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  • ElMuertoMonkey
    No. Phillips and Rdogers sold the rights to Gary Reeder a few years back and he stopped production shortly thereafter.

    The main problem with the Medusa was that it could not handle +P rounds and since most people don't bother to read the instruction manual, Gary Reeder was repairing just about every Skorpion (his version of the Medusa) he sold.
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  • tsavo303
    it serves no purpose and was way to expensive.
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  • drobs
    We had 1 come through the shop a couple years ago. Was being sent back to the factory for repair. I though it was a pretty cool idea-- really the ultimate mad max gun being able to fire any .38 caliber cartridge.
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  • PC800
    I have the 6th Gary Reeder Scorpion ever built, and it will be the last gun to ever be sold. It is a superb revolver and as accurate as any Python I have ever fired. The problems that the idiot owners had with them was that the gun is not rated for +P ammo in calibers such as 9mm, and the idiot owners did not listen. And really the only problems this would cause is the flattening of the spring "fingers" in the special extractor. Thus the fingers would not spring into rimless cases such as the 9mm and would not extract them or hold them in proper place. But even if the springs were flattened, it just reverts back to being a normal K frame size 38/357 magnum. And it would still fire 38 super as the 38 super has enough rim to catch onto even without the springs being functional. And the gold inlays and the overall bluing are works of art.
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  • Ba Sardo
    I own one of the Phillips and Rogers Medusas and I have to say that it was a very nice weapon, but the extractor was very tough to work with. If you only needed six shots, it was a beautiful gun. If you could expect needing to reload, I'd go with something else, like a S&W or Ruger.
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  • PC800
    quote:Originally posted by HobbyGuy
    Pretty much a novelty weapon. I believe that multi-caliber (for lack of a better description) firearms are "sketchy" at best. The Medusa didn't have any problem with +P .38's and it also handled the .357 magnum cartridges. It just never became popular due to the price (short production = high cost). Reeder's model simply didn't stand up to the pressures (thus a sub-standard product) and failed in the marketplace in very short order. [V]


    There is nothing different between the Medusa and Reeder's Skorpion. After Colt screwed over P&R and P&R went bankrupt, Reeder just bought all the remaining parts and fitted/refinished them to his specs. The extraction on his is much smoother than the Medusa, but that is just because of his hand fitting and the finish he puts on them. As I said in my other post, the gun only has problems when +P high pressure rimless ammo is used in it, it is not rated for +P rimless ammo. Just like some other guns that are chambered in 9mm but are not rated for +P 9mm. +P 9mm pressures are way above +P 38 special pressures. If you use the wrong ammo in it, it is user error, not a sub-standard product.
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  • Warbirds
    Thanks for the read. Interesting stuff.
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  • drobs
    quote:Originally posted by PC800
    quote:Originally posted by HobbyGuy
    Pretty much a novelty weapon. I believe that multi-caliber (for lack of a better description) firearms are "sketchy" at best. The Medusa didn't have any problem with +P .38's and it also handled the .357 magnum cartridges. It just never became popular due to the price (short production = high cost). Reeder's model simply didn't stand up to the pressures (thus a sub-standard product) and failed in the marketplace in very short order. [V]


    There is nothing different between the Medusa and Reeder's Skorpion. After Colt screwed over P&R and P&R went bankrupt, Reeder just bought all the remaining parts and fitted/refinished them to his specs. The extraction on his is much smoother than the Medusa, but that is just because of his hand fitting and the finish he puts on them. As I said in my other post, the gun only has problems when +P high pressure rimless ammo is used in it, it is not rated for +P rimless ammo. Just like some other guns that are chambered in 9mm but are not rated for +P 9mm. +P 9mm pressures are way above +P 38 special pressures. If you use the wrong ammo in it, it is user error, not a sub-standard product.


    Will yours shoot 9x18?
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  • Dean Cascio
    Towards the end Phillips and Rdogers were working on a rifle. Does anyone know if anything came of it?
    Dean
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  • PC800
    quote:
    Will yours shoot 9x18?


    You mean 9x18 Makarov? It is not listed in the manual, isn't Makarov ammo actually .363? (instead of the .355-.357 of the calibers that are listed) 9x18 Ultra is listed in the manual.

    Here are the calibers as listed in the manual:
    380 ACP
    380 revolver
    9x18 ultra
    9mm Browning Patronen (long)
    9mm export
    9mm glisenti
    9mm kurz
    9mm largo
    9mm long
    9mm luger
    9mm mauser
    9mm parabellum
    9mm rimmed
    9mm steyr
    9mm win mag
    38 acp
    38 auto
    38 colt super
    38 long colt
    38 mid-range
    38 short colt
    38 S&W
    38 special +P
    38 special +P+
    357 magnum

    Then it says:

    P&R revolvers were designed to fire the cartridges listed in the chart above. DO NOT use other cartridges as they may not be safe to use in our revolver.

    The manual itself is the P&R manual with a "Gary Reeder Custom Guns, LLC" sticker on the cover. And a big red and yellow warning sticker to read page 11. (the above ammo chart)Everything inside says P&R.

    I do not know how to post pictures, but it is a fine looking gun.
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  • ElMuertoMonkey
    quote:Originally posted by Dean Cascio
    Towards the end Phillips and Rdogers were working on a rifle. Does anyone know if anything came of it?
    Dean
    Dean,

    When I last corresponded with P&R, they were getting out of the firearms manufacturing biz. They're concentrating on parts for custom jobs and upgrades.
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  • Ken Peterson
    I don't know if Gary Reeder told everybody their Skorpion was the last one made. I've own serial number 9 which he tells me is the last one to leave his custom shop! Mine has been completely redone. It is a fine weapon and I now consider it a collectors item.[:)]
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  • PC800
    quote:Originally posted by Ken Peterson
    I don't know if Gary Reeder told everybody their Skorpion was the last one made. I've own serial number 9 which he tells me is the last one to leave his custom shop! Mine has been completely redone. It is a fine weapon and I now consider it a collectors item.[:)]


    Can't see how SN 9 would be the last one made. Last time I talked to him, he told me he made 40 of them. Mine is SN 6. If yours was last he must have started with SN -31 ! Or maybe he did not number them in order? What did you have redone to it?
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  • IAMAHUSKER
    quote: it serves no purpose

    A handgun that can fire a ton of different calibers of ammo accurately and safely has no purpose??? You have to be joking.
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  • ElMuertoMonkey
    quote:Originally posted by tsavo303
    it serves no purpose and was way to expensive.
    You're right... an accurate gun that can fire a multitude of calibers without moon clips has no purpose whatesoever...
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  • IAMAHUSKER
    Dork!!
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  • Ken Peterson
    Does anybody out there have any idea when the article on the
    Medusa/Scorpion appeared in the American Handgunner Magizine?
    I am fairly sure it was in 2005 but the magizine has failed to help me.
    I had a copy but it apparently got lost or thrown out.
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  • jhoward780
    quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
    You're right... an accurate gun that can fire a multitude of calibers without moon clips has no purpose whatesoever...


    I understand you have a Model 47. I am very interested in acquiring one, and willing to pay a premium. Would you be interested in discussing this privately?
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  • ElMuertoMonkey
    jhoward,

    Regrettably I no longer possess the Medusa. I gave it to my brother for his birthday a little while back.


    However, I willlet him no that there's a party interested in that firearm and see if he's willing to part with it. I must warn you, however, that he's a big wheelgun fan, so the odds are slim to none.
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  • jhoward780
    quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
    jhoward,

    Regrettably I no longer possess the Medusa. I gave it to my brother for his birthday a little while back.


    However, I willlet him no that there's a party interested in that firearm and see if he's willing to part with it. I must warn you, however, that he's a big wheelgun fan, so the odds are slim to none.


    I would certainly appreciate your efforts, though I will understand if he isn't willing to part with a gift from his brother.
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