Those Damn Obsolete Kerosene Heaters -
Around 10* out very windy. (Wind chill -20?) Headed down to around -5* with a wind chill of -35.
Power has been out for a couple hours now. Woodstove has been cranked since I got home around 4pm. After about an hour, when it became obvious that the power was not coming back on shortly, fired up the Kerosene Heater. (Almost lowest setting possible.)
Toasty warm inside, between the two. My pipes WILL freeze if I can not drip some water overnight, so kinda stressing about that.
I do not envy those Power Co. crews.
Power has been out for a couple hours now. Woodstove has been cranked since I got home around 4pm. After about an hour, when it became obvious that the power was not coming back on shortly, fired up the Kerosene Heater. (Almost lowest setting possible.)
Toasty warm inside, between the two. My pipes WILL freeze if I can not drip some water overnight, so kinda stressing about that.
I do not envy those Power Co. crews.
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Do you have heat tape on your water lines??
Be careful leaving water drip,as you can freeze your drain lines causing another problem.
Keep a source of fresh/makeup air available continuously.
Stay warm,stay safe.0 -
Good luck with the pipes. Have to see how my BIL is making out he is in Knoxville. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by montanajoe
Do you have heat tape on your water lines??
Be careful leaving water drip,as you can freeze your drain lines causing another problem.
Keep a source of fresh/makeup air available continuously.
Stay warm,stay safe.
Heat tape won't work very good when the power is out...
And I'd run your water at more than just a drip, or you could freeze up your lines. If it's running slowly , it won't freeze over, just like a stream won't freeze over0 -
1/2" PVC pipes under the house where I can not access them to insulate. (Not enough room to reach them via the crawl space, that goes down to around 6" where the pipes are located.
They must have framed in the floor, then stepped through the framing to run the plumbing. Most idiotic thing I have ever seen.
If my PVC pipes freeze and crack, I am royally screwed.
Yes, I know to run a somewhat fine stream, not a drip.0 -
Mr. Generator is your friend when power is out and well needs to run 0 -
i have 3 generators standing by...newest not used yet is a 7500 watt engine on propane .....never worry about gasoline crudding up...looking for the rite sized propane tank that i can mount both on a small wagon and pull it around shop....will put 15' small battery cables with clamp ends to start from a vehicle battery...all the small batteries like lawn mower size never seem to last very long...no gas or battery to go bad....choice of 4 vehicle, 1 truck, and 4 tractors to start 0 -
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
Mr. Generator is your friend when power is out and well needs to run
I have a new generator, that I have never set up, that I can fuel up and connect to the booster pump in the basement if I have to.
Yes, the generator will be outside.
I am hopeful the power will come back on in the next hour or two. If not, I will be doing what I have to do.0 -
leave cabinet doors open under sinks to allow warm air in there. 0 -
Got my kerosene heater fueled up for night #2 of temps at least -20?F, probably got closer to -30?F last night and maybe the same tonight. Temps in the basement last night were about 36/37? around my water pipes, so fired up the kerosene heater and let it run all night. Will do the same later tonight, probably won't freeze but not taking the chance. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by montanajoe
leave cabinet doors open under sinks to allow warm air in there.
I hear you Brother, but it will be the pipes under the house, that will be freezing.0 -
Hang in there Ken. Any idea what took the power out? 0 -
I dislike crawl spaces and am embarassed to admit I have built 2 houses with crawl spaces. On the other hand I built two with full basement.
It costs very little extra to go from a crawl space to a full basment, usually 5 courses more of block, that is 40 inches, will do the job.
And a 6 inch crawl space? Stupid builder, really stupid.
At least the crawl spaces I built are 40 inches you really can crawl around down there. Still stupid at 40 inches, build a full basement dammit.0 -
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
I dislike crawl spaces and am embarassed to admit I have built 2 houses with crawl spaces. On the other hand I built two with full basement.
It costs very little extra to go from a crawl space to a full basment, usually 5 courses more of block, that is 40 inches, will do the job.
And a 6 inch crawl space? Stupid builder, really stupid.
At least the crawl spaces I built are 40 inches you really can crawl around down there. Still stupid at 40 inches, build a full basement dammit.
Crawl space starts at perhaps 30 inches where you access the entry door to crawl in. It narrows down to apprx. 6" where the pipes are located. You can get maybe 10-15' away. (Front half of the house.) Back half of the house has a full unfinished basement with an outside access door.
Chris, With the wind being up, and in a very rural, curvy tight road in to our holler, the usual culprit is a tree down.0 -
Yes hang in there Brother. Another 18 months or so and you and the dog can move to the assisted living village and everything will be better. Maybe you will meet a nice lady there who can remove her teeth at night. And on Sundays the short bus will take you and your new friends to Taco Bell or KFC for din din at around 3:30. 0 -
Hope all turns out ok. I know it is not usual to get those cold temps down there. I feel for you sir.
It is -20 here right now, insane cold. But I am prepared for it.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Cling2myguns
Hope all turns out ok. I know it is not usual to get those cold temps down there. I feel for you sir.
It is -20 here right now, insane cold. But I am prepared for it.
Actually here in the mountains of extreme NE tip of TN, W. NC., it is not that unusual. Boone, NC has multiple Ski resorts. Stone throw from where I live.0 -
quote:Originally posted by 84Bravo1
quote:Originally posted by Cling2myguns
Hope all turns out ok. I know it is not usual to get those cold temps down there. I feel for you sir.
It is -20 here right now, insane cold. But I am prepared for it.
Actually here in the mountains of extreme NE tip of TN, W. NC., it is not that unusual. Boone, NC has multiple Ski resorts. Stone throw from where I live.
So how much higher elevation are you than Johnson City?0 -
If your foundation is sealed so that no cold air can enter the crawl space, your pipes will not freeze.
I guarantee it.0 -
quote:Originally posted by remingtonoaks
If it's running slowly , it won't freeze over, just like a stream won't freeze over
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Hahahahaha. That?s funny right there. 0 -
Niagra falls, but sometimes it doesn?t. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by GreatGuns
And rem has never been to Montana in the middle of winter. [:D]
I got $1,000 it says you're wrong... Would you like to bet?????????
In fact GiGi, I'll bet my house that I live in now that's worth approximately 200,000 against your new little shiny sports car.... Well, are you going to put your money where your mouth is....or are you just somebody that likes to flap your lips... Which is it.[:D]
For somebody that THINKS they know so much about me, you know so little....[;)]
By the way GiGi, I'm just playing with you, I know you're not stupid enough to bet on something that you know nothing about.............
But I'm hoping that you are..[}:)][^]0 -
quote:Originally posted by GreatGuns
And rem has never been to Montana in the middle of winter. [:D]
Yeah, it's definitely news to me that a flowing stream can't freeze over.0 -
quote:Originally posted by 35 Whelen
quote:Originally posted by GreatGuns
And rem has never been to Montana in the middle of winter. [:D]
Yeah, it's definitely news to me that a flowing stream can't freeze over.
It looks like I'll have to clarify what I meant for the less intelligent people here on the forum from now on...[;)]
I understand but it's all my bad, I overestimated the intelligence of the people here....[:D]0 -
quote:Originally posted by remingtonoaks
quote:Originally posted by 35 Whelen
quote:Originally posted by GreatGuns
And rem has never been to Montana in the middle of winter. [:D]
Yeah, it's definitely news to me that a flowing stream can't freeze over.
It looks like I'll have to clarify what I meant for the less intelligent people here on the forum from now on...[;)]
I thought you didn't want to be considered a "braggard" here? But, yes, please clarify the below, since it's what you posted, verbatim, completely lacking any context whatsoever.
"If it's running slowly , it won't freeze over, just like a stream won't freeze over."0 -
quote:Originally posted by 35 Whelen
quote:Originally posted by remingtonoaks
quote:Originally posted by 35 Whelen
quote:Originally posted by GreatGuns
And rem has never been to Montana in the middle of winter. [:D]
Yeah, it's definitely news to me that a flowing stream can't freeze over.
It looks like I'll have to clarify what I meant for the less intelligent people here on the forum from now on...[;)]
I thought you didn't want to be considered a braggard here?
I don't, understanding that there are less intelligent people here on the forum it's not bragging.... On the contrary, it shows that I under estimaed the stupidity of a few people here... Which by the way, shows my weak spot. Which is not bragging, it's just admitting that I do have a weak spot...[;)]
And pointing out my weak spots is by far bragging[:D][;)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by remingtonoaks
quote:Originally posted by 35 Whelen
quote:Originally posted by remingtonoaks
quote:Originally posted by 35 Whelen
quote:Originally posted by GreatGuns
And rem has never been to Montana in the middle of winter. [:D]
Yeah, it's definitely news to me that a flowing stream can't freeze over.
It looks like I'll have to clarify what I meant for the less intelligent people here on the forum from now on...[;)]
I thought you didn't want to be considered a braggard here?
I don't, understanding that there are less intelligent people here on the forum it's not bragging.... On the contrary, it shows that I under estimaed the stupidity of a few people here... Which by the way, shows my weak spot. Which is not bragging, it's just admitting that I do have a weak spot...[;)]
Oh there is no question regarding the weak spot. The rest has yet to be determined.0 -
quote:Originally posted by 35 Whelen
quote:Originally posted by remingtonoaks
quote:Originally posted by 35 Whelen
quote:Originally posted by remingtonoaks
quote:Originally posted by 35 Whelen
quote:Originally posted by GreatGuns
And rem has never been to Montana in the middle of winter. [:D]
Yeah, it's definitely news to me that a flowing stream can't freeze over.
It looks like I'll have to clarify what I meant for the less intelligent people here on the forum from now on...[;)]
I thought you didn't want to be considered a braggard here?
I don't, understanding that there are less intelligent people here on the forum it's not bragging.... On the contrary, it shows that I under estimaed the stupidity of a few people here... Which by the way, shows my weak spot. Which is not bragging, it's just admitting that I do have a weak spot...[;)]
Oh there is no question regarding the weak spot. The rest has yet to be determined.
[:D] I think it already has... Hence my admitting my weak spot about under estimating the stupidity of a few people here[}:)][8D][;)][:D]0 -
You don't want to be considered a "braggard" here, or "share a whole lot about yourself", by immediately bragging about what your home is worth, and bragging about how smart you are. Obviously this is not only a first for you, but also something that will never, ever happen again.
A wise move admitting to that weak spot, though.0 -
quote:Originally posted by 35 Whelen
You don't want to be considered a "braggard" here, or "share a whole lot about yourself", by immediately bragging about what your home is worth, and bragging about how smart you are. Obviously this is not only a first for you, but also something that will never, ever happen again.
A wise move admitting to that weak spot, though.
Admitting that my house is only worth $200,000 in my area is far from bragging about. It's actually on the lower end of the scale.... It's just a humble little 2 bedroom starter home... And only has 750 square feet. But it does serve my purposes I'm a 60 year old man that lives by himself, and has no immediate need for anything bigger. In fact if I could downsize I wanted to... But then I would have to rent. Not bragging... Just saying. Bragging would be a 60 year old man living by himself in a 4000 square foot house that's worth a couple million dollars in my area...
So now what???? I"m sure you'll have something less than stellar to add, as usual....
And by the way, if you want to try to beat me up, you ought to stop trying to hijack somebody else's thread And start your own thread on bashing me...
By the way, if you didn't notice that there was no smiley after this post... For the less intelligent here, there's a reason for that...0
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