Bigfoot, what about a black panther!!!!!!!!!????
I hunt in south central georgia and all the experts claim that there are NO black panthers in the area. BUT I have personally heard them catch dogs. I was hunting, I heard dogs bark, I had a VERY loud screetch(probably misspelled) and then one dog hollered and then nothing. Before I could tell my father-in-law who hunts the same general area, he said that him and my sister-in-law saw two jump in the dirt road in front of them go down it a small piece and then back into the woods on the other side. He measured the tracks and stride. One foot was 4 inches and the other was 6 inches wide. The strides were 6 feet and 8 feet. He saw two big black cats(we assume black panthers because nothing else is that big down here). I would most definatly shoot them if given the chance because I am scared that they may take me out if given the chance. What do ya'll think?
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Mike
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Mike
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Panther being a couger or mountain lion, right? Possible, but melanistic individuals are quite rare. 0 -
i suppose anythings possible, i had just put a post on here yesterday of a couger that was in my house, 0 -
In east Texas and south Arkansas, I heard dozens of stories of sightings of "panthers." In each case, the cat was described as being black, not tan, but black. The cougar does have a black phase, but according to the biologists, it is extremely rare. 0 -
Totally Fierce!! 
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As long as it didn't threaten me, my property or my livestock, I would not kill it. 0 -
I would treat it like anything else, ie..bear,cougar,coyote,wolf.
If need be shoot it, if not enjoy the show they are magnificant creaters to watch in the wild.0 -
I hear them black panthers like to eat the white man...[}:)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49h1x-i830Q0 -
When I was a teenager I saw a large dark tan cat while hunting a pipeline near our farm in Arkansas late one evening, but never a black one. Sure got my attention. I've heard them scream at night near that same location and that is an eerie sound! 0 -
I saw something once here in the Ozarks that I'll swear was a black panther. It was dark, on a narrow hiway with a bank on each side, and something in front of us, large/black/catlike jumped off one bank, hit the middle of the road, and leapt on the other side...one bound.
Me and another guy saw what we both believed to be a grizzly bear, and without telling anyone got reports from others seeing one in the same area.
Have also saw 3 of what i believe to be Wolves..0 -
The NY DEC swears the are no mountain lions/panthers here in NY. Problem is, there have been too many sightings by people I kmow and trust. My hunting partner saw cat tracks that were WAY too big to be anything but a mountain lion. We have also found deer carcasses 12 to 20 feet up in the trees. Explain that, NY DEC! Their answer...."There are no mountain lions in NY!!!!"
Ooooookaaaayyyy............[:(!]0 -
The DNR said there were no mountain lions around here either, until a old lady ran one over on the highway. And, it was hard to deny the live one they caught right in the middle of Omaha, on live TV! The zoo comfirmed it was a wild cat.
None around huh?!!!
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Also no cougars in CT but I've seen them. State boys are just starting to admit there might be a couple. 0 -
wasn't it forest gump who spoiled the black panthers party[:D][:D] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by nunn
In east Texas and south Arkansas, I heard dozens of stories of sightings of "panthers." In each case, the cat was described as being black, not tan, but black. The cougar does have a black phase, but according to the biologists, it is extremely rare.
Yep. In E. Texas we don't call them cougars or mountain lions, they're panthers. I assume these are just our regional strain of cougar, but I've never heard of one around here being the normal tan/brown cougar color. Every on I've heard about has been described as very dark brown, almost black. I saw a pic of one killed in my county a few years back and it could've easily been mistaken for black from a distance.
Several years ago I was by myself and way down in the river bottoms calling for coyotes late one night. After 20-25 minutes of calling/squeaking about 100 yds. from a treeline I heard a godawful scream come from just inside the trees. I'm familiar with bobcat screams. This sounded like a cat, but was definitely no bobcat. I decided to stand up, shuffle my feet, cough several times, light a cigarette and walk away. Whatever that was, I decided to let it have this piece of woods tonight.0 -
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quote:Originally posted by nunn
In east Texas and south Arkansas, I heard dozens of stories of sightings of "panthers." In each case, the cat was described as being black, not tan, but black. The cougar does have a black phase, but according to the biologists, it is extremely rare.
Yep. In E. Texas we don't call them cougars or mountain lions, they're panthers. I assume these are just our regional strain of cougar, but I've never heard of one around here being the normal tan/brown cougar color. Every on I've heard about has been described as very dark brown, almost black. I saw a pic of one killed in my county a few years back and it could've easily been mistaken for black from a distance.
Several years ago I was by myself and way down in the river bottoms calling for coyotes late one night. After 20-25 minutes of calling/squeaking about 100 yds. from a treeline I heard a godawful scream come from just inside the trees. I'm familiar with bobcat screams. This sounded like a cat, but was definitely no bobcat. I decided to stand up, shuffle my feet, cough several times, light a cigarette and walk away. Whatever that was, I decided to let it have this piece of woods tonight.
I've heard that kind of squall too. It was at night, when all had turned in for the night, while visiting an uncle in the Livingston, Texas area. The scream was long, and far too powerful for any bobcat to muster. There were also stories of black ones too south of there around Beaumont.0 -
quote:Originally posted by guntech59
The NY DEC swears the are no mountain lions/panthers here in NY. Problem is, there have been too many sightings by people I kmow and trust. My hunting partner saw cat tracks that were WAY too big to be anything but a mountain lion. We have also found deer carcasses 12 to 20 feet up in the trees. Explain that, NY DEC! Their answer...."There are no mountain lions in NY!!!!"
Ooooookaaaayyyy............[:(!]
Same thing here in PA....Nope, nope, nope, .....0 -
Maybe one of yours escaped and made it's way up here! 0 -
It would not be completly unlikely to find a jaguar in your area.
It is also absolutly possible to find cougers/panthers/pumas in your area currently.
Cougar coloring is plain (hence the Latin concolor) but can vary greatly between individuals and even between siblings. The coat is typically tawny, but ranges to silvery-grey or reddish, with lighter patches on the under body including the jaws, chin, and throat. Infants are spotted and born with blue eyes and rings on their tails;[14] juveniles are pale, and dark spots remain on their flanks.[13] Despite anecdotes to the contrary, all-black coloring (melanism) has never been documented in cougars.[18] The term "black panther" is used colloquially to refer to melanistic individuals of other species, particularly jaguars and leopards.[19]0 -
quote:Originally posted by givette
Totally Fierce!!
I wouldn't want to mess with him.[:0] What caliber would you recommend?[?]0 -
quote:The NY DEC swears the are no mountain lions/panthers here in NY. Problem is, there have been too many sightings by people I kmow and trust.
quote: Also no cougars in CT but I've seen them. State boys are just starting to admit there might be a couple.
quote:Same thing here in PA....Nope, nope, nope, .....
Almost impossible to get an honest answer from any state game agency or from any federal wildlife agency.
They are, like the US dept of interior, nothing more than political special interest groups these days.0 -
quote:It would not be completly unlikely to find a jaguar in your area.
Actually it would be extremely unlikely that a jaguar would be in the SE US. They barely come into New Mexico and Arizona, not over 20 miles.
Cougars are certainly in NM, there is a season on them. They are not common though, which is to say that they have a huge home range. Young males born in the San Andres Mountains near White Sands leave as they reach maturity and my end up 250 miles away.0 -
extremly yes, but not completly.
taken from msn encarta.
Until quite recently, jaguars also survived further north in Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, and Texas. Two of the last remaining jaguars in North America were shot in Texas in 1946 and in Arizona in 1949. However, the species may be making a comeback into its North American range. In 1996 a mountain lion hunter photographed a young male jaguar in southeastern Arizona and, in 2001 and again in 2003, a remote surveillance camera photographed a jaguar on the Arizona-Mexico border.0 -
Could it be that the government is putting these "cats" (what ever kind they are) here to cut down on the deer population for insurance purposes. My wife killed her first deer six years ago. It was in the afternoon and time to get down. She saw two deer about 250 yards out and got VERY excited. I said shoot if you think you got a good shot. We found nothing. The next morning while leaving the field I noticed drag marks. We followed them to a doe. My wife had shot the back legs off the deer in front of the one she was shooting at. I wanted to train my bulldog to track so we went home, got him, and came back 30 mins later. The deer was gone. The dog started barking about twenty feet from where the deer was a few mins earlier. Something had moved the deer ate it's internal organ(looked like only the liver was missing) and buried it under pinestraw so that you couldn't even see it. If not a panther(or large cat) then what did this. A few years later my sister-in-law raised a fawn that's mother got ran over. After about 8 months someone called the game warden and we had to let it go. She put it in a big pen at her uncles to wait for deer season to end. She feed it for two days. The third day it was dead, liver gone, and lightly buried under grass and straw. There was a 4 foot fence and electic fence around pen(it was used for goats). What would do this. Georgia 45 miles south of Macon is where all this took place.
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I'll be glad when they're extinct myself[:D] 0 -
Arkansas game and fish has always denied cougers in Arkansas until a few months back,They now say there are cats here "there have been way too many sightings including myself" but they are not indigenous,they are claming they are cats that got loose or were released by accident FROM PRIVAYE OWNERS and have just happened to find each other and started breeding 0 -
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With all the game cam's now you'd think
one would have had his picture taken.
I've heard the scream. Never seen one.
Hunt in East Texas.0 -
cougar mateing calls are horrendous, It literally makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up, and i get goose bumps instantly.
One time had a friend from oregon over for the summer. we were up at a cabin and he wanted to sleep out in the field next to the cabin, I told him he better not theirs a cat out there in heat, he was like what ever.
just after dark she started howling, my hair stood on end and I was IN THE CABIN.
30 seconds later the door busted open and my buddy came running in dragging his sleeping bag behind him, scarred out of his mind mumbling oh f this f that holy crap, what the fk man. me and my other friend were rolling on the floor laughing with tears in our eyes.0 -
lol Reminds me of the time after i first moved here to the ozarks. Lived out in the middle of nowhere and stepped out late at night to get an armload of wood for the stove (in my underware). A large cat of some kind Screamed just a short way from the yard....talk about high steppin it back in the house..
That's what it sounded like...a woman screaming!![:0]0 -
South Carolina kept denying they were there, then they put it in the rules and regs it was illegal to kill one. would i shoot? Passedd up the shot twice. Omce at under 20 yards, and I know what I saw. Daughter and I saw one at night coming home from a hunt once. Local coon hunters have treed a couple too. 20 years ago, I asked a friend what he was drinking when he told me he saw one. Had to eat crow after I saw one. 0
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