Trump sure has started a firestorm,....
with this temporary immigration ban from select countries. I have been seeing crying Governors, Mayors, Congress members, and what seems like every world leader short of PM May from the UK.
What is it that makes us the only nation in the world that it seems should not have any immigration laws, or change things temporarily out of good sense?
What is it that makes us the only nation in the world that it seems should not have any immigration laws, or change things temporarily out of good sense?
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My daughter and son in law are crying on Facebook that this is not the christian thing to do. They fail to understand what Muslums do to Christians. The problem with treating Muslums as a religious issue is that their plolitics are so interwined with their religion that it's impossible to seperate the two. These same good people who are crying about what the Christian thing to do is seem to think Abortion is fine. A lot of the good Christians that I know consider abortion to be murder. Hypocritical? 0 -
Have you heard of this??[:0]
Sanctuary Cities0 -
quote:Originally posted by retroxler58
I for one am LOVING the new Whitehouse occupant in charge.
Those left on the hill are whizzin' in their depends. [:D]
+1
I fully agree. It is long past time immigration controls (for legal and illegal) be put in place and enforced.
We are off to a good start.0 -
Well maybe the old law the judge is enforcing needs rewritten. 0 -
Nothing Personal... Just Business. [;)] 0 -
What the President ordered:
The Secretary of Treasury [State] and the Attorney General will invalidate all visas issued to Iranian citizens for future entry into the United States, effective today. We will not reissue visas, nor will we issue new visas, except for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons or where the national interest of our own country requires. This directive will be interpreted very strictly.
Oh, wait- my bad. That was what President Jimmy Carter (D) ordered on 7 April 1980.
Notice that none of the talking heads will acknowledge THAT.0 -
See all the crybaby snowflakes going ape poop? Be prepared to take these clueless morons HEAD ON.
I hope for calm but you see how these POS want confrontation. OK.0 -
quote:Originally posted by shilowar
The Progressives will not be satisfied until our country is drowning in anti-american sharia loving terrorists. Dearborn Mich is a fine example of their utopia. It is not our responsibility to take Muslim refugees, let their own Muslim countries shelter them. It is nothing more than an invasion. I have to laugh when libtards talked about how we need to open our doors to Muslim children why they push for the wholesale slaughter of the African American unborn. It is laughable.
Pretty much covers it.0 -
If it prevents 1 death from a Muslim terrorist, this is worth it. 0 -
Barzilla beat me to it.
But don't forget it was Saudi Arabia where the majority, if not all of the 911 attackers came from.
But alternative facts are always easier to swallow them the truth.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Jgreen
Barzilla beat me to it.
But don't forget it was Saudi Arabia where the majority, if not all of the 911 attackers came from.
But alternative facts are always easier to swallow them the truth.
So why is this not publicized more? hint: follow the money
http://www.fairus.org/issue/identity-and-immigration-status-of-9-11-terrorists
But it is my belief that they were aided by someone in power in the USA. I believe they were pawns who were given a chance to advance their cause for a greater project. Follow the money.0 -
Barz so tell us how many refugees or illegals have you taken in to care for. When is enough with the job market closing up everyday and driving wages down.
You liberals spew crap and only thing you want is illegals and the dead voting in my opinion.
I would rather spend the money on American's and Legal immigrants that live here.
Open you house up and take them in and then let us know how that works out for you.0 -
There is certainly a valid point as to why some countries have been left off the list in this, and prior administrations. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Jgreen
Barzilla beat me to it.
But don't forget it was Saudi Arabia where the majority, if not all of the 911 attackers came from.
But alternative facts are always easier to swallow them the truth.
So far, you and Barz seem to wish to ignore the FACT that the EO does not choose the countries affected. The 7 countries are those already identified by the Congress and the Obama administration as those countries with the most active and dangerous terrorist involvement.
I assume you and the rest of the herd had major meltdowns then, right?
Seems you are the one using #alternativefacts.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Jgreen
Barzilla beat me to it.
But don't forget it was Saudi Arabia where the majority, if not all of the 911 attackers came from.
But alternative facts are always easier to swallow them the truth.
well known and obvious fact
and we accepted not to hold the entire country accountable for a few dozen men years ago
quote:UAE, Egypt and Saudi Arabia
and they have well proven to be good allies at this point, Iran,Iraq,Syria,Sudan,Libya,Yemen, Somalia have not proven anything but attempting to infiltrate our country and destroy our way of life
lets add all past aggressors to list, starting with england and japan0 -
This is really turning into a mess, a sign of what happens when you let people into a country they hate, and have no desire for assimilation into for many years.
Things are so muddied between factions with different agendas that the real picture is obscured.
Combine that with the fact our American culture (which has been on life support for decades) seems to be taking its dying breaths, and you don't have a good picture overall.
http://tinyurl.com/ztmvmgd0 -
quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
This is really turning into a mess, a sign of what happens when you let people into a country they hate, and have no desire for assimilation into for many years.
Things are so muddied between factions with different agendas that the real picture is obscured.
Combine that with the fact our American culture (which has been on life support for decades) seems to be taking its dying breaths, and you don't have a good picture overall.
http://tinyurl.com/ztmvmgd
Turmoil and strife is a tool of the left, Marc. Always has been. Make lots of noise and pretend it matters.
What is being displayed more and more blatantly is the virulent anti-Western Civilization attitude held by the left. The mask is slipping.0 -
Maybe Trump only listed the ones that bribed the clinton "foundation"
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Nah the list would be a mile long[;)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
This is really turning into a mess, a sign of what happens when you let people into a country they hate, and have no desire for assimilation into for many years.
Things are so muddied between factions with different agendas that the real picture is obscured.
Combine that with the fact our American culture (which has been on life support for decades) seems to be taking its dying breaths, and you don't have a good picture overall.
http://tinyurl.com/ztmvmgd
Turmoil and strife is a tool of the left, Marc. Always has been. Make lots of noise and pretend it matters.
What is being displayed more and more blatantly is the virulent anti-Western Civilization attitude held by the left. The mask is slipping.
No question about that.
As far as turmoil and strife,....emotion (not logic) rules the day once again. I'm becoming inclined to believe that emotion is all these people have.[xx(]0 -
quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
This is really turning into a mess, a sign of what happens when you let people into a country they hate, and have no desire for assimilation into for many years.
Things are so muddied between factions with different agendas that the real picture is obscured.
Combine that with the fact our American culture (which has been on life support for decades) seems to be taking its dying breaths, and you don't have a good picture overall.
http://tinyurl.com/ztmvmgd
Turmoil and strife is a tool of the left, Marc. Always has been. Make lots of noise and pretend it matters.
What is being displayed more and more blatantly is the virulent anti-Western Civilization attitude held by the left. The mask is slipping.
No question about that.
As far as turmoil and strife,....emotion (not logic) rules the day once again. I'm becoming inclined to believe that emotion is all these people have.[xx(]
Well, they also have dishonesty and obfuscation. We have been seeing that from our two resident leftist GB trolls. The FACT that the 7 countries affected by the EO were singled out by the Obama administration and the Congress is easy to discover, and has been pointed out here, yet they have both continued to lie about it.
It is kinda funny to see one of the Snowflakes use the phrase #alternatefacts...when he himself is the worst offender.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
This is really turning into a mess, a sign of what happens when you let people into a country they hate, and have no desire for assimilation into for many years.
Things are so muddied between factions with different agendas that the real picture is obscured.
Combine that with the fact our American culture (which has been on life support for decades) seems to be taking its dying breaths, and you don't have a good picture overall.
http://tinyurl.com/ztmvmgd
Turmoil and strife is a tool of the left, Marc. Always has been. Make lots of noise and pretend it matters.
What is being displayed more and more blatantly is the virulent anti-Western Civilization attitude held by the left. The mask is slipping.
Yep on both posts. They are so despicable they make Putin look like a close ally.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
This is really turning into a mess, a sign of what happens when you let people into a country they hate, and have no desire for assimilation into for many years.
Things are so muddied between factions with different agendas that the real picture is obscured.
Combine that with the fact our American culture (which has been on life support for decades) seems to be taking its dying breaths, and you don't have a good picture overall.
http://tinyurl.com/ztmvmgd
Turmoil and strife is a tool of the left, Marc. Always has been. Make lots of noise and pretend it matters.
What is being displayed more and more blatantly is the virulent anti-Western Civilization attitude held by the left. The mask is slipping.
No question about that.
As far as turmoil and strife,....emotion (not logic) rules the day once again. I'm becoming inclined to believe that emotion is all these people have.[xx(]
When their position isn't supported by logic, all they have left is emotion. Not too surprising that is mostly what we see these days.0 -
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The executive order gives direction to existing agencies to prepare reports NOW,, as in START RIGHT NOW, and with defined requests for recommendations within the following time periods:
(h) The Secretaries of State and Homeland Security shall submit to the President a joint report on the progress in implementing this order within 30 days of the date of this order, a second report within 60 days of the date of this order, a third report within 90 days of the date of this order, and a fourth report within 120 days of the date of this order.
There are several other deadlines 100 and 200 days out.
Positive Trump and certain agencies within the U.S. Government really appreciate all the help.
When was the last time Judiciary's, law enforcement, private citizens etc. have come together to help identify problems QUICKLY !!! and bring them to the attention of millions of citizens (Foreign and Domestic). MESSAGE "Things are different"
By the time people have got what they think is right,,, it's essentially all over. In the mean time a fire was lit under a lot of folks ***** to get them moving.
FULL TEXT OF THE ORDER:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/27/donald-trump-executive-order-immigration-full-text
Reports NOT ON TIME, THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES TWITTER.0 -
quote:Originally posted by TooBig
Barz so tell us how many refugees or illegals have you taken in to care for. When is enough with the job market closing up everyday and driving wages down.
You liberals spew crap and only thing you want is illegals and the dead voting in my opinion.
I would rather spend the money on American's and Legal immigrants that live here.
Open you house up and take them in and then let us know how that works out for you.
You're missing the point that the EO has stranded LEGAL immigrants.
If you have a green card, you're here legally.
If you have a visa, you're here legally.
Since this is being enforced at customs. NOT A SINGLE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IS AFFECTED.
Kind of like suspending NCIS background checks because you're trying to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals.
This EO is bad policy, poorly executed.0 -
quote:Originally posted by droptop
The executive order gives direction to existing agencies to prepare reports NOW,, as in START RIGHT NOW, and with defined requests for recommendations within the following time periods:
(h) The Secretaries of State and Homeland Security shall submit to the President a joint report on the progress in implementing this order within 30 days of the date of this order, a second report within 60 days of the date of this order, a third report within 90 days of the date of this order, and a fourth report within 120 days of the date of this order.
There are several other deadlines 100 and 200 days out.
Positive Trump and certain agencies within the U.S. Government really appreciate all the help.
When was the last time Judiciary's, law enforcement, private citizens etc. have come together to help identify problems QUICKLY !!! and bring them to the attention of millions of citizens (Foreign and Domestic). MESSAGE "Things are different"
By the time people have got what they think is right,,, it's essentially all over. In the mean time a fire was lit under a lot of folks ***** to get them moving.
FULL TEXT OF THE ORDER:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/27/donald-trump-executive-order-immigration-full-text
Reports NOT ON TIME, THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES TWITTER.
Without googling, name either the Secretary of State or secretary of homeland security mentioned above.
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quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
This is really turning into a mess, a sign of what happens when you let people into a country they hate, and have no desire for assimilation into for many years.
Things are so muddied between factions with different agendas that the real picture is obscured.
Combine that with the fact our American culture (which has been on life support for decades) seems to be taking its dying breaths, and you don't have a good picture overall.
http://tinyurl.com/ztmvmgd
Turmoil and strife is a tool of the left, Marc. Always has been. Make lots of noise and pretend it matters.
What is being displayed more and more blatantly is the virulent anti-Western Civilization attitude held by the left. The mask is slipping.
No question about that.
As far as turmoil and strife,....emotion (not logic) rules the day once again. I'm becoming inclined to believe that emotion is all these people have.[xx(]
Well, they also have dishonesty and obfuscation. We have been seeing that from our two resident leftist GB trolls. The FACT that the 7 countries affected by the EO were singled out by the Obama administration and the Congress is easy to discover, and has been pointed out here, yet they have both continued to lie about it.
Bold talk for a hole expert. If I have posted anything here that is incorrect, please identify it. I will be glad to correct any errors.
You seem to have let out the part about "Obfuscation". The countries affected by the EO were already identified for additional restriction by order of the Obama administration and Congress. I am sure you will now tell us that your continued mentioning of Trump's business interests was intended just as some wonderful unconnected information, and not for the implication you obviously are using it for.
quote:No country with a Trump hotel or business was on the list.
What a coincidence.
It is kinda funny to see one of the Snowflakes use the phrase #alternatefacts...when he himself is the worst offender.
So far, you are the only one using that particular term in this thread. There's the real joke.
Did you miss this one by your buddy? Or will you take refuge in the pedantry of a different spelling?
quote:But alternative facts are always easier to swallow them the truth.
As is your usual MO, you avoid dealing with the facts as they are. I asked if you had a meltdown when the Obama administration restricted visas from these same 7 countries. You don't answer. Probably because like most people, you weren't even aware of it. You get your information from the idiot box in your living room, and then focus your phony outrage when someone or something you don't already like is available. Other countries can be added, but it seems the 7 that have been identified by a bipartisan majority ought to be a good place to start. Do you disagree? Hell, I am fine with restricting immigration from all countries for a few years. It has been done before when we had no real need for more warm bodies.
Have you been concerned as the Obama administration has discriminated against religious groups? Are you even aware of it? Again, I doubt it. The MSM has said nothing, so the ignorance abounds.0 -
quote:Originally posted by bigoutside
quote:Originally posted by droptop
The executive order gives direction to existing agencies to prepare reports NOW,, as in START RIGHT NOW, and with defined requests for recommendations within the following time periods:
(h) The Secretaries of State and Homeland Security shall submit to the President a joint report on the progress in implementing this order within 30 days of the date of this order, a second report within 60 days of the date of this order, a third report within 90 days of the date of this order, and a fourth report within 120 days of the date of this order.
There are several other deadlines 100 and 200 days out.
Positive Trump and certain agencies within the U.S. Government really appreciate all the help.
When was the last time Judiciary's, law enforcement, private citizens etc. have come together to help identify problems QUICKLY !!! and bring them to the attention of millions of citizens (Foreign and Domestic). MESSAGE "Things are different"
By the time people have got what they think is right,,, it's essentially all over. In the mean time a fire was lit under a lot of folks ***** to get them moving.
FULL TEXT OF THE ORDER:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/27/donald-trump-executive-order-immigration-full-text
Reports NOT ON TIME, THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES TWITTER.
Without googling, name either the Secretary of State or secretary of homeland security mentioned above.
[:D][:D]
The names are Rex Tillerson and John Kelly. At this point they are candidates and have not been sworn in to their posts, as the Ds in Congress are playing games with their nominations.
[:D][:D][:D] This is fun.0 -
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FULL TEXT OF THE ORDER:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/27/donald-trump-executive-order-immigration-full-text
Reports NOT ON TIME, THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES TWITTER.
Without googling, name either the Secretary of State or secretary of homeland security mentioned above.
[:D][:D]
Almost always google but "X" Exxon CEO,, Rex Tillerson and ??? Homeland,, thought a while,, didn't remember but should have. Gen. John Kelly ,, bet I remember from now on.0 -
Amazing how many well organized protest are scattered all over the US lot of clips on TV lot of chatter on radio news. Where do they find all these people standing around holding signs and "yelling chants" willing to bet 95 per cent or more have no clue what they are protesting. Unbelievable there are so many clueless people following the Democrat propaganda machine.
This whole thing has a Soro's stink to it0
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