scopes- price vs. quality
I shoot and load many rifles and calibers, most of them under "1 moa
and almost all of them with "lesser name scopes" with high varmit type magnifacion,And I have gone to high power rifle shoots(which the guys are shooting leupolds) what is the REAL difference besides the hugh price differnece? Scopes that I shoot incule are BSA, SIMMONS, TASCO. I can not see spending an extra $500.00 for lens quality or 2% more light transmission. joe
and almost all of them with "lesser name scopes" with high varmit type magnifacion,And I have gone to high power rifle shoots(which the guys are shooting leupolds) what is the REAL difference besides the hugh price differnece? Scopes that I shoot incule are BSA, SIMMONS, TASCO. I can not see spending an extra $500.00 for lens quality or 2% more light transmission. joe
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Another thought, given the choice of going hunting with a 300 yard rifle or sitting at home looking at my 600 yard rifle, I'm going hunting. If you can afford it buy the best, if not hunt within the limits of what you have. I am wrestling with this subject lately myself. I want to buy one rifle to hunt everything from antelope to moose. I'm probably going to buy one of the 300 mags, maybe a 300 wsm, and would like optics capable of 600 yards. But I have never tried to go that far and I don't know for sure what to put on it. I like the raingaurd on the 4200 (it is going to be a hunting rifle) but I don't know if it has enough optics. I'll probably never shoot at an animal at 600 yards but would like my equipment to be capable. I, like most I assume, want to know if I miss it is my fault and not my equipment. Thoughts???? 0 -
Scout,
I am going to start a new thread.
600yard rig for hunting.0 -
Have always owned Leupolds and they have done me well in all kinds of hunting situations. However, I lived in Europe for a while and put a Schmidt & Bender on my Sako, and what a difference. Save and go big, you will not regret it. 0 -
Hot Topic!!! It seems that certain folks have made ample justification for both the "expensive"...and the "not so" expensive.
My big game hunting began in 1958...and with the Lord and dollars providing...hopefully I will continue to get "out there"! Most of my scopes early-on were Redfields. They worked great...and if one fogged-up, Redfield would fix it quick...at no charge. In 1971 I purchased a Leupold M-8 four power and put it on a new Ruger 77 270.
Both gun and scope are right on target...over 30 years later! I think back then I paid about $60 bucks for that scope. Now it seems anything over $150 is sticker shock!
In the last few years I have found what I think is one of the best values around...Bushnell Sportview 3-9x38. These scopes can be purchased at SWFA (riflescopes.com) for $37. OK...Don't laugh but I swear by them! They have a gloss finish and I don't believe Bushnell makes them anymore...but the last I checked SWFA had over a hundred of them.
Another one is a VERY INEXPENSIVE Tasco in 2 1/2 power with very brilliant optics...first it's hard to find a straight 2 1/2 power anything...and second...don't laugh but they cost about $29!!!
Let me finish by saying...I do not hunt "Dangerous Game"!!!
Thanks for reading!!!
David
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An add-on experience...A few years ago I went to a guy's house who was selling his collection of "Big Dangerous Game Rifles"...Most were .338's (He loved the .338)! I believe he had a couple of .375's and a couple of .300 Mags.
Guess what??? ALL of them had inexpensive Bushnell Scopes! He told me that he had owned some Bausch & Lomb's...but he could not tell the difference! He was a true Big Game hunter who had many trophy's from Africa...and other places.
Interesting...0 -
Like most of the previous post state....you will not see a dramatic difference through a scope at close ranges or in fair conditions.
Also I am not surprised at all that that your buddy that hunted big game in Africa did not have some high end piece of glass because most of the game taken there are at very close ranges, 50 meters or so. No need to dial for windage or elevation at that range.0 -
I will add to this discussion based on my experience with cheap scopes and I've tried them all. Leave the $30 dollar ones alone period regardless of brand. I shoot mostly slug guns here and they don't hold up. What I use is Bushnel Trophy 3x9x40 rifle scopes on my slug guns. They draw more light than shotgun scopes and let me get the range these new slug guns are capable of. Lesser won't work and more is a waste of money for the intended use. I've shot a deer this year on a cloudy day in the last 5 minutes of shooting time at 131 yards (later measured).
My experience is with the cheaper scopes ( I mean $80-120) Bushnel is the best performer. You go on up to 500+ and I need advice which I ask for and got here.
Anyway my 2 cents if it helps........Scout0 -
The scope that came with my new rifle package will work for the time being as I acclimate my self to the new rifle and best load while punching paper at 100yds. When the time comes to hit the field and start looking for the 300+yd shots I will have purchased and sited and better quality scope. 0 -
One of the biggest differences in the less expensive scopes and a medium priced scope like a Leupold or Burris is the eye relief. The greater eye relief is a great benefit in larger caliber rifles and to quickly find your target. 0
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