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  • tazzer
    Got to finally get some range time in and scrounged up enough .357SIG to try my Glock G32 out. All I can say to the Glock haters is you're missing out on FUN! I'd never shot that caliber before. I was expecting bad recoil...farthest thing from it. Very accurate(for me). No jams or failures of any kind with it. Definately have enough confidence to carry it. I do need to get a Lone Wolf barrel in .40 though as that ammo is cheaper and easier to get but that .357SIG is a winner of a caliber. Ammo was Hornady Critical Defense. I did experience my first factory centerfire dud. I had 1 round of .380 Hornady that would not light off. I have hundreds of rounds through the LCP with no failures til this one. Definately gets in your head that this could happen at the worst time so it pays to practice a drill where you get a dud. The .44 Special Bisley is lots of fun and thinking I may use it for deer hunting. The .22 is fun as always..and Cabelas actually had a ton of CCI Mini Mags in stock.

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  • tazzer
    Finally got a chance to shoot my S&W Model 10-6. 4" heavy barrel.
    I love it.
    Shoots far easier than any of my Sigs. Cut the center dot out at 25 feet

    I could knock down the 6" plates at will.
    I'm shooting my cast reloads and it just ate them up.
    I am more than thrilled.
    I will see my father in law and thank him again for his generosity in giving me the gun.
    I put a set of mother-of-pearl grips on and she's beautiful as well.

    Not smart enough to post pics from my Kindle
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  • tazzer
    well...i've had my first gun for about a month now and have finally gotten to take it to the range and get some time with it.


    this is me with my pa-63
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    this is my first target.....all green dots are my fiance's attempt
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  • tazzer
    A while back I promised to give a range report on the .22-250 I purchased, so here it is. I can't wait to see what some of my reloads will do.
    Gun--Remington SPS Varmint .22-250(26" heavy bbl)
    Ammo--Remington UMC 45 Gr. JHP
    Range--100 yard
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    Jon
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  • tazzer
    Well, I finally had the freetime to take my new Marlin 1895 45-70 out to the range the other day. It was an eventful trip and a nice walk through the Knee deep snow to get to the bench and target, but well worth it[:D]. I shot about 15 shots with Hornady Leverevolution ammo with good results. Zero jams and a pretty decent 3 shot group for shooting freehand (had sandbags with me, but that is a long story) at 25 yards. The square is roughly an inch and a half. Lets' just say I was definitely impressed and I think that I may have a new favorite gun[:0]. The only thing that I can see doing in the future is maybe ordering a set of ghost ring sites to throw on it.
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    Jon
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  • tazzer
    I finally made it the range today, but only had 1/2 an hour to spare. Took the new Beretta 9000S-F in .40 S&W and the Ruger Security Six in .357. The Beretta Neos remains unfired at this point. [V]

    I did OK with the Security Six at 15 yards -- 3" group. With a 2" barrel, I figure that is acceptable. This was also with the factory grips, which were not unpleasant to shoot. I did install a set of Hogue Monogrips this evening, so I'll be interested to see how much of a difference they make.

    The 9000S-F is another story, and I think it needs another trip to the range. I don't know if is the gun or me. I shot it last, and I was running out of free time. Most of my shots were low and to the left. If I aimed at the head of the target, I was able to hit the center consistently with S&B 180 Gr FMJ. With Federal Premium 180 Grain HydraShocks, I was all over the place -- always on target, but no consistency. I picked up some Remington Golden Sabers to see if they make a difference.
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  • tazzer
    Just returned from the range, shot the Glock 17, The Smith and wesson 10mm, and the Taurus Millinium Pro 9 mm

    Glock was right on, needed a little right sight adjustment then it was right on the money.

    The Smith 10mm not too bad, kept em in the black, nice feel to this one

    The Taurus, leaves a little to be desired for accuracy, but again not a bad feeling pistol..

    Either one of the three , I wouldnt hesitate to use..
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  • tazzer
    Okay, so I finally got to the range with some stuff other than just my carry weapon. My dad has been up for the week for a visit. We had hoped to get out to the outdoor range, but the weather was not cooperating. We ended up going to the indoor range instead. We had to justify him packing all those weapons in his truck for the trip after all. [:)]

    First up: Glock 23 (with a twist): I took my Storm Lake, drop in, 357 Sig barrel for my Glock 23 (40 S&W) and put about 100 rounds through it. Some might ask "Why". Well, because I can.

    Only complaint: You can't interchange the G23 magazines with the 357 Sig ammo and get the mags loaded to full capacity. The follower is different. 10 round G23 (40 S&W) magazines become 8 round 357 Sig mags and 13 round G23 mags become 10 round 357 Sig. I will have to buy some G32 mags so I can get 13+1 357 Sig rounds into that G23 frame.

    Recoil, using "range ammo" was similar to my 40 S&W ammo. The indoor range only has 25 yard capacity. Out to 25 yards my groups with ball ammo 40 and 357 were very similar, except for the size of the hole in the paper terrorist I was shooting.

    Other than the drop in barrel, I used the factory plastic guide rod and spring for about 50 rounds and then swapped it for my stainless guide rod and 13lb spring. No difference in function or felt recoil.

    If you plan on doing this, check the Glock forums and the serial number of your G23. Some of the older frames are not recommended to change over to 357 Sig. If you have a Gen 3 or Gen 4 you for sure can. IIRC correctly Gen 1 and some Gen 2's are not recommended for conversion.

    Next up, the Dan Wesson 15-2 357 Mag revolver I got from Locust Fork. I test fired it with 38 Special as soon as I got it, but 357 Magnum rounds are hard to come by. I finally got some last week, so it was nice to put some down range.

    This weapon has the big wood grip on it, a nice fit for my paws. After I fired the first round, I was not sure if I had bought a 357 magnum or a flame thrower! The 357 sig rounds had a nice little fireball out the barrel of my G23, but it was nothing compared to that 357 Magnum!

    I was surprised that I could keep a group of shots inside the torso with the 2.5" barrel on the DW 15 with magnum rounds. I recently acquired the tool kit and a 6" barrel and shroud for that little baby. At 25 yards I was putting some nice tight groups in the head and heart area when firing single action. Double action trigger is not unmanageable, but single action is sweet for keeping a tight group. Very impressive pistol. I now need to get some more barrel assembly's for that thing.

    Next up: Savage Model 24 O/U 22LR and 410 combo. This one I also got from Kasey. My first O/U combo gun. My dad had one like this when he was a kid. When I let him handle that rifle, you could almost see his trip down memory lane while he looked it over. He told me that was the rifle he preferred when his mom would send him and his brother out after squirrels and rabbits.

    So, I started out with just one 22 LR round chambered. Pulled the trigger and got nothing. Second strike got ignition and lift off. That was the only malfunction, and I attribute it to the cheap 22 ammo I was using. Next, 410 2.5" target rounds. No problem, and my terrorist was now peppered with tiny little holes from head to groin at a range of about 15 yards.

    I varied my 410 ammo from 2.5" to 3" as well as 000 buck and rifled slugs. It took them all flawlessly. That old rifle performed great and still locks up tight.

    Dad and I traded around our weapons and blew the heck out of some paper terrorists for a couple of hours. It was a good day.
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  • tazzer
    First time I've been to the range in a couple years. Pocket pistols both fired all rounds (that had been in the guns for ages)

    I function fired some .38 snubbies. All seemed to hit more-or-less at point of aim., but the Rock Island Colt style won't function in double action.

    I was extremely pleased with the Rock Island 1911 9mm (first 9mm auto I've ever owned). Very tight groups.

    Rock Island 1911 .22 was very disappointing repeated failure to extract. I was limited on time as I didn't get to the range until almost sundown so I didn't spend any time trying to make it work.
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  • tazzer
    Finally got some Hornady 44 mag leverevolution Henry Big boy loves them about 3" high at 100 yds compared to remington corelokts nice group for open sights and old eyes my model 29 grouped real good too the colt anconda didn't like them ran out before I could try them in the ruger carbine. forgot to bring camera this time hopefully get pictures of targets next time
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  • tazzer
    went to the range today and took only three guns along,, the new little Beretta with the long barrel, never a malfunction, the sights leave a lot to be desired, but managed to keep the shots in a 6 inch circle at 20 yds.

    The Smith 686, 2 1/2 inch .357, lotta bang, sorta accurate for that kind of gun,, nothing to brag about

    The Smith K.22 masterpiece, model 17 shoots as pictured below,, 20 yds one hand, standing, Ifn I wasnt so old and shakey, I probably could hit the target.[:0]

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  • tazzer
    I received my Mosin Nagant
    and took it to the
    field, My friend and hid boy loved
    it.I shot nice and accurate once
    we got used to the "take up"
    in the trigger.Shooting this relic
    is quite a bit of fun.I"m used to
    bull barrels with strong scopes but
    I tell ya, I'm looking forward to the
    next outing and also looking for another
    military rifle.I"m gonna buy another,they're
    inexpensive and I'll lose mine,I'm sure as soon
    as my grandson shoots it.
    Question:I shot non-corrosive ammo.
    Just how difficult is it and what do you use
    and how thorough are you cleaning your rifle
    after using corrosive ammo?
    Thank-rong
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  • tazzer
    Just got back from the range.
    I was able to take out that mini - 14 I have been looking at. Very very, very nice rifle. A definite tack driver, but, neither of the mags that he had for it would feed at all. So we used it as a single shot... gonna go to the gun shop tomorrow and see what I can get a couple of mags for, just to make sure it is only a problem with the magazines. Also took several of the .45's out, the Sig and a couple of Colt's. Every time I fire the Sig, I fall in love with it again, not that Colts aren't nice, jhust the Sig is so smooooooth. Anyway, a good time was had by my sons and I.



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  • tazzer
    took the wife to ft lee skeet range to derust some shotguns. wife shot 2 games with her 20ga M50 and i shot 4 games with my M12 16ga. perfect day. talked with some joes' up from bragg and they tell me not eveyone in 82nd airborne is airborne any more. theyre hurting so bad for men, they take legs. they tell me airborne troopers have to beg SPECOPS for jumps. sad indeed.
    anyway, i had lunch in the shade, drove around town, and headed back home with my best friend in the world. [:X]
    leaves are starting to change. its gonna get nice in a month.
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  • tazzer
    Took Mom and Dawnie to the shooting range yesterday. Main purpose was to make sure Mom can shoot well enough to pass her upcoming CHL renewal.

    Mom liked the .32. She said it still hurt her hand, but not as bad as the .38, so it will become hers after it is cleaned.

    On the Texas CHL course, Mom shot 89 and Dawnie shot 75. It was Dawnie's first time to ever shoot a handgun. She wants to do it again, of course, as long as she gets to shoot a gun that doesn't kick.

    SIG pistol armorer/FFL Dealer/Full time Peace Officer, Moderator of General Discussion Board on Gunbroker. Visit www.gunbroker.com, the best gun auction site on the Net! Email davidnunn@texoma.net
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  • tazzer
    My son and I went to the range yesterday. I gave him a Savage 30-06 from my gun cabinet as a high school graduation present. We lined it up to 150 grain rounds (I had used 180 grain) and he was shooting 1 1/2" groups at 100 yards, not bad considering the wind was gusting and irratic. I have put about 40 rounds through my Tikka 300 wsm and it has broke is fairly well it seems, I was shooting 1 1/4 inch groups and considering the wind I was very happy with that. We were using cheap (is there such a thing) ammo so like I said I was ahppy with the groups.

    We aslo shot my Ruger 454. It's a nice piece and I didn't realize my son had never shot it before. He had fun with the 454 loads and suprised me with his accuracy, but then he has had a good teacher.[:D] He then proceded to have a lot of fun shooting a 50 round box of 45lc through it. The range is an open public range, in the country, with lots of plinking targets available. We had it to ourselves most of the time we were there. So he practiced drawing and firing at various targets. And I have to say with a little practice he will most likely out shoot dad. But then dad could use a little more practice myself, I will not make it easy for him.

    We then took turn shooting a 22 mag rifle I brought along and we put about 120 rounds through that and called it a day.

    It was a good day.
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  • tazzer
    Took my Rem 700 270 and 308 out
    of moth balls to see if my jitters
    have settled down any.
    At a 100 yds the targets
    looked like they were hit
    with a ten inch pattern of
    buck shot.wobble ,wobble
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  • tazzer
    Well this weekend my BOL & I went out to the Wenas shooting area to do some target shooting and I packed along my Taurus 850 for a little range work for it as well. The temp was in the low 30's & snow everywhere. The new ammo I wanted to try out was Buffalo Bore 158 grain .38 +p, they are a lead hollowpoint that supposedly go out at 1000fps/351 ft lbs.
    All I can say is OUCH!!! Those things are definately not for the faint of heart or recoil shy/first time shooters or the ladies. I have been carrying 140 grain Hornady standard velocity loads and thought ok maybe I should step up the power scale. I think they had more felt recoil than some .357's. I dunno that I'm going to keep using them as powerful as they may be, I might have trouble with follow up shots if needed. Accuracy out of them is standard snubbie, which is to say they will do the job at 7 yards. I have also used the Speer Gold Dot for short barrel revolver but they had tons of muzzle flash(contrary to Speers' propaganda regarding that). We did also see some elk up on a hill and to my suprise they could have cared less that people were shooting.
    There were quiet a few people, including my BOL, trying to hit a metal target that is 600 yards out and very few folks could hit it consistently. Even if they have whatever the new flavor of the month elk killer in .300 Super Ultra Short Mag or 7mm Maximum Rocket Mag which proves my point that FEW shooters should be trying to take an animal much past 300 or 400 yards unless they can consistently hit that 500-600 target more than 1 shot in 20.[:D]
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  • tazzer
    Here is my sight in target for my Remington M700 5R Mil-spec barrel in 7.62x51. I started at 25yds. and moved it out to 100yd once I had the zero close. All shots taken with Winchester 150 grain power point. I will be switching to a 168gr. bthp as soon as I get my reload supplies. I also included a picture of the rifle.
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  • tazzer
    Went to a local indoor range nearby here today. Not my normal range, but these are nice guys. Wanted to try some different .45 loads (all hollowpoints). The rangemaster says "no hollopoints unless you're the only one on the line" (they've had problems with them fraggin'). Okay, no problem. I understood.

    Well, I only had two other pistols I wanted to shoot. One was my little .25 auto, and that was fun. The other was my Ruger SBH .44 mag. I asked if it was okay, and they were fine with it (provided I was shooting FMJ's...and I was).

    There are 8 lanes. Shortly after I got done shooting my .25, a couple new guys came in. One was an instructor, the other was a student. I was cleaning up some brass and making my range bag orderly while he was instructing his student.

    It took me a few minutes to get ready to shoot with the .44 mag. I loaded up six rounds and took the target out to 25 yards. They were busy plinking away with some 9mm or something. The instructor starts telling his student about how he's got some 'big' gun that he can shoot sometime when he learns the "rules". I didn't look, but it sounded like a .357 mag (maybe). The student walks around the back of his instructor and he's watching. The guy was a good shot. He was 'x' ringing at 5 yards [:D]

    I pull up the SBH and fire one round. Fire shoots out like your usual .44 mag shot. BOOM! The student FREAKS. "GEEZUS...WHAT THE H#LL WAS THAT???" BOOM!! ... BOOM!! I hear the instructor say ... "some kind of cannon...", then he says "Bill???"

    The guy totally bolted out of the door!! He was outside! The rangemaster called to him and told him it was okay (but he later said he was even flinching and ducking outside!!!).

    I kinda felt bad for him. I hadn't even planned on shooting my .44, but because I couldn't shoot any hollowpoints, I really didn't have much choice. Besides, I hadn't shot my SBH in a couple months.

    (sorry to scare the new guy...I honestly didn't mean to).

    FCD

    "Fortes et liber"
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  • tazzer
    I took two new to me rifles to the range today. The first was a Japanese Arisaka type 99 re-barreled in 30-06. I picked this up at a pawn shop for $125.00. It has a rear Lyman peep sight that is windage and elevation adjustable. It has a very well tuned trigger and the bolt has been modified to cock on the up swing. This thing is a tack driver. At a hundred meters I stacked two on top of each other and the other two opened it up a bit to about 3". I was using Winchester store bought 165 grain SP. This thing kicks like a mule. I'll be adding a recoil pad soon.

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    The other rifle was my new JDL PTR-91. This is a sweet set up. It has a heavy trigger pull (about 9 lbs.) but other than that it's a shooter. I was shooting Sellar & Ballot 147grm FMJ. Eight of ten were in a nice group of 4 inches at 100 meters. Two were fliers that opened to 6 inches. I can live with this until I get the trigger pull reduced. Not too bad with open sights.[:D]

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    Stay Alert! Stay Alive. Good luck out there.
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  • tazzer
    I bought a new Kimber Pro Carry 2 on sunday, today I went to the indoor range and put 100 rnds down range, not alot I know but it was all I had time for. Anyway the first 21 rds went center mass at 5 yards, the next 21 went CM at 7 yards then to 15 where they were a bit more spread out but all in the chest cavity area, the rest of that box were also good hits. Changed targets and brought it back to 7 and put 3mags into the head, ran it out to 25 yrds and peppered the body of the target pretty well, I did miss 6 times or at least the shots were un-accounted for. pretty good for a new gun. I think I will hold onto this one for a long while.
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  • tazzer
    It works-[:D] Pop,pop, BVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVD
    Price is steep for an air gun, but the fun factor is worth it.[:D]
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  • tazzer
    FINALLY had some nice weather to take the PA-63 out and do some testing since I did the repairs. MAN I forgot how fun she was to shoot!!!!

    Gonna take some time to get used to the recoil again, but all in all... I kept it inside a 5 inch mark at 25ft near dusk.

    Gonna have to do some daylight shooting on my next day off to get back in the swing.

    Report 2:

    I just could not ever find ammo for that Walther P-22. Great little gun, but finding .22lr ammo around here is like hunting for the Holy Grail. I lucked out today when I stopped in at my local shop. 9 boxes!!! at $4.95 a box.. I cleaned em out. hehehehe....Was about to walk out the door when .... she....caught my eye. I looked her over. Nice, and pretty, and felt so good in my hands....and then I saw the price.........

    I said goodbye to the Walther and walked out with a brand new Ruger 10/22, mount, and scope rings!!! Now to get a beeter scope because the one I have won't focus worth a darn.. lol
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  • tazzer
    Well got the urge bad and had to hit the range. Had several Pistols
    I had never even fired.

    Targets were a 5" target with 5 per sheet. All shot a 7 yards.

    Para WartHog, Kick was not near as bad as I had been told. While its not a target Pistol I now have enough confidance in it to use it as my CCW pistol. No Jams and checking all Brass none from any pistol had any extra dents of dings in them. Also after about 100 rounds thru it my hands are just a little bit sore. But this also could be my hands are still healing from Carple Tunnel Surgery in Dec.

    S&W Sigma in a 40 Was actually surprised at how it shot most bullets stayed on the target. Trigger pull is not the greatest, but that could be the other pistols all had great triggers. This also would make a good CCW piece.

    Taurus 1911 SS While good the sights are very hard to see, Need to adjust the sights as all were left of the target. Trigger pull was ok but had a lot of slack to take up before you hit the real trigger. Almost like a 2 stage.

    Dan Wesson 15 357 used 38P+. Great trigger pull. After shooting the 45's the kick was almost like I was shooting a 22. Sights need a little work had a hard time picking up the rear sight. May need to get a New blade or repaint mine.

    Kimber Raptor Wow after shooting a couple of Mags at the target the X ring was gone. Have Houge grips and they really tame the recoil of this pistol. Fantastic trigger pull.
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  • tazzer
    Took my S-I-L to the range today. He is 30 and was in the Air Force.
    He loves his .40 glock, (Glock lucky for him)
    He promply loaded up 2 mags with his best 9mm rounds and fired 1 it would not eject. He cleared the jam and fired again it jambed. He turned to me and said this gun is f---ed up. By then I'd picked up the first jambed round and it looked like the liberty bell. Thats when I knew what he did. He said your not able to load 9mm in a 40 mag. Well you can and he did. Talk about stove piping a round through a target, I think he's lucky he hit it. Gun was not hurt (only his pride)
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  • tazzer
    Took the P-38 and my old Colt 1911A1, and a LLAMA , yes I said LLama, 1911A1 to the range,, The old Colt performed perfect as usual, the P-38 works great, but not the most accurate pistol I have fired. and suprise the LLama performed flawlessly, and was very accurate..Fired a hundred rounds through each,, Only reason I took the Colt was I had to move the rear site as it was shooting about 2 inches to the left the last time I took it to the range, and didnt have the tools with me to move the rear sight,,

    After the pistol range, went over to the trap range and Phoooey ran 71 and then missed one, so I quit at 75, as it was getting downright cold out, 39 degrees..BRRRRRRR[:0]


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  • tazzer
    Went out today for the first time in years and shot some guns my old 8mm Mauser and my brand new S&W MP40 I shot the 40 from 15 and 20yds didnt group where I wanted it to but Id bet that groups measuring 1-2 inches at that range should be possible (I never was very good with handguns) The 8mm needed to be sighted in first I sighted it in at 55 yds and I was able to get it to bullseye with every round after 8 rounds of tweaking then I moved to 150 yds and changed ammunition to get it fine tuned for deer season later on this year. Note I was using remington 170 grain round nose soft points to get on paper then I used winchester 170 grain soft points at 150yds. with the 40 I was using american eagle federal 180 grain fmj's ended up shooting 49 rounds with the 40 and 18 with the 8mm by then my shoulder just couldnt take any more of a pounding lol.

    Just thought Id post a gun topic for a change.
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  • tazzer
    Took out the Remington 1911 I purchased awhile ago. I think this one might be a good one. Only one failure while my nephew was shooting it. Ran about 60 rounds through it. It was nice. Have I finally found a 1911 that performs well out of the box[?]
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  • tazzer
    Went to the range this morning, and shot a few rounds of trap..Had to go to the SKEET/TRAP range, as the small trap range wasnt open.. I was the only trap shooter there. There was 6 Skeet shooters, and we were setting around talking before we got started, and I guess they didnt know I was a Trap shooter, and they were gripeing about Trap shooters coming in and interupting their Skeet Shooting, So I politely ask,, Hey why dont you guys shoot a round of trap and see what its all about, or are you afraid you cant hit em?? They took the challenge, Guess what, the best any of em did, was 17 of 25. I was pretty well on and got a 25 and a 24. Two packed up and left..and the other 4 insisted on shooting more TRAP, What a Fun Day...I may have converted a couple of Skeeters To Trappers..[:D]

    "when you see the enemy, you attack and shoot him down, anything less is just bull shi*
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