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  • jimdeere
    Good luck, Ken.
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  • Marc1301
    Good luck Ken,...I hope you sleep more than I did during mine. I manged to squeak out two hours according to the EEG readings. They said enough happened to make a determination in that short of a period of time.

    Try to relax and drop off!
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  • bustedknee
    You WILL be prescribed a CPAPS.

    You may as well skip their silly tests and just buy the machine. They have never tested anyone that did not need it. :lol:

    Its one of the biggest income generators in the medical industry today. Hahahahahahaha.
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  • montanajoe
    • Community moderator
    Good luck
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  • shootuadeal
    bustedknee wrote:
    You WILL be prescribed a CPAPS.

    You may as well skip their silly tests and just buy the machine. They have never tested anyone that did not need it. :lol:

    Its one of the biggest income generators in the medical industry today. Hahahahahahaha.

    That's probably correct but 2 points:

    1. Just about everyone I know that has one says they would never go without one again.

    2. You can't just buy a machine and it works, they have to set the pressure specific to each person based on their issues.
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  • KenK/84Bravo
    Have already been told this the preliminary test. Next test is to determine what type of machine and setting is appropiate.
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  • buschmaster
    your lack of sleep is because you don't work yourself hard enough during the day. your body says "I haven't accomplished enough". chop some logs until your arms are sore, run a few miles, hammer a whole bunch of nails, move a pile of lumber around the yard, and when it's time to go to bed, make love to your wife. you'll fall asleep right away.

    problem is you have to do it every day. but your wife will be happy.
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  • KenK/84Bravo
    buschmaster wrote:
    your lack of sleep is because you don't work yourself hard enough during the day. your body says "I haven't accomplished enough". chop some logs until your arms are sore, run a few miles, hammer a whole bunch of nails, move a pile of lumber around the yard, and when it's time to go to bed, make love to your wife. you'll fall asleep right away.

    problem is you have to do it every day. but your wife will be happy.

    Brother, work is super intense and strenuous. Not working myself hard enough during the day, is NOT my problem. I earn every dime.
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  • ChrisStreett
    Wish you well my friend. Let us know how you make out.
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  • KenK/84Bravo
    Thanks Chris.

    I probably need to log off and see if I can fall asleep.

    Night all.
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  • pulsarnc
    You will fall in love with your machine!
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  • Brookwood
    Quote; "2. You can't just buy a machine and it works, they have to set the pressure specific to each person based on their issues."

    Well then! I recon that my decision not to borrow a used CPAP machine from my brother last year was a good one! :)
    I was more concerned about sharing his germs than anything else. I know I need to get myself checked out by the medical pro's, as I have been told that my snoring is akin to a hibernating bear! :shock:

    My wife of over 45 years has never complained as she has found my nightly rhythm's to be very tranquil! :o

    Ken, I hope all goes well for you and you find relief for your sleep apnea!
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  • Marc1301
    shootuadeal wrote:
    bustedknee wrote:
    You WILL be prescribed a CPAPS.

    You may as well skip their silly tests and just buy the machine. They have never tested anyone that did not need it. :lol:

    Its one of the biggest income generators in the medical industry today. Hahahahahahaha.

    That's probably correct but 2 points:

    1. Just about everyone I know that has one says they would never go without one again.

    2. You can't just buy a machine and it works, they have to set the pressure specific to each person based on their issues.
    Actually that's not quite true. You can buy your own 'Autoset' type machine, and download software to read the charts on the SD card. After a week or two of letting the machine ramp up and down according to need, you simply dial in your pressures based on the information contained in the recorded charts. Getting into the clinical settings menu on most of these machines is quite simple.

    Not saying it's the smartest thing to do, just saying it can be done.
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  • hillbille
    fellow in room beside me turned out to be my brother-in-laws brother. he was turned down,not once but twice. saw him the other day at Lowes, he still doesn't have one, but says his wife/kids can hear him in next room. and for the record he has good insurance retired from GE, and also has VA coverage was in Nam, so insurance/money is not issue, did say the VA was sending him for his next test, not outside insurance, guess it has been causing him health issues
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  • Mobuck
    Just more "stuff" thought up as a way to suck more money from the public and/or insurance companies. Humans slept for thousands of years w/o these "life support devices" but now it's darned near a requirement??
    Not me. My hunting partner in 2017 used one of the night time puffers and although his sleep may have been improved, mine sure as heck wasn't. We had a 2 bed space at hunting camp and the cook in the next room had a puffer also. Poor me had ear plugs jammed deep and still couldn't sleep for all the huff and puff. I don't see much diff between a puffer and the normal wall shaking snoring that I was subjected to in 2018 when I took a different guy hunting.
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  • hillbille
    Mobuck wrote:
    Just more "stuff" thought up as a way to suck more money from the public and/or insurance companies. Humans slept for thousands of years w/o these "life support devices" but now it's darned near a requirement??
    Not me. My hunting partner in 2017 used one of the night time puffers and although his sleep may have been improved, mine sure as heck wasn't. We had a 2 bed space at hunting camp and the cook in the next room had a puffer also. Poor me had ear plugs jammed deep and still couldn't sleep for all the huff and puff. I don't see much diff between a puffer and the normal wall shaking snoring that I was subjected to in 2018 when I took a different guy hunting.
    old one my wife had was noisy both ways on inhale and the exhale, the new one I have is the same type as her new one, they are quiet as normal breathing.... and I would take them over the wall shaking snoring any time
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  • ruger41
    What some of you guys don?t realize is sleep apnea can kill you. It?s not just about stopping snoring. You aren?t BREATHING. I was not getting restful sleep and snoring something awful. But I was also stopping breathing hundreds of times a night. I love my machine for sleeping now. Yes it?s weird to start using it. Takes about 2 weeks to get used to it but then you won?t want to sleep without it again. And if you snore your wife will be able to sleep better.
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  • KenK/84Bravo
    ruger41 wrote:
    What some of you guys don?t realize is sleep apnea can kill you. It?s not just about stopping snoring. You aren?t BREATHING. I was not getting restful sleep and snoring something awful. But I was also stopping breathing hundreds of times a night. I love my machine for sleeping now. Yes it?s weird to start using it. Takes about 2 weeks to get used to it but then you won?t want to sleep without it again. And if you snore your wife will be able to sleep better.




    Thanks Brother. The nay sayers, can go twist in the wind. Why would I NOT utilize modern medical technology to solve a debilitating problem and consequently a Life threatening situation?

    YVMD.

    Last night was a long, long night. Being in an uncomfortable (15-20 wires with leads taped all over, two nose monitors, etc.) and in a strange environment - it took me much longer to initially fall asleep. (1.5 - 2 hrs.) It was further complicated by an overnight bout of diarrhea. (Perfect.) Had to get up 3 times overnight to deal with that. Having to get disconnected each time in order to do so. :?

    I finally got up for the (3rd) last time, and asked him what time it was? "4:50 am." Well that is past what time I usually have to get up. Do we have enough data? (Min. 6 hrs) "Yes." Okay, I am out of here.

    A long miserable night, with maybe 3-4 hours sleep.

    Came home (1 hr drive) let the dog out, got him back in, went back to sleep in my own bed with my dog curled up next to me. (Very calming.) Slept from 6am until 8:45 am.

    Diarrhea issue finally abating at 11:30-1:pm today. Think I got some bad Sour Cream on my left over home made Taco's yesterday evening. :o :shock: :cry:
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  • KenK/84Bravo
    Mobuck wrote:
    Just more "stuff" thought up as a way to suck more money from the public and/or insurance companies. Humans slept for thousands of years w/o these "life support devices" but now it's darned near a requirement??


    Yes, we have heard your "Views," on this issue multiple times.

    There are those of us with Medical issues that preclude a decent nights sleep.

    Are we to ignore Medical innovations, that would alleviate those potentially Life threatening issues, and the subsequent debilitating lack of sleep? I think not. YVMD.


    You know what happened to "those Humans who slept for thousands of years, w/o these "life support devices?" They were probably miserable due to lack of sleep, and died prematurely due to lack of O2 - when they repeatedly, oh I don't know - STOPPED BREATHING?
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  • Smitty500mag
    KenK/84Bravo wrote:
    Diarrhea issue finally abating at 11:30-1:pm today. Think I got some bad Sour Cream on my left over home made Taco's yesterday evening. :o :shock: :cry:

    Well, that's a tidbit of info I could go without knowing for, lets say...FOREVER! :roll:
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  • KenK/84Bravo
    Smitty500mag wrote:
    KenK/84Bravo wrote:
    Diarrhea issue finally abating at 11:30-1:pm today. Think I got some bad Sour Cream on my left over home made Taco's yesterday evening. :o :shock: :cry:

    Well, that's a tidbit of info I could go without knowing for, lets say...FOREVER! :roll:

    Just being real. ;)


    (And) Your welcome. :)


    Let me just add, it is not conducive to a "Sleep Study." :o :? :cry:
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  • Smitty500mag
    KenK/84Bravo wrote:


    Let me just add, it is not conducive to a "Sleep Study." :o :? :cry:


    :D:D
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  • KenK/84Bravo
    SO looking forward to sleeping in my own bed this evening, without 15-20 wires and the leads, taped/stuck to your body/head. :? Extremely uncomfortable. I can not think of another scenario less conducive to getting a good nights sleep. Nasal monitors, (2) a finger O2 monitor, etc. Every time I turned over, I was tangled up. Good stuff.

    When I got home, I let my dog outside, got him back in, had him curl up on the bed beside me, (very comforting.) and slept from 6 -8:45 am.

    Way looking forward, to tonight. Some sleep, I hope.


    SO looking forward to trying to get some sleep, this evening. Wiped out.
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  • SCOUT5
    For the nay sayers, the average life expectancy for someone with untreated obstructive sleep apnea is 5 years. There are reasons people live longer on average than they did 100-1000 years ago, and apnea treatment is one of them.
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  • KenK/84Bravo
    SCOUT5 wrote:
    For the nay sayers, the average life expectancy for someone with untreated obstructive sleep apnea is 5 years. There are reasons people live longer on average than they did 100-1000 years ago, and apnea treatment is one of them.

    Perhaps you (or someone,) can explain that factoid to Mobuck.
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  • Wild Turkey
    Wish I had gotten one earlier. Sleep apnea caused my enlarged heart and resulting high blood pressure as well as severe depression that led to me retiring early (15 years) from teaching.

    Sleep study was supposed to be two-night affair back then but by midnight I'd had enough episodes and blood oxygen had gotten low enough they put me on a CPAP -- I went to sleep very quickly and went into REM sleep almost immediately.

    Don't think I'd still be here without it.
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  • montanajoe
    • Community moderator
    ...so,wife got her CPAP machine. One weeks time she's gone from stop breathing 27 times an hour,to .7 (point 7) times an hour. She took to the machine the first night. She doesn't snore,toss/turn, quit breathing. Amazing difference.
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  • jimdeere
    The machine gives my wife headaches that last all day and no one can tell her why or what to do. Snoring like a freight train this morning. She did well when she first got it but none of the face things work for her.
    When Mama has a bad night, everyone else has a bad day.
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  • Marc1301
    jimdeere wrote:
    The machine gives my wife headaches that last all day and no one can tell her why or what to do. Snoring like a freight train this morning. She did well when she first got it but none of the face things work for her.
    When Mama has a bad night, everyone else has a bad day.
    Go here,...become a member, and you will be helped if it's possible.

    http://www.cpaptalk.com/CPAP-Sleep-Apnea-Forum.html
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  • Sam06
    KenK/84Bravo wrote:
    SO looking forward to sleeping in my own bed this evening, without 15-20 wires and the leads, taped/stuck to your body/head. :? Extremely uncomfortable. I can not think of another scenario less conducive to getting a good nights sleep. Nasal monitors, (2) a finger O2 monitor, etc. Every time I turned over, I was tangled up. Good stuff.

    When I got home, I let my dog outside, got him back in, had him curl up on the bed beside me, (very comforting.) and slept from 6 -8:45 am.

    Way looking forward, to tonight. Some sleep, I hope.


    SO looking forward to trying to get some sleep, this evening. Wiped out.

    Any Updates Ken?
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