E-Bay Boycott
There is a Boycott from the 18th to the 25th of this Month to protest E-Bay ripping off the Sellers and protecting bad Buyers.
They want to force all Sellers to accept Pay-Pal or another Credit Card type Account and the Seller can no longer leave bad Feed Back on a Deadbeat Buyer.Join Us.
They want to force all Sellers to accept Pay-Pal or another Credit Card type Account and the Seller can no longer leave bad Feed Back on a Deadbeat Buyer.Join Us.
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I promise not to shop on E-bay from the 18th to the 25th.
However I should point out that is unlikely that I will ever buy anything from ebay prior to, or after your protest dates.
I love a good noble cause with a start and finish date.0 -
i will be glad when e rip goes flop, heard google is going to start something. gunbroker needs to open a general auction side 0 -
Two thumbs up. Ebay is a glorified garage sale without the good prices. 0 -
quote:They want to force all Sellers to accept Pay-Pal or another Credit Card type Account and the Seller can no longer leave bad Feed Back on a Deadbeat Buyer.
What is your source for this?0 -
I cannot imagine they would actually try to impose the rules you discuss. For one thing, ebay owns PayPal and requiring that payment from might be illegal under anti-trust laws. Also, why wouldn't sellers be able to leave appropriate feedback for bad buyers?
This doesn't sound right.0 -
Done!! 0 -
I'll go one better. I won't do any business with them. 0 -
My PayPal account got hacked (probably by a disgruntled employee) a few months ago. No, I didn't respond to all of those PayPal phishing emails that are easily recognizable. I got my money back within 48 hours from my bank after I reported the fraud. Then PayPal credited my bank account a couple months later when their investigation was complete and the bank got their money back.
Consequently, PayPal and Ebay (who owns PayPal) want me to fill out some long-winded document and provide copies of multiple forms of ID to prove who I am before they'll let me back into my PayPal and Ebay accounts. Well, needless to say, my accounts can't be accessed by ANYONE until I do this. Too bad for Ebay and PayPal. I'll never be using their services again. They couldn't guarantee me the security of their services so why the heck would I give them copies of my identification? Screw that. Let em suffer.0 -
Per the email I received from them, eBay is not changing any of it's payment choices. They are making some changes in feedback, reducing some listing fees and increasing some sales fees (percentage after the sale). Most of the changes being made is eBay's way of "kissing the a$$ of the Power Sellers". 0 -
Come on guys!! I own several shares of Ebay. You are killing me. Tom 0 -
quote:Originally posted by dogtown tom
quote:They want to force all Sellers to accept Pay-Pal or another Credit Card type Account and the Seller can no longer leave bad Feed Back on a Deadbeat Buyer.
What is your source for this?
Final value fees are increasing from 5.25% to 8.75%.
http://pages.ebay.com/sell/update08/basic/index.html#insertion0 -
quote:Originally posted by SaxonPig
why wouldn't sellers be able to leave appropriate feedback for bad buyers?
This doesn't sound right.
A QUOTE from their site.......
quote:Sellers will no longer be able to leave negative or neutral Feedback for buyers. This change will occur in May, 2008.
http://pages.ebay.com/services/forum/new.html0 -
That strikes me as stupid but yahoo for buyers. Jerk the sellers around all you want and they can't do squat.
Ebay must be feeling VERY confident that sellers have no where else to go.
That thing was a brilliant idea but like the Roman Empire it may get too large and full of itself and finally implode.0 -
I can't help but note thae fact that there are as many bad seller as buyers... maybe more!! 0 -
E-Bay sucks.... I closed all my accounts after the ban from the VT tragedy. Closed my buyer account and never looked back... Piss on E-bay.
Gunbroker Inc. Rules!!!!0 -
you better hope you have cash at the gun show because they don't take checks 0 -
I don't generally like "boycotts" but this one sounds legit, count me in..... I'm OFF Ebay and won't even look at items during that period. 0 -
what a potty mouth 0 -
ebay use to be an auction site. whenever you give more power to the buyer, it becomes reatil.
at real auctions, you must abide by the auction/seller rules. when the hammer falls, its yours. dont like it? too bad.
in retail, if you dont like it, you bring it back and refund it and sellers must abide by established commerce rules.
retail and auctions are not the same.
little by little, fleebay has become full RETAIL, where the shopper is king, not the little guy selling his basement junk.
flebay is the reason i prefer here.........
http://browse.bidville.com/browse/?index=7&uid=159836
at least here, they treat us like humans.0 -
quote:Originally posted by mp5shooter
what a potty mouth
Oh please!0 -
You might check out tias.com. They have a long way to go, but it is an alternative to Fleabay.
PS. Have I ever said how annnnnnnnnnnnoying those stupid images are that some of you use as signature lines? Can't we get the admin. to ban those.0 -
quote:Originally posted by drsck
You might check out tias.com. They have a long way to go, but it is an alternative to Fleabay.
PS. Have I ever said how annnnnnnnnnnnoying those stupid images are that some of you use as signature lines? Can't we get the admin. to ban those.
Have you not learned you can turn them off?0 -
try here. its the best alternate.
http://browse.bidville.com/browse/?index=7&uid=159836
they havent gotten stupid yet and they work much faster with less red tape.0 -
Ebay protects "bad buyers"? Exactly what is a bad buyer anyway?
In my experience, Ebay protects bad sellers as well. I've had several instances with questionable if not outright dishonest seller practices. And Ebay did 0 to help.
Bought a Poineer stereo. Received it and it didn't work. Seller said send it back. THEN DECIDED TO CHARGE ME TO FIX IT. I wanted my money back.
Ebay refused to ANYTHING and I eventually paid to have the stereo repaired BY THE SELLER, in order to get SOMETHING out of the deal.
In another case they even closed my case before the deadline.0 -
From the E-Bay site.
***A Message from Jim Ambach - More Details for Sellers***
January 29, 2008 | 06:16AM PST/PT
Jim Ambach
Hello...This is Jim Ambach, VP of Seller Experience. Bill Cobb shared a number of important changes that eBay is making to the marketplace. For sellers, consistently great service will make the difference in 2008. Because a seller's performance is more critical than ever, as Bill mentioned, we will be giving all sellers a tool to help them monitor their own performance called the Seller Dashboard.
I'd like to offer more detail about seller standards.
More on Seller Standards
Bill spoke about great sellers - specifically, these are sellers who provide buyers with an experience that consistently means:
* Describing items well
* Communicating with buyers effectively
* Shipping items quickly
* Charging fair and accurate shipping costs.
I'm sure most of you recognize these criteria, as they are exact ones we use in our Detailed Seller Ratings (DSRs). As Bill made clear, great sellers will receive new rewards and economic incentives in the form of increased exposure in Best Match search, plus discounted pricing and other benefits for PowerSellers who qualify.
In contrast, Bill also mentioned new requirements to discourage bad seller behavior. I'd like to clarify what we mean.
While the vast majority of eBay sellers do the right thing, a relatively few sellers create a high percentage of dissatisfied customers. At eBay, we consider a buyer dissatisfied if:
* The buyer leaves a 1 or 2 DSR rating on any of the attributes
* A seller get complaints from buyers about items being "significantly not as described" or "item not received"
* A seller receives negative or neutral feedback from the buyer.
If a seller has any of these activities in the last 30 days, these will cumulatively count as dissatisfied customers for that seller. We then calculate what percentage dissatisfied customers represent of a seller's total customers.
As Bill said, sellers with a high percentage of buyer dissatisfaction will receive reduced visibility in Best Match search. Also, because excessive shipping and handling continues to be one of the biggest pain points for buyers, sellers with the worst DSRs for shipping and handling charges will see a decrease in their listings exposure, as well.
For more details, please read our Seller Standards information page and FAQ.
Safe Payments Requirements
Last January, Bill announced that all new sellers would be required to offer PayPal or a merchant credit card as a safe payment option. This requirement gives buyers a higher degree of protection when transacting with sellers who have little or no track record.
This year we're expanding this requirement to the following sellers:
* a small number of sellers who have the worst buyer dissatisfaction rates
* sellers with less than 100 feedback
* sellers who list in certain categories with higher rates of buyer complaints.
Also, for a small number of these transactions paid with PayPal, when eBay suspects the transaction may result in a dissatisfied customer, PayPal will delay release of the payment funds to the seller until the buyer has left a positive feedback or 21 days have passed without a dispute.
I'd like to put context around this last detail for our good sellers: Sellers with an established track record and more than 95 percent satisfied buyers in the last 30 days will not have funds held. And, sellers on eBay will continue to receive the vast majority of payment funds much faster than other marketplaces.
Summing it all up
Sellers, we know we've introduced a lot of changes. Each change supports our goal to improve the buying experience so that eBay is known as a place for value and selection from sellers that buyers can trust. But we can't do it alone. Your actions in creating that great buying experience are critical to making eBay.com a better place for the entire community.
Let's take a quick look at all the things we're doing to strengthen our partnership with our sellers:
1. Reducing insertion fees
2. Free Gallery . on all listings!
3. Reduced Feature Plus and Pro Pack fees
4. Increased listing exposure for sellers with great DSRs
5. Pricing discounts for PowerSellers with great DSRs
6. Protection from chargebacks for PowerSellers
7. All addresses are confirmed addresses for PowerSellers on their eBay listings that are paid with PayPal
8. Unlimited PayPal protection for PowerSellers
9. Repeat Feedback credit
10. Rolling 12-month Feedback Percentage
11. Personalized Seller Dashboard
Please find more details on these changes by going to our Overview page. Also, I'll be part of the leadership panel at Bill Cobb's next Town Hall on Monday, February 4th, and I hope you'll listen and call in with your questions.
Sincerely,
Jim Ambach
Vice President, Seller Experience0 -
bleen ebay 0 -
They're increasing final value fees but giving discounts only to "Power Sellers". They obviously don't want small sellers any longer. 0 -
He forgot to mention the huge increase in final sales fee charges that some power sellers claim will cost them thousands a year.
Where does all that extra money go???
Kacheeng, in eBay's pocket.
I do hope eBay has given the reasoning for a competing online auction of similar size as that will benefit the community more than eBay just making even more money in their monopoly field.
Wulfmann0 -
quote:Originally posted by SaxonPig
I cannot imagine they would actually try to impose the rules you discuss. For one thing, ebay owns PayPal and requiring that payment from might be illegal under anti-trust laws. Also, why wouldn't sellers be able to leave appropriate feedback for bad buyers?
This doesn't sound right.
Yes, it's Almost True: they aren't forcing you to use paypal, but you will find that it's very convenient to use it and very inconvenient not to. like your social security number being used for an ID number. hey you don't have to give it out to anyone, but try getting a job, a driver's license or a place to live without one.
they also will not let you use cash, western union, and up until recently, bidpay because it's "not safe".
That strikes me as stupid but yahoo for buyers. Jerk the sellers around all you want and they can't do squat.
yep. there are other companies that do that too. shouldn't be surprising.
Ebay must be feeling VERY confident that sellers have no where else to go.
they must.
That thing was a brilliant idea but like the Roman Empire it may get too large and full of itself and finally implode.
that may very well be the case.
There is a Boycott from the 18th to the 25th of this Month to protest E-Bay ripping off the Sellers and protecting bad Buyers.
They want to force all Sellers to accept Pay-Pal or another Credit Card type Account and the Seller can no longer leave bad Feed Back on a Deadbeat Buyer.Join Us.
thank you very much for that info, I sell tons of stuff on ebay, I just got through seling 400 items that ended the other day, I was going to relist & put up more stuff but now I'll put it all on hold for the boycott. otherwise I wouldn't have known anything about it. thanks again.0 -
I would rather sell my stuff here on GB, but damn! who's going to go to GB to buy a toaster etc?? it wouldn't sell, or very cheaply cuz there are few bidders for everyday stuff. lets face it, this is gunbroker, not toasterbroker. 0
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