Gun Rights
I am a new person when it comes to gun ownership.
Ive always been fascinated by guns, always wanted to have them. I am 18 so my life is young. I have a Mossberg 640T 22 Mag, About to buy a Benelli Super Nova and will buy a Black rifle in the near future as well as plenty of other guns as i get older.
I want to join an organization that will fight for my gun rights and will try to preserve the 2nd amendment. The first org that comes to mind is the NRA but i wanted to ask you guys if there are anymore or better organizations that i could look into.
Ive always been fascinated by guns, always wanted to have them. I am 18 so my life is young. I have a Mossberg 640T 22 Mag, About to buy a Benelli Super Nova and will buy a Black rifle in the near future as well as plenty of other guns as i get older.
I want to join an organization that will fight for my gun rights and will try to preserve the 2nd amendment. The first org that comes to mind is the NRA but i wanted to ask you guys if there are anymore or better organizations that i could look into.
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I hear pretty bad stuff about the NRA, I think the GOA has been mentioned at one time or another. IF it's not a gunrights organization, then it is just some random letterrs in my head for some reason... 0 -
The NRA is great!
They've been keeping us safe since 1934, 1968, 1986, and 1994. They devote 100% of the membership fees they get to defending the 2nd Amendment, and all the head people work as volunteers.
In other words, my vote is for the GOA.[^]0 -
All I know is the NRA supports Chinese baseball cap factories, Chinese LED flashlight factories and I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if the window sticker they sent me for my car was printed in China too.
In recent years the American Civil Liberties Union has gone to court in defense of private gun ownership, and won, on several occasions.
Maybe I should shift my NRA membership dollars to the ACLU?0 -
I'm smelling a troll...but the NRA is one of the worst anti-gun organizations on the planet...period. They are a wolf in sheep's clothing...and have deceived millions...working behind the scenes to strip you of your rights to own firearms. 0 -
I think I need to look into the GOA. I haven't been a member of the NRA for around the last 3 yrs or so. The last call I got from the NRA ('bout 3 months ago) went something like this:
Them: "Send us money to renew your membership, also we'll send you a free knife."
Me: "Where is the knife made?"
Them: "Can't answer that, don't know."
Me: "Tell you what. How about you quit spending so much of my dues on mailings asking me for more money. Also start buying your free gifts you send out here in America, and maybe, just maybe folks will re-up a little more. For now, I'm not renewing."
BTW, worstenemy453, in case you didn't know, green, italicized font is code for sarcasm.0 -
No troll here.
I will admit i am ignorant of the subject which is shown by the fact that i thought the NRA was decent.
Ill look into the GOA and ACLU.0 -
Forget the ACLU, It is a joke.
It isnt so much that the NRA wants to completely ban guns, it just doesnt want them protected, because it only makes money when people fear for their gun rights..
A targeted gun ban would actually be good for the NRA, it would justify its continued existence. As it ded during the gun bans back in the early ninties. Thats why it tried to torpedo the recent court hearings that re affirmed what the consitution already states is a god goven right.
Which in itself should tell you how few rights you actually have, if you think about it.
and it should also tell you how much you should trust the folks who get paid to "conserve" a right in america today.0 -
That said the GOA gets my vote as well.
get hooked up to your local non NRA affiliated gun organizations as well, they will do more for your state then any national organization, because they will have the power to directly shape your state legislature.0 -
quote:Originally posted by quickmajik
That said the GOA gets my vote as well.
get hooked up to your local non NRA affiliated gun organizations as well, they will do more for your state then any national organization, because they will have the power to directly shape your state legislature.
How do i go about finding local organizations ?
Is there a website that might have a list of them or something.0 -
Found the GOA, seems like a great organization from just looking around on the website.
Now if i join now and pay the $20, will i need to repay in January again ? It says annual but they are calling it the 2010 membership. Maybe i should just wait until the first to join.0 -
quote:Originally posted by worstenemy453
Found the GOA, seems like a great organization from just looking around on the website.
Now if i join now and pay the $20, will i need to repay in January again ? It says annual but they are calling it the 2010 membership. Maybe i should just wait until the first to join.
GOA membership is 12 months from the day you pay.0 -
Another vote for GOA, and also Second Amendment Foundation(SAF). 0 -
BEWARE of anyone that says "Send me Money" and I will take up your fight for you. That goes for the NRA, GOA, and any other organization.
None of them have accomplished much of anything in stopping the gun laws. Sure, a little here and a little there, but Major Issues they havent put a dent in them.[:(]0 -
The Virginia Citizens Defense League is right in your backyard. Get involved with them. They're a good group and staunch supporters of the 2nd Amendment.
http://www.vcdl.org/0 -
quote:Originally posted by ECC
I'm smelling a troll...but the NRA is one of the worst anti-gun organizations on the planet...period. They are a wolf in sheep's clothing...and have deceived millions...working behind the scenes to strip you of your rights to own firearms.
Nah just young and ignorant... Everyone has been there..
OP- SAF or The CATO Institute have done the most in the last decade.0 -
It's been estimated there are at least 20,000 local, state and federal rules, regulations and laws that are in direct contradiction to the 2nd amendmwent. And that number is growing. APPARENTLY THE 'GUN RIGHTS' ORGANIZATIONS ARE NOT DOING MUCH. 0 -
Sonny, you're ignorant, immature
and should never own a firearm.
Shut off the computer and go study
or I'll spank you.I think mommie is
calling.0 -
Lately, the Cato Institute, the GOA (Gun-owners of America), and the SAF (Second Amendment Foundation) have been leading the charge to repeal 2nd Amendment infringements.
The most prominent examples being Heller and McDonald, of course, but much good work, particularly by the SAF, has been done in local venues across the country.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Horse Plains Drifter
Another vote for GOA, and also Second Amendment Foundation(SAF).
both of these get my vote as well.0 -
First join a local group, there will be a "Smithville Gun Collectors Association" or "Ohio Gun Collectors" or something similar and real where you are.
Both NRA and GOA beg for more money, both have political agendas beyond the second amendment, but GOA does not pay the top offices millions per year.0 -
quote:Originally posted by ChrisInTempe
All I know is the NRA supports Chinese baseball cap factories, Chinese LED flashlight factories and I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if the window sticker they sent me for my car was printed in China too.
In recent years the American Civil Liberties Union has gone to court in defense of private gun ownership, and won, on several occasions.
Maybe I should shift my NRA membership dollars to the ACLU?
Dont forget Rifle scopes with the NRA label....Made in China!!!0 -
R.W.V.A. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by rong
Sonny, you're ignorant, immature
and should never own a firearm.
Shut off the computer and go study
or I'll spank you.I think mommie is
calling.
I love how you come at me doing the same thing i was doing. I guess being a hypocrite is working for you moron.0 -
my NRA card is very nice. looks almost just like a credit card. my name member ID in raised letters. has the nra crest or emblem whatever its called on it. very nice looking. My GOA card is fairly plain looking. red card with the minute man holding his musket in the goa logo. had to right in my own name. No info on the back of it.
which organization uses more of its money to fight for our rights and which one wasts more money on pretty much worthless crap??
And last i knew GOA didnt have mandatory join up fees. can you give 50 bucks. great. 25 bucks. thank you. cant afford to give anything. thanks for joining. ive joined up family to the GOA.0 -
If not a Troll, then perhaps a fishing expedition for a college final of sorts?
Ether way, if it quacks like a duck it isn't an insurance salesman![;)]
Trinity +++0 -
If you are going to shoot in Competition you must be a NRA member; that will remain that way until someone else steps up to sanction shooting sports. If you hunt it is wise to be an NRA member for the liability insurance. If you own guns it is wise to be an NRA member for the $1,000.00 gun coverage.
If you are wise you will tell the NRA to NEVER call or mail you asking for money.
You are wise to avoid the NRA-ILA like the black plague Evil twin to the devil it truly is.
My .02 and I'm stickin' to it.0 -
The OP has been registered here since 2/08, and has over 250 posts. He wants us to believe that he hasn't read any of the threads in General Discussion pertaining to the NRA? Ya, right.
OK then, if not, read the sticky in this forum about the NRA-ILA.
quote:Originally posted by bpost
If you are going to shoot in Competition you must be a NRA member; that will remain that way until someone else steps up to sanction shooting sports.
You should be a bit more specific here. I have been shooting Competition for YEARS. Sometimes 3 matches per week (which is about as much as I want) and have NEVER been asked if I was a member of the NRA.
quote:Originally posted by bpost
You are wise to avoid the NRA-ILA like the black plague Evil twin to the devil it truly is.
Totally agree here.0 -
Join them all. Some portion may go where you want it. Like paying taxes and union dues. 0 -
Join the NRA. Not perfect but nothing is. Some people here hate them, but I go to a lot of gun shows and never find NRA haters there. GOA is also good and do not forget your state rifle association if there is one. 0
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