Interesting antique single shot
Antique Custom Remington Rolling Block .44 Magnum Real Beauty 44Mag No FFL - Antique Guns at GunBroker.com : 969942625
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Way past my budget but I like it.
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Way past my budget but I like it.
Have a drink. Don
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0 Bids, so it looks like others feels the same way , too much money for it being built by an unknown gunsmith
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I really like that, but not enough to bid.
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Perhaps the "ships to your door" aspect commands a premium?
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That is VERY nice. (I like the unique.) If I were more flush at the moment, I would bid on that. I've bought about $3K worth in the last 7 mo. (Not too much for some of you, but a tidy sum, for me.)
Still, very tempting. 🤔
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You'uns is Enablers.
Dang it.
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Interesting for sure !
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Pretty cool
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Took a chance on a Martini 45-90 rebuild. I couldn't believe my luck when I received it.
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The Uniqueness factor won out.
I'm in, for the entry fee.
*If anyone else here is interested, by all means bid. Do not let me inhibit/stop you. 👍
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I didn't know that the .44 Magnum cartridge had been around since 1898.
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Re- barreled. Re-worked, by a Gunsmith for himself, by himself. Pretty much everything besides the receiver, replaced.
Personally, I though it was pretty clear. 🤔
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He is selling it as an antique. But as long as it is clear to you. But I am not sure it qualifies as an antique since it has been converted to a modern caliber. So, it is not clear to me. But I could be wrong.
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Receiver, is the "Weapon." (Unless) I am mistaken. You are (of course) more in tune with the ATF rules/regulations than I am. (I defer to your judgment/wisdom.)
I have no problem, (if won,) having it go through an FFL. (Although that would cost an additional $35.)
*Direct ship is not a Deal Killer.
The attraction was not the "Antique," nomenclature, just to be clear.
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Transfer through an FFL, figure that cost into total of what you're willing to pay, and be done .
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I always do @montanajoe. 🤔
This one seems to have a question mark about it. (Hence the discussion.)
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Hmm..'-all exterior markings were removed-'. So it has no serial number?
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Due to it's age it may have not had a serial number.
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Ricci you are right, Elmer Keith and Smith and Wesson developed the round in the early/mid fifties. No way it can be an antique?
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Antique cartridge arms are determined by the date and year the receiver/action was manufactured. To qualify they must have been manufactured before 1898. I.E. you can take an 1866 Springfield trap door originally in 50-70 caliber and rebarrel it for 6.5 Creedmore ( just an example, don't do it) or the new .350 Legend and it is still classified as an antique. Another example of how stupid the law is, an 1873 Winchester manufactured before 1898 is an antique. The same gun made in 1899 or later is considered modern and doesn't qualify. Also, all muzzle loaders are considered antique, even replicas. As of todays date ennyway!!! Subject to change, get 'em while you can.
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Thats good information. Stupid, but good.
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Thanks @elubsme, that was my understanding as well. Nice to hear someone else acknowledge/affirm it though. Ricci did have me second guessing that aspect. "Converted to a modern cartridge." I also (as did you) felt that it was the receiver that mattered. Thanks for chiming in Sir.
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Hmmmm, interesting. In order to qualify for C&R, a firearm must be in it's original, unaltered condition. So an antique is still considered an antique, if it only still has it's original receiver? There were so many made early on w/o a serial number, how could you tell an original?
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Unaware of the requirements as to C&R @toad67/Todd, as I do not have a C&R nor have ever sought them out.
Interesting information though. Any other FFL's willing to chime in on "your opinion," of Legality of non-FFL transfer to an "Antique," altered in the way discussed in the OP?
I would appreciate input.
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It seems that if you had an antique, and modified the chamber so that it would shoot a readily available, modern cartridge, that it would no longer be legally an antique.
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This discussion, leaves me pondering the same question I have about one of my knives. (My EDC, by the way.)
A "Switchblade," is Illegal, (but) my S&W M/P OTF (Out The Front) Knife is Legal? Spear point, razor double edge instantly deployable knife is OK, but a "Switchblade," is not? (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.)
I appreciate hearing both sides of the argument. Feel free to chime in, if you have any insight/opinion. Not looking to get "Bent Over," on this.
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Rechamber it to .444... Then you will have a real thumper...
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toad67: 30364634587035/comments/
Hmmmm, interesting. In order to qualify for C&R, a firearm must be in it's original, unaltered condition. So an antique is still considered an antique, if it only still has it's original receiver? There were so many made early on w/o a serial number, how could you tell an original?
One way is if the particular model was discontinued before 1898. Peabody, Spencer, Colt rifles, 1881 & '87 Marlins, 1866 Winchesters Etc.
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allen griggs: 30364634587035/comments/
It seems that if you had an antique, and modified the chamber so that it would shoot a readily available, modern cartridge, that it would no longer be legally an antique.
@allen griggs , You are talking common sense here. Something that gun laws have never been able to comprehend!
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I don't think that it would qualify as an antique, since it shoots ammunition that "is available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade".
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