What cost the GOP the house
Not overturning ObamaCare. The GOP promised to do it and failed. Thing is the house voted to repel it, it was the senate that failed to do so.
Just so happened the senate races weren't opened up like the house. Dems went after the low hanging fruit and got it.
If the GOP had overturned ObamaCare the dems couldn't have used the prospect of saving it to run on.
Thanks John McCain, you gave the house to the dems.
Just so happened the senate races weren't opened up like the house. Dems went after the low hanging fruit and got it.
If the GOP had overturned ObamaCare the dems couldn't have used the prospect of saving it to run on.
Thanks John McCain, you gave the house to the dems.
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Voters. 0 -
Kiss the wall goodbye. 0 -
social media. Fake news. 0 -
me too movement ..things not happening fast enough for the people ..they want instant gratification[:X] 0 -
From what I gather, the president's party ordinarily takes a good beating during mid-terms. And this beating, again, from what I gather, is not nearly as bad as the democratic _______s (fill in the blank), took their last two times around. The big diff as I see it is that these cesspool skunks will go after Trump and most any politician that stands in their way of impeaching him...which includes their on kind that just got elected if they have visions of compromise. 0 -
The constant infighting between the Republicans in the House completely pi**es me off. Damnit, they had it ALL and couldn't quit bickering long enough to get things done. The Dems just sat back and laughed. Now look at the mess we have. 0 -
Stupid voters and younger voters who have been brainwashed in our public education system. Plus there is now about 40% of Americans who want something for nothing and are too stupid to know where the government gets it's money. What other reason would Burnie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren get elected? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by ChrisStreett
The constant infighting between the Republicans in the House completely pi**es me off. Damnit, they had it ALL and couldn't quit bickering long enough to get things done. The Dems just sat back and laughed. Now look at the mess we have.
I know the feeling, but what we are not hearing about, for quite obvious reasons having to do with fake news and such, is the draining of the swamp that is going on with the never-Trumpers/many RINOS, the moderate establishment elites that are being either moved out or supporting Trump by hook or crook, one or the other, or lose the votes of their constituents and, thus, their office for not reaching across the aisle in favor of some legitimate compromise. Now, what we need to see are the new democratic politicians defying the hate mongers that run their party.0 -
quote:Originally posted by ChrisStreett
The constant infighting between the Republicans in the House completely pi**es me off. Damnit, they had it ALL and couldn't quit bickering long enough to get things done. The Dems just sat back and laughed. Now look at the mess we have.
I said it on another forum and I will say it here.
I don't mind losing the House. We weren't using it anyway.0 -
quote:Originally posted by US Military Guy
quote:Originally posted by ChrisStreett
The constant infighting between the Republicans in the House completely pi**es me off. Damnit, they had it ALL and couldn't quit bickering long enough to get things done. The Dems just sat back and laughed. Now look at the mess we have.
I said it on another forum and I will say it here.
I don't mind losing the House. We weren't using it anyway.
That's a great point, and with the venom that permeates the scum in the democratic party, the Never-Trumpers, media, etc., all the republicans have to do is bait them, and they will self-destruct. Enter, John Q. Public.0 -
quote:Originally posted by jimdeere
Kiss the wall goodbye.
[:D] The Trumpers thrive on adversity. [:D]0 -
Correct me if I'm wrong, but incumbents tend to win about 98% of the time. In 2018 36 House Republicans chose to not run, 18 House Democrats chose to not run. Spitball math means had they not left Republicans would have netted about 17 wins in the just completed midterms. I'm not sure of the final breakdown, but if the Ds netted just under 30 flips that would have been reduced to about 15 and not enough to take control. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by ChrisStreett
The constant infighting between the Republicans in the House completely pi**es me off. Damnit, they had it ALL and couldn't quit bickering long enough to get things done. The Dems just sat back and laughed. Now look at the mess we have.
They did exactly the same thing during Dubya's first term when 'they had it all.'0 -
One TV guy made an interesting comment early in the evening when a Republican was defeated on the east Coast. He noted that the ousted House member was not a Trump supporter. Trump said during his press conference that many defeated GOP candidates had declined his offer of an endorsement and an appearance. Maybe the Trump faithful withheld their votes for those disloyal to the president? 0 -
House Speaker Paul Ryan [:(!] 0 -
The RINO republitards held the house and senate for 8+ years under G Dubya....and in true fashion...did absolutely nothing but sit back and ride the coattails of a strong economy. Those lesions could have fixed a lot of things. But, they willfully chose not to do anything productive, except maybe killing our soldiers in an unconstitutional war. 0 -
Before the GOP had control of the house, all we heard from them was ?give us the House so we can change things, blah blah blah?
So we gave the House to them. What did they change?
How long did they have control of the House? What exactly did they do once they had the power? Did they do ANYTHING significant?
So now the GOP is whining and sniveling because they lost control. It?s the same old pathetic soap opera.0 -
It isn't what the republicans or democrats did or said. It's the quality of the voters. The typical American voter no longer respects their country. 0 -
The repubs and dems are mostly on the same side anyway, particularly in states willing to flip, so I fail to see how it makes one lick of difference. 0 -
The masses are being brainwashed by the media and such. Many are close to brain dead to begin with. I saw a women's group started on the news yesterday. They claimed that they got together because of all the racism and hate in Trumps speeches. If they bothered to listen or read the speeches it just isn't there. Sure he is against illegal immigration. Note the word illegal. Trying to uphold existing laws is not hateful or raciest, it should be everyone's duty. But the media broadcast that message all the time, so the sheeple believe it.
Same as the latest resignation of Sessions.The news keeps saying he was fired. But he resigned. I have seen it at work where someone is given the option of quitting or getting run off. The result is the same, but the person is saved some face and makes the decision. Also it looks better for the next job to say you quit rather than you got run off. The end result, the truth, they resigned, weren't fired.
As long as the the media (propaganda papers) has their agenda
and report things the way they want you to hear it, not following the truth if it doesn't suit, people too lazy or dim witted to seek the truth will just go along with it.And the rest of us suffer from that.0 -
obamacare, john "the maverick" McCain's legacy [xx(]. Soon as the caravan gets here they'll need mucho health carefrom all that bus rides. 0 -
American voters tend to want a split between the executive and legislative branches of government rather than all Dems or all Repubs. That split tends to force working together to accomplish something maybe acceptable to both sides.
Also a referendum on Trump whose approval ratings are below 50%.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Bottom Gun
Before the GOP had control of the house, all we heard from them was ?give us the House so we can change things, blah blah blah?
So we gave the House to them. What did they change?
How long did they have control of the House? What exactly did they do once they had the power? Did they do ANYTHING significant?
So now the GOP is whining and sniveling because they lost control. It?s the same old pathetic soap opera.
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Separated from the President's peculiar legal circumstances and tendency to p*ss off folks, dropping 30 seats in the House and picking up 4 or 5 Democratic Party Senate seats (balancing against the Heller loss) is a pretty good showing. Had the 36 incumbent Republicans who bailed ran (with the usual 98% re-election rate) instead this would have been a fine mid-term showing. 0 -
As Trump mentioned yesterday, even if they had held the House by 2 or 3, they still would have struggled getting things passed because it was difficult to get even republicans on board for many issues. Now they will have to compromise. Maybe get something done that can be agreed on. If there's any crumb that's bi-partisan. Can forget about the wall for now. Needed to get that done and they didn't do it.
I foresee Pelosi and the dems wasting our time for the next two years with a lot of B.S. nobody cares about. Sadly they're going to waste two years and the democrats think they did us a favor.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Bottom Gun
Before the GOP had control of the house, all we heard from them was ?give us the House so we can change things, blah blah blah?
So we gave the House to them. What did they change?
How long did they have control of the House? What exactly did they do once they had the power? Did they do ANYTHING significant?
So now the GOP is whining and sniveling because they lost control. It?s the same old pathetic soap opera.
Wilkow brings this up all the time. He mentioned it again yesterday. They're going to say they got tax reform through. That was low hanging fruit. They should have had that bill ready to sign on day one of the presidency but nobody thought he'd win so nobody bothered working on it. Had they done so, they could have quickly moved on to wall legislation if the will was there. Paul Ryan can't get out of there quickly enough.
Gaining in the Senate is big after the Kavanaugh fiasco. Don't be surprised if Trump picks one or two more Supreme court justices before it's all said and done. Especially after 2020... [:D] Should be smooth sailing appointing judges going forward.
The House can obstruct and fiddle around all they want. Waste two years, make themselves look bad. Anger the swing voters again. The Senate isn't going to pass their garbage and if they do, Trump has a pen.
I predict the impeachment threats was all show to get votes. They aren't going to do anything. There's no basis for it.0 -
quote:House Speaker Paul Ryan
I fully agree.
A democrate can at times take a congessional or senate seat away from a Republican, but what they will never be able to do is beat a monkey on an IQ test.0 -
There were too many anti-Trump agenda Republicans in the House... 0 -
Too many people wanted the left boot, not the right boot. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Junkballer
House Speaker Paul Ryan [:(!]
He had to deal with center-left, center, center-right, and right-wing members of his own caucus and did a fairly good job of getting legislation passed in the House.
The Senate did very little with what was passed through the house. Had the Senate properly acted upon what Ryan sent them, I would imagine the house would still be Republican come January.
Ryan was one of the few politicians who were willing to take on the Entitlement black holes of Social Security and Medicare. For this he was demeaned by Trump and by those that believe it is fair to take money from your grandchildren to fund a lifestyle beyond what has been contributed. He was not a Trump sycophant, which is why many disagree with him, but had we 218 like him in the House of Representatives, the U. S. of A. would be in a much better place today.0
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