When illegal migrants flood a city
A judge tells one city to let the feds handle immigration. But where are the feds when you need them?
A telling irony shines through last week's ruling by a federal judge that found only Congress can set immigration law. The judge knew full well that half the plaintiffs in the case were in the US illegally. But he let them challenge a city ordinance on immigration anyway - and anonymously.
And so it's been in America for too long: Turn a blind eye to the massive lawbreaking of an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants.
Imagine if a scofflaw wanted by the FBI had sued a city for enacting a criminal law tougher than a federal law. Would that person also be given a day in court?
No way. The difference, of course, is that FBI agents are vigilant in catching suspects. But federal immigration agents? Well, they do their best whenever Congress or the White House gives them a clear green light and enough resources. After all, for politicians, those millions of illegal immigrants are potential voters for whichever party gets the credit in winning them amnesty someday.
But back to the court decision itself: Should state and local governments be allowed to enact laws that penalize landlords or companies that do business with illegal immigrants and fail to check their US residency status?
In a 1986 law, Congress clearly said no, despite a long precedent in the 19th century of states regulating immigrants coming into the US. The Pennsylvania city of Hazelton, however, passed such a law and then lost the first round in the courtroom of US District Judge James Munley. The judge even postulated that perhaps the federal government does not seek "the removal of all aliens who lack legal status."
The city plans to appeal. The case, or one like it, will make an interesting Supreme Court decision in a year or so. Last April, for instance, the high court did allow states to exceed federal rules on greenhouse gases.
For now, this lower-court ruling does not apply in most of the country. That's just as well because as many as 100 other cities and towns have similar measures cracking down on illegal migrants - all because the federal government is falling down on the job.
Hazelton, for instance, has seen its population balloon with immigrants since 2001, straining schools and other resources. By some estimates, a quarter of the 30,000 residents are now illegal. The city, like many in the US, suddenly became a magnet for migrants drawn to cheap housing and low-wage jobs.
Strangely, Hazelton officials didn't get to face their accusers in court during this trial because they were allowed to remain nameless - nor did federal immigration agents show up to arrest the plaintiffs.
Another critical court case may be the legal challenge to an Arizona law, due to take effect Jan. 1, that sanctions employers who hire illegal aliens. Courts tend to give states more leeway than cities or towns to one-up federal law.
In the meantime, many cities are taking another route: training police to alert federal agents whenever they detain suspects for a local crime who can't prove their legal status.
All this shows the urgency for Congress to beef up immigration enforcement. The Hazeltons of the US can't wait.
A telling irony shines through last week's ruling by a federal judge that found only Congress can set immigration law. The judge knew full well that half the plaintiffs in the case were in the US illegally. But he let them challenge a city ordinance on immigration anyway - and anonymously.
And so it's been in America for too long: Turn a blind eye to the massive lawbreaking of an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants.
Imagine if a scofflaw wanted by the FBI had sued a city for enacting a criminal law tougher than a federal law. Would that person also be given a day in court?
No way. The difference, of course, is that FBI agents are vigilant in catching suspects. But federal immigration agents? Well, they do their best whenever Congress or the White House gives them a clear green light and enough resources. After all, for politicians, those millions of illegal immigrants are potential voters for whichever party gets the credit in winning them amnesty someday.
But back to the court decision itself: Should state and local governments be allowed to enact laws that penalize landlords or companies that do business with illegal immigrants and fail to check their US residency status?
In a 1986 law, Congress clearly said no, despite a long precedent in the 19th century of states regulating immigrants coming into the US. The Pennsylvania city of Hazelton, however, passed such a law and then lost the first round in the courtroom of US District Judge James Munley. The judge even postulated that perhaps the federal government does not seek "the removal of all aliens who lack legal status."
The city plans to appeal. The case, or one like it, will make an interesting Supreme Court decision in a year or so. Last April, for instance, the high court did allow states to exceed federal rules on greenhouse gases.
For now, this lower-court ruling does not apply in most of the country. That's just as well because as many as 100 other cities and towns have similar measures cracking down on illegal migrants - all because the federal government is falling down on the job.
Hazelton, for instance, has seen its population balloon with immigrants since 2001, straining schools and other resources. By some estimates, a quarter of the 30,000 residents are now illegal. The city, like many in the US, suddenly became a magnet for migrants drawn to cheap housing and low-wage jobs.
Strangely, Hazelton officials didn't get to face their accusers in court during this trial because they were allowed to remain nameless - nor did federal immigration agents show up to arrest the plaintiffs.
Another critical court case may be the legal challenge to an Arizona law, due to take effect Jan. 1, that sanctions employers who hire illegal aliens. Courts tend to give states more leeway than cities or towns to one-up federal law.
In the meantime, many cities are taking another route: training police to alert federal agents whenever they detain suspects for a local crime who can't prove their legal status.
All this shows the urgency for Congress to beef up immigration enforcement. The Hazeltons of the US can't wait.
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In short, the Federal judge gave the illegals the right to sue the goverment. Ain't that grand.[}:)][:(!] 0 -
Our Border agents are to serve and serve time in jail if they do their job. That Judge need to be thrown out of office and we should be able to export illegals that think we owe them everything. We should be able to sue Mexico for not taking care of it's people/[:(!][V][xx(][:(] 0 -
But yet so many here blame the states like CA, TX, AZ, Fla, for the flaws-[:I]
quote:A telling irony shines through last week's ruling by a federal judge that found only Congress can set immigration law. The judge knew full well that half the plaintiffs in the case were in the US illegally. But he let them challenge a city ordinance on immigration anyway - and anonymously.
And so it's been in America for too long: Turn a blind eye to the massive lawbreaking of an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants.0 -
Yep, gonna start flyin that rebel flag (and stocking up ammo)!!!![:(!][V][:(!][V] 0 -
Seems to me this problem was "taken care?" of already ( but not carried out). If true, something smells bad. (Check out in Google the REX 84
Camps. If true, it sure makes one wonder.) I wonder just what these Camps were realy built for?? Surely not for Illegals.
Just part of one of many.... " U.S. CONCENTRATION CAMPS
FEMA AND THE REX 84 PROGRAM
There over 600 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States.
The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a mass exodus of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons. " ... I cant help but wonder what is meant by " mass exodus" of Illegal Aliens. To me, 12,000,000 is pretty "mass".0 -
Move to higher ground, thats what I did. The air is thinner, cleaner and smells like white linen. 0 -
Looks like it is about time for "direct action"[}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)][}:)] 
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quote:Originally posted by joeaf1911a1
Seems to me this problem was "taken care?" of already ( but not carried out). If true, something smells bad. (Check out in Google the REX 84
Camps. If true, it sure makes one wonder.) I wonder just what these Camps were realy built for?? Surely not for Illegals.
Just part of one of many.... " U.S. CONCENTRATION CAMPS
FEMA AND THE REX 84 PROGRAM
There over 600 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States.
The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a mass exodus of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons. " ... I cant help but wonder what is meant by " mass exodus" of Illegal Aliens. To me, 12,000,000 is pretty "mass".
Joe, do you have a link for this Rex 84 stuff?0 -
Rack Ops.
Just type it in,hit go,and enlighten yourself! And be sure to read the wikipedia description!
Would be suggested reading for anyone that's not already aware of this.
Should be a warning for those who think it's time to hit the streets! They have already anticipated this. It's what they want. An excuse! Any excuse!
Better to take a few lessons from "uncle Ho" or (if you want to keep it strictly American)"the yawner"!
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quote:Originally posted by spryor
Yep, gonna start flyin that rebel flag (and stocking up ammo)!!!![:(!][V][:(!][V]
Rebels; I dont think so! We were fighting for our rights.
Da#$n yankees! [:(!]0 -
Yeah, yeah I know. However I wonder how many would be wearing grey or blue on where they live; or loyalities lie? 0 -
Mmaybe they can't use them as prisons now,they need places to park all those damn trailer houses. 0
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