in the "woods"..went hunting with my father, accompanied him when he was guiding...operated my own resort on a lake where I worked very closely with the ministry of natural resources--wildlife dept in Ontario....
Fed foxes, raccoons, deer, bears porcupines etc...
Had chickens for food and eggs and never once lost one to a fox ...they were only lost their heads to my axe....Even after a forest fire when I was feeding a fox and babies, I never lost a chicken to a fox....and the foxes were coming up to the dogs dishes outside to get food....0 -
BR Im with you, thats like people who are shooting stray cats. Cant stand the people who shoot a stray cat just to kill something. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by frog21
I'd kill the fox,50 ft is to close.Blackroses,someday your going to get bit and have rabies.
Please. 50ft is too close for a bear maybe. Or perhaps a small critter acting aggressively. But just passin by?
I'm no PETA animal rights activist, but just because an animal get's close enough for you to see it, doesn't mean it's a threat that needs to be delt with.
That's just asinine.0 -
Foxes are EVERYWHERE...Even in urban areas.I used to work at "The Breakers Hotel" om the island of Palm Beach.Pretty heavily populated island,with bridges going over to it about every 4-5 miles.
On the property their are 3 HUGE "cottages" that the owners and their families use.One of them is where the Hotel Pres. and his family live in.Their has been a mated pair of foxes living under the porch of that cottage for years.Every 6 Mo. or so they have a litter of pups and the tiings run all over the golf course and the entire property. Animal care and control can't seem to capture them either.
Just thought that was a funny(strange) bit of info. to share with y'all.[:D]0 -
i'd befriend it, and have some awesome adventures together... 0 -
A log of questions about foxes listed at this site:http://www.ozfoxes.com/aafoxes.htm
All About Foxes! (...more or less)
PART 1: THE TECHNICAL BACKGROUND
The fox is a canid (family Canidae), distantly akin to coyotes, jackals, and wolves; but they are a distinct and separate animal, having formed their own genetic group 11-12 million years ago. They belong to the Order Carnivora and are indeed carnivores (meat-eaters); but they also eat fruits and grains, so by diet they are more properly omnivores... but that's a matter for taxonomists.
Foxes cannot cross-breed with dogs or other canids, having a different number of chromosomes. If you see a foxy-looking dog, that's exactly what it is: a dog with foxy features, not a dog-fox cross.
Foxes are distinctively shaped, with pointy muzzles, large ears, long thin bodies and long legs, and long bushy tails. The Red Fox (Vulpes vulpes) is typically the largest of all foxes, and is the type most people think of when they think "fox." Other widely known foxes include the Grey Fox (Urocyon cinereoarargenteus - aka "Tree Fox" because they can climb trees); the Arctic Fox (Alopex lagopus); and the ever-popular Fennec (Vulpes zerda - or Fennecus zerda, depending on your sources), the smallest of the foxes in spite of its huge ears. Foxes can be found in most parts of the world, like the African Bat-Eared Fox (Otocyon megalotis) and Cape Fox (Vulpes charma)... and thanks to the popularity of fox hunting among some British colonists, foxes can even be found in Australia!
Since Latin gets tiring, we'll drop it and concentrate mostly on our North American friend, the Red Fox.
The Red Fox usually features red-orange fur, a white tummy with white markings on its muzzle and on the tip of its tail, and black stockings on its legs. The pointed ears may be all black, or may be black-tipped; black markings on the muzzle are not uncommon. The Red Fox may sport a tawny yellow coat, or in some areas a silver or black coat. During the onset of Summer, the fox sheds his fur from underneath the newer coat, giving him a distinctively shaggy appearance which is often mistaken for mange. They shed this extra fur over a period of a couple of weeks and resume their svelte 'normal' appearance. With the coming of Winter, the fox's coat will grow thick and plush to help stave off the cold.
Foxes are family-oriented critters, often forming lifetime attachments when it comes time to raise young ones. During the rest of the year, however, the male (dog) fox and the female (vixen) live separately, mostly at the insistence of the highly territorial female. When Autumn rolls around and the vixen starts feeling amorous, she lets the male know by her scent marking, which changes to advertise her feelings on the matter. At this point the male will reappear and court the female, and will hang around through the Winter until the kids (kits) are born and the vixen can hunt for herself again. He will hang around into the early Spring to make sure they are well provided for, then take off for a Summer of fun and frolic.
The kits have a relatively easy life up to a point. The vixen feeds them and grooms them until they are reasonably mobile, then hunts small game and brings it back to the den so the young ones can learn and practice their hunting skills. Once they are grown and able to fend for themselves, however, Momma Vixen suddenly turns snarly and mean, and will chase them away to find their own territories - thus ensuring that a local disaster does not wipe out the entire next generation. Since it is the vixen who decides where she will raise her next family, it is not uncommon for one of the daughters to return home if Momma is gone, continuing the cycle in a familiar environment.
Foxes mostly eat small mammals and wounded birds, and are not above scrounging a meal from a garbage can if the pickings seem safe. Although foxes are infamous in stories and legend for raiding the hen house, most foxes prefer to avoid noisy prey and will not enter any situation that seems too suspicious. Similarly, foxes rarely attack dogs or cats - the former because they are noisy and likely to attract attention, the latter because they are armed and troublesome. A fox will usually fight off a dog only to protect its family, and only if there is no other choice. Most foxes prefer to lead a dog away from the den and into foreign territory, there to lose it and return without doing battle. (When family pets or small livestock do disappear, the culprit is often a coyote, a raccoon or another dog. The fox may enjoy a snack once the deed is done if there are leftovers, but will rarely go after anything that might sound an alarm.)
A fox appearing in your backyard or neighborhood does not automatically imply that the animal is rabid. Foxes are wary of humans, but will not fear them unless given a good reason. They can and do live near humans so long as they feel safe in doing so. A popular British series, FoxWatch, documented the lives of some urban foxes as they scurried about the streets and back alleys, raising a family in the crawlspace of an abandoned building.
However, under no circumstances should anyone try to pet a fox or any other wild animal. Foxes are highly susceptible to rabies, as are dogs and raccoons, and rabies is no joke. Any animal acting 'suspiciously' should be avoided, period!
So: that's the basic story of the fox. Following are questions that FoxWeb Friends have sent in over the years - so dig in and enjoy the continuing hunt for foxy info!
PART 2: FAQ INDEX0 -
the fox kills plenty field mice, and gives me no problems , he can stay[;)] 0 -
Are you nuts?
Excuse me if i'm wrong, but if i forget everything ive ever been learned, Id hope to remember a few things, one of them, is what dad taught me young. Don't kill, or aim your gun for that matter, at ANYTHING unless you intend to eat it.
Im with BR.0 -
The only foxes I am confortable with aren't found in biker bars at midnight, nor in the woods behind my house (17 acres in boonies) but were made in Phila. PA from l906 through 1929-then moved to Utica-NY when Stevens-Savage bought the Co. out. In my opinion, the older Fox doubles were the best American made boxlock ever- just as the older pre-l960 Winchester Model 12's were the best repeating shotgun ever made anywhere- That being said, I am a very serious varmint shooter, I hunt like a sniper- my two "pet" varmint rifles are: A Pre-Garcia Sako Forrester in .243Win with custom stock and Timney match trigger, and a older Win. Model 54 Super Grade my Dad bought for woodchucks in l935-26" stainless barrel, .220 Swift cal. As the M54 preceeded the reknown Model 70 (came out in l936) Dad sent it back to Winchester in l940 and they mopdified it with the M70 style bolt and bolt release, and the M70 style safety- I replaced the older Stith scope and installed a Timney match grade trigger when he gave it to me in l977. Both "dingers" wear Leupold VariPower scopes in Buehler mounts and rings- if you believe that you can judge a wookman by his tools, as I was taught, then you know Iam killing:woodchucks, coyotes, foxes, crows etc. with some "el primo" weapons- Our area CO's following the rule of "chcikenpoop regs"- I was cited this past Oct. while hunting ducks on private land (all my duck regs were in order- 3 shot plug in my M12 3" Mag- steel shot, two dead mallards against a 6 bird daily limit- but a coyote came in during mid-morning to snack on a deer carcass- he never saw me, and I put a Mag load of No. 2 steel shot into his right ear- Because I didn't change from my camo into a blaze orange cap, and didn't have a furbearers license, I got a citation- which my attorney beat in court, but what a crock- "Kill 'em all, let PETA sort 'em out later.
I spent 12 years as an Armorer USMC, specialized in building sniper rifles- Lock and Load..0 -
Kill it while the fur is still prime. It would make a nice wall hanger. 0 -
Ok I knew this would get some attention. I left a few things out as well. This fox had no chance of making the winter in the summer it was a mange case like no other. He isnt in good physical condition making it off of people. Normally I would have no problem but others in the neihborhood do have grandkids young ones. I have a nephews 4-6. This is somewhat on the edge of a city. Front yard is city limit backyard and surronding timber is not. While skunks are the biggest carriers of rabies foxes do as well.
Another thing I left out, I am a Wildlife Biologist. As much as I love furry critters ones that rely on humans for food are bad news.
Only good thing about having this guy around as he has killed off most of the stray cats. Makes less work for me. Stray cats are another story you think they are all fuzzy and warm hearted pick one up sometime. Do some research on feral cats sometime too you might learn somthing as well.0 -
BR here...
I kinda thought there would be more added when the thread turned to letting it live....0 -
I would be in the let it live group.
I would love to have a wild fox roaming my property.
I would almost have to believe anyone frightened or feel in danger from a fox would probably be afraid of their own shadow.
What is a fox weight? about 15 lbs?0 -
Little less then a beagle. No pun intended 0 -
On the other hand if I felt it was best to kill a nuisance fax I would not blink an eye about doing so.
And I do not believe you have to eat everything you kill.
That is the stupidest thing ever started.
There are several as valid reasons to kill an animal.0 -
You are getting into a big nightmare there MVP.
Some people are not going to agree with you others will either way it turns out to be a big pissing contest and everyone is going to be pissed off.0 -
Yes there are reasons to kill nuisance animals...but the fox in his original post did nothing more than walk by with a bone.....
quote: This is somewhat on the edge of a city. Front yard is city limit backyard and surronding timber is not.
And your point is?....I live not far off US 19....busy busy highway, ....stores, plazas, malls, bars etc, and yet there are raccoons, foxes, possums, armadillos... city limits or not, they will be there...
As for killing feral cats, if that is what it is doing so be it....but I find it rather unlikely as a cat will climb a tree, will a fox?....0 -
You are correct classic. The feral cat killing by the fox is more than acceptable.
My other grandparents place had a pair a while back. They were seen outside several times from indoors. They hunted out the tree rodents and rabbitts and moved on.0 -
quote:Originally posted by chrishiher
You are getting into a big nightmare there MVP.
Some people are not going to agree with you others will either way it turns out to be a big pissing contest and everyone is going to be pissed off.
If they would read history of when people actually lived or died as hunters they would know that the skins of animals used in clothing and shelter from the weather was as important if not more so than the food that was derived from the kill.
If the humans could not survive the weather the food would not be worth a damn laying there with all the dead people.
Biblically speaking God also killed an animal in the Garden to cloth Adam and Eve and there is no mention of God killing an animal to feed them.
Me as a licensed trapper in WA state, where trapping has been pretty much banned, I know the benifits to the killing of edible animals, fur bearing animals and also nuisance animals.0 -
History it seems is greatly overlooked no matter what. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Classic095
as a cat will climb a tree, will a fox?....
Yes, a grey fox will climb a tree. Don0
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