Question for the truck drivers
I have been doing a lot of traveling with a trailer. When I stop at the rest stops I notice a lot of autos park in the area for trucks and trailers. If I need to use the restroom and there is no parking and there are autos parked in the truck spaces is one thing but if I need to sleep for a hour or two and either unable to park or wake up with a auto parked next to me I wonder if there is a reason beyond inconsiderate.
Are there any problems connected with autos parking in the truck/trailer parking spaces?
Are there any problems connected with autos parking in the truck/trailer parking spaces?
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We are required by law to stop and park for 10 hours a day, there is a parking shortage in most of the country. 0 -
I will park there if I am towing mi 29' travel trailer, but just my pick-up? No, never!
My pick-up will fit in a regular spot.
I think you are correct that those people are just being inconsiderate, or they are just EXTREMELY BAD at parking.[;)]0 -
Back in my days (70's) of driving, most cars parked near trucks were "working girls". 0 -
quote:Originally posted by guntech59
I will park there if I am towing mi 29' travel trailer, but just my pick-up? No, never!
My pick-up will fit in a regular spot.
I think you are correct that those people are just being inconsidevrate, or they are just EXTREMELY BAD at parking.[;)]
You are part of the problem, you see you can go park at walmart(places like that), rv camps but you chose to take up a parking space a driver can park in, keeping him/her off the ramps. There is a parking shortages and every parking space is need for these drivers. You have a rv, which have a bathroom, a truck does not. Think about it.
And yes, I am a truck driver for 18 years. This is one of many reason why I am leaving it soon.
Rob0 -
Just info for some understanding.
The Fed DOT passed new hours of service laws for truck drivers. They require "breaks" at certain intervals. One minute past that start of that interval, and you are in violation, and there is no more paper book of lies, it's all electronic now. They know when and where you take that break. Violation = Fine, and I'm sure you saw the fine list in BSR's post.
When that law came into effect, the same time all the shoulders that you use to pull off on, are now pegged with 4x4 posts with a "No Parking At Anytime" sign. Screwed if you do, screwed if you don't.
This has made chaos of rest area parking and truck stops, most are filled by 6PM anymore.
Park a truck on the rest area car side to run in and take a leak, and you might be working the next tree weeks to pay off the fine. Park your car on the truck side, and you don't get bothered. Unless it's some truck driver trying to find a spot to shut down before his E-Log goes red, broadcasts his violation to the DOT, and his company.
It's a problem that's only going to get worse, but I'm sure the guberment will get it fixed with more regulation.0 -
4 wheelers are why I hung up my CDL. Had 2 friends [drivers] who had 4 wheelers commit suicide on their front bumper. The stupid ****s just pulled out in front of them.
Yep lots of trucks- lots of online shopping and orders. Duh.
The rest areas are overwhelmed. Trucks parked from the off ramp to the on ramp.
Corrupt government revenuers pass laws but have NO idea of the consequences.0 -
We have some wide shoulders on the roads in spots come evening they get filled up fast with trucks. Rest areas the on and off ramps leading up to it are filled with trucks. 0 -
quote:What are the basic hours-of-service rules for commercial truck drivers?
After 10 hours off duty, the driver of a property-carrying vehicle may drive for up to 11 hours within a 14-hour window of time, must take a 30-minute break before driving after 8 consecutive hours, and must stop driving after accumulating 60 or 70 on-duty hours in 7 or 8 days.
So that means by federal law we must be parked for 10 hours, after that we can only drive 11 hours. After the 11 or 14 hour rule kicks in we must park for another 10 hours.
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Truck parking shortages are a national safety concern. Commercial truck drivers need access to safe, secure, and accessible truck parking. With the projected growth of truck traffic, the demand for truck parking will continue to outpace the supply of public and private parking facilities and will only exacerbate the truck parking problems experienced in many regions.
An inadequate supply of truck parking spaces can result in negative consequences. Tired truck drivers may continue to drive because they have difficulty finding a place to park for rest. Truck drivers may choose to park at unsafe locations, such as on the shoulder of the road, exit ramps, or vacant lots, if they are unable to locate official, available parking.
Numerous public, private, academic and non-profit studies have been completed on the adequacy of truck parking, and these studies have some common findings including an expected growth in truck activity, severe shortages of parking for trucks, lack of information on truck parking opportunities, and challenges due to limited delivery windows and specific rest requirements. The links below provide information to the programs and activities authorized that support truck parking, as well as the reports, surveys and historical information for truck parking.
In many parts of the country there are more trucks than parking spaces, a lot of customers won?t allow onsite parking such as Walmart DCs, even if you are dead tired and out of legal drive time you are forced off thier property. The FMCSA has addressed this problem like this,
quote:Question 26: Under what circumstances may a driver operate a commercial motor vehicle (CMV) as a personal conveyance?
Guidance: A driver may record time operating a CMV for personal conveyance (i.e., for personal use or reasons) as off-duty only when the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work by the motor carrier. The CMV may be used for personal conveyance even if it is laden, since the load is not being transported for the commercial benefit of the carrier at that time. Personal conveyance does not reduce a driver?s or motor carrier?s responsibility to operate a CMV safely. Motor carriers can establish personal conveyance limitations either within the scope of, or more restrictive than, this guidance, such as banning use of a CMV for personal conveyance purposes, imposing a distance limitation on personal conveyance, or prohibiting personal conveyance while the CMV is laden.
Examples of Appropriate Uses of a CMV While Off-duty for Personal Conveyance
The following are examples of appropriate uses of a CMV while off-duty for personal conveyance include, but are not limited to:
Time spent traveling from a driver?s en route lodging (such as a motel or truck stop) to restaurants and entertainment facilities.
Commuting between the driver?s terminal and his or her residence, between trailer-drop lots and the driver?s residence, and between work sites and his or her residence. In these scenarios, the commuting distance combined with the release from work and start to work times must allow the driver enough time to obtain the required restorative rest as to ensure the driver is not fatigued.
Time spent traveling to a nearby, reasonable, safe location to obtain required rest after loading or unloading. The time driving under personal conveyance must allow the driver adequate time to obtain the required rest in accordance with minimum off-duty periods under 49 CFR 395.3(a)(1) (property-carrying vehicles) or 395.5(a) (passenger-carrying vehicles) before returning to on-duty driving, and the resting location must be the first such location reasonably available.
Moving a CMV at the request of a safety official during the driver?s off-duty time
Time spent traveling in a motorcoach without passengers to en route lodging (such as motel or truck stop), or to restaurants and entertainment facilities and back to the lodging. In this scenario, the driver of the motorcoach can claim personal conveyance provided the driver is off-duty. Other off-duty drivers may be on board the vehicle, and are not considered passengers.
Time spent transporting personal property while off-duty.
Authorized use of a CMV to travel home after working at an offsite location.
So, is taking a truck parking spot a good idea? Well you make that decision. Just don?t be a Richard and put your slideouts out taking more than one spot. I?ve seen people do this, take 3 spots so they can fully deploy thier camper. Another one is ?convoying?, having your wife follow you in rhe car and then parking that car in a lone spot, pure buttholiness.
You can park that RV or camper in places we cannot, we are limited greatly on where we are allowed to park. Many states issue heavy fines for parking on ramps, parking in businesses can get a boot put on the truck or towed, cops run us off of streets all the time. North Carolina has a suit against the state right now for forcing a truck driver to leave a ramp, that driver was in a crash shortly after killing a car driver because he fell asleep. Many weigh stations won?t allow parking, they force you to break the law then write tickets.
We were safer when we could cheat, these electronic logs forcing 100% compliance to a set of laws that are wrong makes the roads less safe, but there are people(a few here) that welcome this heavy handed enforcement and could care less about the problems we face, they say ?follow the law you damned criminal!? Yeah, screw you.0 -
I pulled in to one of my "old reliable" mom n pop truck stops outside Birmingham on I 20 last night 1 am. I was tired.
Good God, no room in the inn!
I still had time on my clock so I headed on towards El Paso. Stopped at one rest area, really big one south of Birmingham, utterly full and guys parked all over the shoulders and on the ramps. No cars parked in truck spots however.
So I was headed to my 24 karat gold "old reliable" this is a huge old mom n pop at mm 17 I 20 Alabama. Went out of business in the collapse of '08, the Hadjis bought it five years ago. A gang from India owns the place.
They never rebuilt the highway sign, plus it is not in the GPS, so most guys don't know it it here. Huge truck stop parking for 150 trucks or more.
Even better the Hadjis replaced the old mom n pop restaurant with the Taste of India restaurant.
Truck drivers hate Indian food another reason they don't like this truck stop. I love Indian food.
So I got in here at 3am I was on my last legs but there was plenty of room to park.
Looks like chicken vindaloo for lunch 'cause I can't roll until 1 pm. These regs are a pain in the ass because on my own I would have rolled out at 10 am I can't sleep more than 7 hours.
As for the time of night, I am a day time driver. I like to drive from 7 am and like to park it by 8 pm, like the guys said many truck stops are full by 8pm. That is just the schedule I am used to but got caught up yesterday due to the schedule I was on, damn I was already tired by 1 am. Tough job let me tell you.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Big Sky Redneck
quote:What are the basic hours-of-service rules for commercial truck drivers?
After 10 hours off duty, the driver of a property-carrying vehicle may drive for up to 11 hours within a 14-hour window of time, must take a 30-minute break before driving after 8 consecutive hours, and must stop driving after accumulating 60 or 70 on-duty hours in 7 or 8 days.
So that means by federal law we must be parked for 10 hours, after that we can only drive 11 hours. After the 11 or 14 hour rule kicks in we must park for another 10 hours.
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Truck parking shortages are a national safety concern. Commercial truck drivers need access to safe, secure, and accessible truck parking. With the projected growth of truck traffic, the demand for truck parking will continue to outpace the supply of public and private parking facilities and will only exacerbate the truck parking problems experienced in many regions.
An inadequate supply of truck parking spaces can result in negative consequences. Tired truck drivers may continue to drive because they have difficulty finding a place to park for rest. Truck drivers may choose to park at unsafe locations, such as on the shoulder of the road, exit ramps, or vacant lots, if they are unable to locate official, available parking.
Numerous public, private, academic and non-profit studies have been completed on the adequacy of truck parking, and these studies have some common findings including an expected growth in truck activity, severe shortages of parking for trucks, lack of information on truck parking opportunities, and challenges due to limited delivery windows and specific rest requirements. The links below provide information to the programs and activities authorized that support truck parking, as well as the reports, surveys and historical information for truck parking.
In many parts of the country there are more trucks than parking spaces, a lot of customers won?t allow onsite parking such as Walmart DCs, even if you are dead tired and out of legal drive time you are forced off thier property. The FMCSA has addressed this problem like this,
quote:Question 26: Under what circumstances may a driver operate a commercial motor vehicle (CMV) as a personal conveyance?
Guidance: A driver may record time operating a CMV for personal conveyance (i.e., for personal use or reasons) as off-duty only when the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work by the motor carrier. The CMV may be used for personal conveyance even if it is laden, since the load is not being transported for the commercial benefit of the carrier at that time. Personal conveyance does not reduce a driver?s or motor carrier?s responsibility to operate a CMV safely. Motor carriers can establish personal conveyance limitations either within the scope of, or more restrictive than, this guidance, such as banning use of a CMV for personal conveyance purposes, imposing a distance limitation on personal conveyance, or prohibiting personal conveyance while the CMV is laden.
Examples of Appropriate Uses of a CMV While Off-duty for Personal Conveyance
The following are examples of appropriate uses of a CMV while off-duty for personal conveyance include, but are not limited to:
Time spent traveling from a driver?s en route lodging (such as a motel or truck stop) to restaurants and entertainment facilities.
Commuting between the driver?s terminal and his or her residence, between trailer-drop lots and the driver?s residence, and between work sites and his or her residence. In these scenarios, the commuting distance combined with the release from work and start to work times must allow the driver enough time to obtain the required restorative rest as to ensure the driver is not fatigued.
Time spent traveling to a nearby, reasonable, safe location to obtain required rest after loading or unloading. The time driving under personal conveyance must allow the driver adequate time to obtain the required rest in accordance with minimum off-duty periods under 49 CFR 395.3(a)(1) (property-carrying vehicles) or 395.5(a) (passenger-carrying vehicles) before returning to on-duty driving, and the resting location must be the first such location reasonably available.
Moving a CMV at the request of a safety official during the driver?s off-duty time
Time spent traveling in a motorcoach without passengers to en route lodging (such as motel or truck stop), or to restaurants and entertainment facilities and back to the lodging. In this scenario, the driver of the motorcoach can claim personal conveyance provided the driver is off-duty. Other off-duty drivers may be on board the vehicle, and are not considered passengers.
Time spent transporting personal property while off-duty.
Authorized use of a CMV to travel home after working at an offsite location.
So, is taking a truck parking spot a good idea? Well you make that decision. Just don?t be a Richard and put your slideouts out taking more than one spot. I?ve seen people do this, take 3 spots so they can fully deploy thier camper. Another one is ?convoying?, having your wife follow you in rhe car and then parking that car in a lone spot, pure buttholiness.
You can park that RV or camper in places we cannot, we are limited greatly on where we are allowed to park. Many states issue heavy fines for parking on ramps, parking in businesses can get a boot put on the truck or towed, cops run us off of streets all the time. North Carolina has a suit against the state right now for forcing a truck driver to leave a ramp, that driver was in a crash shortly after killing a car driver because he fell asleep. Many weigh stations won?t allow parking, they force you to break the law then write tickets.
We were safer when we could cheat, these electronic logs forcing 100% compliance to a set of laws that are wrong makes the roads less safe, but there are people(a few here) that welcome this heavy handed enforcement and could care less about the problems we face, they say ?follow the law you damned criminal!? Yeah, screw you.
For the record, I never said I put out slide-outs or spent the night. I said I parked there to eat or take a piss because I could not fit in regular parking spaces with the trailer attached.
I plan well enough to have a reservation at an RV site for nightly stays.
Ol' Specialist acts as if I said I parked in the spots just to piss truckers off. Reading comprehension is important.0 -
I was thinking of BSR and Allen when I passed the weigh station this afternoon and trucks were lined up along the highway.
Does the waiting time at a WS count against your 10 hours?0 -
quote:Originally posted by SW0320
I was thinking of BSR and Allen when I passed the weigh station this afternoon and trucks were lined up along the highway.
Does the waiting time at a WS count against your 10 hours?
When you start your day, as in logging On Duty for Pre Trip, fuel, load/unload or simply stsrt to drive that 14 hour clock begins ticking and rhe only way to stop it is to log Sleeper Berth for 8 hours which is stupid.
Now once you are On Duty or On Duty Driving the 14 is rolling, if you are On Duty Driving then the 11 is ticking. Now the law states ELD equipped trucks must automaticaly go to On Duty Driving at 5MPH although half of the industry is in violation by allowing distance or a higher speed before logging. It also, depending on the ELD you are using takes up to 30 seconds before you can manually switch to Off Duty from driving, so when you are in stop and go traffic it is a fight and nearly impossible to stop that 11 let alone the 14.
It is so complicated, the rules are written to where if you only read summaries you will not get the entire meaning. To me logging makes sense since I have done it so long, the ELD was an easy transition however it is an electronic tracking devise that law enforcement have access to and we must surrender all data logged by the ELD to any officer requesting it, it?s a clear violation of constitutional protections. The motoring public freaked over DUI checkpoints but what we deal with is 10000Xs greater than a DUI checkpoint. The feds sent a DOT officer to my house for an audit, really?!?!? I?m just a one truck chump but am treated by the law as a giant corp. I am cursed by my number, one bad inspection and I?m out of business but Swift can get 5 a day and never even blip the feds radar. The laws are geared to protect large carriers, to punish small outfits, the FMCSA is crooked and is the ATAs legal puppet.0 -
When I have to pull in to a scale where there is a wait, or if I am in a traffic jam, I just switch the computer to "Off."
So I can be in a jam for 10 minutes, or an hour, and it doesn't go against my driving time, the 11 hour clock.
Of course meanwhile my 14 hour clock is still running.
I have gotten good at gaming the computer time log I am real good at it.0 -
Youquote:Originally posted by chollagardens
I have been doing a lot of traveling with a trailer. When I stop at the rest stops I notice a lot of autos park in the area for trucks and trailers. If I need to use the restroom and there is no parking and there are autos parked in the truck spaces is one thing but if I need to sleep for a hour or two and either unable to park or wake up with a auto parked next to me I wonder if there is a reason beyond inconsiderate.
Are there any problems connected with autos parking in the truck/trailer parking spaces?
I have a friend that manages a Truck Stop. He was telling me that he goes out and pounds on RVs doors that park in the parking stalls reserved for professional truck drivers to wake them up and move. He says his company did not invest in that real estate to create a free RV park for all the tightwad inconsiderate RV owners that think that's what it's there for.
So as you see, you are one of those tightwad inconsiderate RV owners that thinks that the designated parking stalls for professional truck drivers are there for you to use as a free RV Park.0 -
Just have to say Since I rarely pull a trailer I park in the short slots. Plus here in Oregon if you park in the truck spots it can be a long walk to the bathroom from their spots. 0 -
Thanks for all the replies. They are not what I expected but I learned a lot and I'm sure others did as well. I used to do gun shows about 40 weeks a year and traveled with a trailer. At that time I did not notice any problems with autos in Truck/car/trailer parking spaces. Now I have been hauling military surplus in a truck/16 foot trailer from San Diego Ca to Cochise county Az. The trip is about 12 hours and the trailer is open. My two concerns are theft and smugglers stashing stuff in my trailer so as to get past the check points. Since no one mentioned these then even though it is a concern I figure it is not a major concern. FYI When I stop at a rest stop if I have to use the restroom my stop is 5-10 minutes max and if I HAVE to sleep 45 minutes to 2 hours is the max.
I see a partial solution to trucker parking problems.
Make it a infraction for autos to park in truck parking spots and enforce it. The powers that be are always anxious to generate more revenue.0 -
quote:Originally posted by remingtonoaks
Youquote:Originally posted by chollagardens
I have been doing a lot of traveling with a trailer. When I stop at the rest stops I notice a lot of autos park in the area for trucks and trailers. If I need to use the restroom and there is no parking and there are autos parked in the truck spaces is one thing but if I need to sleep for a hour or two and either unable to park or wake up with a auto parked next to me I wonder if there is a reason beyond inconsiderate.
Are there any problems connected with autos parking in the truck/trailer parking spaces?
I have a friend that manages a Truck Stop. He was telling me that he goes out and pounds on RVs doors that park in the parking stalls reserved for professional truck drivers to wake them up and move. He says his company did not invest in that real estate to create a free RV park for all the tightwad inconsiderate RV owners that think that's what it's there for.
So as you see, you are one of those tightwad inconsiderate RV owners that thinks that the designated parking stalls for professional truck drivers are there for you to use as a free RV Park.
Maybe you should pay attention to what this topic is about.........Or is this all to much for your 79 year old mind to sort out?0 -
quote:Originally posted by Horse Plains Drifter
quote:Originally posted by remingtonoaks
Youquote:Originally posted by chollagardens
I have been doing a lot of traveling with a trailer. When I stop at the rest stops I notice a lot of autos park in the area for trucks and trailers. If I need to use the restroom and there is no parking and there are autos parked in the truck spaces is one thing but if I need to sleep for a hour or two and either unable to park or wake up with a auto parked next to me I wonder if there is a reason beyond inconsiderate.
Are there any problems connected with autos parking in the truck/trailer parking spaces?
I have a friend that manages a Truck Stop. He was telling me that he goes out and pounds on RVs doors that park in the parking stalls reserved for professional truck drivers to wake them up and move. He says his company did not invest in that real estate to create a free RV park for all the tightwad inconsiderate RV owners that think that's what it's there for.
So as you see, you are one of those tightwad inconsiderate RV owners that thinks that the designated parking stalls for professional truck drivers are there for you to use as a free RV Park.
Maybe you should pay attention to what this topic is about.........Or is this all to much for your 79 year old mind to sort out?
Maybe you ought to read the part of his post that I highlighted in red, then my post would make sense to you. Or is that too much to ask of your mind... Sheesh, what a troll0 -
quote:Originally posted by remingtonoaks
quote:Originally posted by Horse Plains Drifter
quote:Originally posted by remingtonoaks
Youquote:Originally posted by chollagardens
I have been doing a lot of traveling with a trailer. When I stop at the rest stops I notice a lot of autos park in the area for trucks and trailers. If I need to use the restroom and there is no parking and there are autos parked in the truck spaces is one thing but if I need to sleep for a hour or two and either unable to park or wake up with a auto parked next to me I wonder if there is a reason beyond inconsiderate.
Are there any problems connected with autos parking in the truck/trailer parking spaces?
I have a friend that manages a Truck Stop. He was telling me that he goes out and pounds on RVs doors that park in the parking stalls reserved for professional truck drivers to wake them up and move. He says his company did not invest in that real estate to create a free RV park for all the tightwad inconsiderate RV owners that think that's what it's there for.
So as you see, you are one of those tightwad inconsiderate RV owners that thinks that the designated parking stalls for professional truck drivers are there for you to use as a free RV Park.
Maybe you should pay attention to what this topic is about.........Or is this all to much for your 79 year old mind to sort out?
Maybe you ought to read the part of his post that I highlighted in red, then my post would make sense to you. Or is that too much to ask of your mind... Sheesh, what a troll
How are they designated?
Are the areas posted?
I have never noticed the large spots designated as 'professional truck drivers only', just for vehicles that won't fit into the car sized spots.0 -
quote:Originally posted by remingtonoaks
Youquote:Originally posted by chollagardens
I have been doing a lot of traveling with a trailer. When I stop at the rest stops I notice a lot of autos park in the area for trucks and trailers. If I need to use the restroom and there is no parking and there are autos parked in the truck spaces is one thing but if I need to sleep for a hour or two and either unable to park or wake up with a auto parked next to me I wonder if there is a reason beyond inconsiderate.
Are there any problems connected with autos parking in the truck/trailer parking spaces?
I have a friend that manages a Truck Stop. He was telling me that he goes out and pounds on RVs doors that park in the parking stalls reserved for professional truck drivers to wake them up and move. He says his company did not invest in that real estate to create a free RV park for all the tightwad inconsiderate RV owners that think that's what it's there for.
So as you see, you are one of those tightwad inconsiderate RV owners that thinks that the designated parking stalls for professional truck drivers are there for you to use as a free RV Park.
Hummm, I'm thinking if I filled my RV with fuel, bought food and drink, etc. at this jerk's truck stop, I'd tell him to kiss my ass and go back to bed. Unless there is a sign stating that parking is for semi trucks only, too bad. Yeah, I guess he could make me leave the property, and I would, but not before getting a name to give corporate when I called the next day.0 -
I park in the expecting mother?s spot every chance I get. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by RobOz
I park in the expecting mother?s spot every chance I get.
Yes, but are they designated parking stalls for expectant mothers.0 -
I got one of the &%$#@$!! right here. 
Just took this pic at the big TA Truck Stop in El Paso.
It doesn't bother me much when these guys park like this. The TA is in business to make money. This RV parks here for the night, obviously he is a guy with money. He is going to buy some stuff in the store same as a truck driver.0 -
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
I got one of the &%$#@$!! right here.
Just took this pic at the big TA Truck Stop in El Paso.
It doesn't bother me much when these guys park like this. The TA is in business to make money. This RV parks here for the night, obviously he is a guy with money. He is going to buy some stuff in the store same as a truck driver.
I heard they don't carry a spare tire or 2. [}:)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by remingtonoaks
Maybe you ought to read the part of his post that I highlighted in red, then my post would make sense to you. Or is that too much to ask of your mind... Sheesh, what a troll
Maybe you ought to figure out that the OP is talking about Public rest areas along highways and interstates. These are funded by taxpayer dollars, and owned/run by the state government of whichever state they are in. They are open to any and all motorists.
You felt it necessary to bring up some dude who runs/owns a PRIVATE truck stop. This has nothing to do with what the op was talking about. Ok old man?0 -
quote:Originally posted by Horse Plains Drifter
quote:Originally posted by remingtonoaks
Maybe you ought to read the part of his post that I highlighted in red, then my post would make sense to you. Or is that too much to ask of your mind... Sheesh, what a troll
Maybe you ought to figure out that the OP is talking about Public rest areas along highways and interstates. These are funded by taxpayer dollars, and owned/run by the state government of whichever state they are in. They are open to any and all motorists.
You felt it necessary to bring up some dude who runs/owns a PRIVATE truck stop. This has nothing to do with what the op was talking about. Ok old man?
I heard that with my bad ear! [:D]0 -
I'm going to chime in again. As a trucker driver that pulls a 5th travel trailer and a goose neck utility trailer. When ever I pull those behind me, I keep out of rest area. This give someone a chance that is driving a semi a place to park. I know how hard it is to found a place to park and anyone that parks in the rest area with a rv or a utility trailer in my book is a a$$.
And someone stated that I think I own the interstate, yes, because the interstates was built for military and commerce use. Plus we pay far more taxes then a car does.
Rob0 -
I park my pickup and trailer in the spaces. No where else on car side will work 0 -
quote:Originally posted by spec.4
I'm going to chime in again. As a trucker driver that pulls a 5th travel trailer and a goose neck utility trailer. When ever I pull those behind me, I keep out of rest area. This give someone a chance that is driving a semi a place to park. I know how hard it is to found a place to park and anyone that parks in the rest area with a rv or a utility trailer in my book is a a$$.
And someone stated that I think I own the interstate, yes, because the interstates was built for military and commerce use. Plus we pay far more taxes then a car does.
Rob
See, this is trucker jerk syndrome right here. He pays taxes so he is more important then everyone else who also pays taxes.0
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