Kimber 82 Government model rifles
AFAIK the CMP is the only original source for these rifles. I have heard and read from a number of sources that they were developed and made in the late 80's for JROTC and ROTC marksmanship teams all over the US. Since our government has abandoned us in marksmanship and many other ways, they decided never to distribute these to the schools, and therefore were given to the CMP to sell to CMP affiliates (not necessarily a club member). There were times when the CMP also sold other fine (used or LNIB) rifles that were easily bought in quantity by dealers trying to make easy money, and their requirements and quantity limits have not always been strict.
Now I have noticed many of these Kimber 82's listed for sale on several websites, including the most popular as you may have guessed, for around $1000 dollars. This I find to be taking advantage of a good thing that was meant for beginning shooters. These rifles were and still are sold complete and NIB with accessories (some missing sights, don't know if they were pilfered or what) for no more than $600 plus $22 s/h. They may have sold for less years ago, maybe someone could verify. I just think it is a detriment to shooters who might want these but can't afford them now that they have been snatched up by dealers and sold for twice the original price, and it's a loss to many who can't afford them at that price. The sole purpose of the CMP sales program is to get the goods to the shooters who will use it, not to gready dealers. A good firearms retailer can make good money even today without having to go this route.
I am not saying that gun dealers are always the middle men in gun trading, but some things should be left to the CMP shooters as they are intended. It's bad enough that the gov. and anti-gun nuts are trying to keep us, especially young people, all out of the shooting sports and to get rid of guns any way possible, including imposing restrictions, laws, and suing innocent companies which all attribute to the current rising costs of firearms and equipment.
What do you all think (those who know this subject), and if you object, please explain fully why you disagree, and not just an empty response.
Now I have noticed many of these Kimber 82's listed for sale on several websites, including the most popular as you may have guessed, for around $1000 dollars. This I find to be taking advantage of a good thing that was meant for beginning shooters. These rifles were and still are sold complete and NIB with accessories (some missing sights, don't know if they were pilfered or what) for no more than $600 plus $22 s/h. They may have sold for less years ago, maybe someone could verify. I just think it is a detriment to shooters who might want these but can't afford them now that they have been snatched up by dealers and sold for twice the original price, and it's a loss to many who can't afford them at that price. The sole purpose of the CMP sales program is to get the goods to the shooters who will use it, not to gready dealers. A good firearms retailer can make good money even today without having to go this route.
I am not saying that gun dealers are always the middle men in gun trading, but some things should be left to the CMP shooters as they are intended. It's bad enough that the gov. and anti-gun nuts are trying to keep us, especially young people, all out of the shooting sports and to get rid of guns any way possible, including imposing restrictions, laws, and suing innocent companies which all attribute to the current rising costs of firearms and equipment.
What do you all think (those who know this subject), and if you object, please explain fully why you disagree, and not just an empty response.
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Wouldn't this be a subject for discussion over on the CMP forums? If I recall correctly Uncle Sam was at one time very busy grinding these and many other fine surplus rifles into dust. IMHO any of these ex-US military guns that manage to escape Capt. Crunch (as I think that machine used to be called) and get it into the hands of a free Amrican, dealer sale or not, is a victory for gun owners and a loss to those who'd prefer that all guns be turned into scrap. Most of what I know about this subject was related to me by former member Mark Christian who told me that many thousands of fine M1s were at one point being destroyed rather than sold to civilians. 0 -
Thanks for the tidbit kristov, I heard that about the Garands as well as many a M16 and lots of others were ground up. I wonder how much is true, and what condition the rifles were in, but that is a different subject. I have posted this on the CMP forum as well, and it is as relivant here as it is there.
I think we all are fortunate to get these rifles back from the gov. that turns our tax dollars into dust, but these are not given back, they are distributed for a reasonable price through the CMP (once DCM). Are we to expect unreasonable treatment as Americans? I don't think so. Most of us worked very hard to bring good things to our communities, but I am not asking who is fortunate and who is not. On to the main topic. . .0
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