WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE ARE UNARMED?
what do you think would happen if we were?
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we would cease to be citizens, and would become slaves. 0 -
you would do what you were told by your politicians ....or else! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by dan kelly
you would do what you were told by your politicians ....or else!
or else?0 -
quote:Originally posted by quickmajik
quote:Originally posted by dan kelly
you would do what you were told by your politicians ....or else!
or else?
BANG! Right in the top of your skull cap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!0 -
quote:Originally posted by Beeramid
quote:Originally posted by quickmajik
quote:Originally posted by dan kelly
you would do what you were told by your politicians ....or else!
or else?
BANG! Right in the top of your skull cap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not a very nice thought. dou you really think uncle sam would carry out civilian exicutions?0 -
quote:Originally posted by quickmajik
quote:Originally posted by Beeramid
quote:Originally posted by quickmajik
quote:Originally posted by dan kelly
you would do what you were told by your politicians ....or else!
or else?
BANG! Right in the top of your skull cap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not a very nice thought. dou you really think uncle sam would carry out civilian exicutions?
They won't be openly called executions, but something more along the lines of "cleansings."0 -
so whats the plan too keep this from happening? 0 -
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isnt this a m3 not an m1?0 -
or else?
I will NOT be disarmed!! Maybe dead ... but NOT disarmed!!0 -
I long ago made the decision to no longer resist gun laws by begging politicians to "please don't pass any more".
No ..this country needs a cleansing of garbage, people that have no love of and no concept of freedom.
I believe the only way to accomplish this is for those in power to finally pass that final law banning firearms.
Americans.men.will then resist in the only way tyrants understand ..just as our forefathers did.
Cowards, Quislings, fellow travelers to the Beast, sycophants and the general garbage that infests America will submit.
That will allow those of us watching and fighting for freedom the opportunity to separate those types out.and ship them to some deserted desert after we take America back.0 -
quote:Originally posted by quickmajik...not a very nice thought. dou you really think uncle sam would carry out civilian exicutions?
When have they stopped?
Wounded Knee.
Kent State.
Ruby Ridge.
Waco.
Any of a thousand bits of "no knock" jackbootery that ended up in a civilian death...
Meh.
They can take my guns. I WILL MAKE MORE.
http://www.thehomegunsmith.com/index.shtml0 -
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The same thing that has happened in our Nations Capitol, Washington DC... They have no guns there what so ever. Homes etc..
MURDER CAPITOL OF THE COUNTRY0 -
catpealer111 "not a very nice thought. Do you really think uncle sam would carry out civilian executions?" Without resistance I believe they would in a heart beat. While there are many injustices in our country that need to be corrected I believe the armed citizens are the ONLY thing preventing our government from elliminate ALL our freedoms and controlling EVERY aspect of our lives. 0 -
your children will be fed to wolves, your woman will be raped and you will be tortured and forced to slave labor. I know kinda silly, but would you stop it [:X] 0 -
WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE ARE UNARMED?
It will not matter to me because they will be prying my musket from my dead hands !0 -
Could we stop it?
Military style weapones are the gun banners first targets, and they have already stopped sale of the high caps mags to civilians once. God forbid it, but you can't fight a modern army with deer rifles and your daddies bird gun.0 -
quote:Originally posted by quickmajik
Could we stop it?
Military style weapones are the gun banners first targets, and they have already stopped sale of the high caps mags to civilians once. God forbid it, but you can't fight a modern army with deer rifles and your daddies bird gun.
Well, I gather people that need 100 round mags better LEARN to hit what they shoot at then. Semi auto's are better for CQC and bolt guns are better for field use IMO. Shotguns are also useful for CQC and SHORT range combat. Perhaps not what you idealy WANT, but a battle COULD be fought without hi-cap magizines.
Hone your skills.0 -
my skills are honed. I was taught on bolt rifles and pop's shotgun, but for combat against a modern force they are not ideal weapons. They have niches and fill them well, and tactically speacking you could win a fight force on force. Honestly though how many tacticians do you know that could play to those strenghts. Fire superioirity wins most fights. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by quickmajik
my skills are honed. I was taught on bolt rifles and pop's shotgun, but for combat against a modern force they are not ideal weapons. They have niches and fill them well, and tactically speacking you could win a fight force on force. Honestly though how many tacticians do you know that could play to those strenghts. Fire superioirity wins most fights.
Spray and pray is NOT a winning tactic in my book.
Hitting your target EVERY TIME is.
You will find, elite forces have LITTLE use for full auto fire. It is a waste of ammo, and it serves no purpose eliminating your target, as you can't fire full auto and hit what your aiming at (E.G. a single human size target).
You think wars were only won by semi/full auto weapons?
Consider the Revolutionary war. Ours were outnumbered GREATLY, by a supposed "superior" army. We won because WE hit what we aimed at (not how much lead we could put downrange), and because we fought with intellegence.0 -
You are right in every respect. It is simply this, I am not an advocate of spray and pray, but more ammo in you weapones mag means more chances to hit that enemy down range before reloads, it means that you can offer supression fire while your buddy with a bolt rifle takes out your enemy. there is a houndred more reasons for us too have those weapones and there capabilities in warfare, along side good bolt guns and shotguns. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by quickmajik
You are right in every respect. It is simply this, I am not an advocate of spray and pray, but more ammo in you weapones mag means more chances to hit that enemy down range before reloads, it means that you can offer supression fire while your buddy with a bolt rifle takes out your enemy. there is a houndred more reasons for us too have those weapones and there capabilities in warfare, along side good bolt guns and shotguns.
AND I am not saying hi-cap semi autos shouldn't be owned, or have a place in our country. My point being, BE PREPARED for whatever life throws at you. IF, for some odd reason, we couldn't buy/own hi-cap semi autos, be prepared to change your "plan".
And if I ever owned any of those evil guns, I would probably own one or three hi-cap semi autos and a truck load of mags. IF I did own any that is.0 -
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Has anyone taken into consideration how many EX military folks are in the general population? I was taught to shoot (really shoot) by Uncle Sam himself. If you can't see me and my WWII 8mm, you can't shoot me. Our country was founded on unethical tactics. Practice 3 200 yard shots then run like hell, live to shoot another day.[;)] 0 -
Sorry regerge, I havent taken ex-mil. folks into my calculations. I figured most would be called upon in reserve. I guess you and your comrades have sacrificed more for freedom then I could comprehind. Those guys are the leaders a punitive force would need too win. 0 -
america will never be unarmed. though we may be required to turn in grandads old double barrel for the "betterment of society". i for one would like to think that there are enough people with a backbone left in this country to see to it that things were set right. and i agree with highball that mabye a outright ban would be in this coutries best interest. i cant think of anything that would band those precious few together for the common good more strongly. 0 -
no great revolt happened in '94. 0 -
sorry in 94 i was 12 years old. though i had a love for firearms i was not concerned with any of this. that was when the brady bill passed though correct?? banning the hicap mags?? 0 -
Since we are speaking hypothetically...
How many standing military are there in this nation? 500,000? Let's say a million to be sure.
How many reserve and guard? Another million? Let's say 2,000,000 just in case.
How many law enforcement? 5,000,000? 10,000,000?
Let's assume that all of these groups would actively enforce the will of a tyrannical regime bent of disarming Americans and denying our rights. In fact, let's estimate that this regime has 15,000,000 soldiers ready to fight.
How many armed citizens are there throughout this nation? Minimum 50,000,000? That would be 1 out of 6 Americans. Let's say only a third are willing to actively fight this tyrannical regime(using Revolutionary War percentages), so that is about 16,000,000 on our side.
Again hypothetically, how many of the 15,000,000 on their side would have to die before they would give up? Our casualties don't matter because the media isn't on our side anyway. If modern wars were won by body count then Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq would just be obscure countries on the other side of the globe.
In Iraq I believe we have about 250,000 troops. About 1% of that number have been killed thus far and it is already considered a lost war by over half of the general population.
So back to our hypothetical... we have more soldiers than they do, but they have better arms. But if we can kill 150,000 of them then we can probably get them to give up. Are grandpa's rifle, molotov cocktails, bleach bombs, and IEDs up for the task? Don't forget the trucks full of fertilizer, and the folks that do actually have those Barret .50 BMGs and the Class 3 guns. Even if they came to seize them, they wouldn't find them all.
At some point the shooting will start.0 -
This is a different fight, they will loose everything if we win, therefore they will fight too the last man. 0
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