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Surprise high-school senior Kim Peters carries an Olympic identification badge and an Arizona skeet-shooting members' card, but neither got her out of a four-day suspension for bringing shotgun shells onto school grounds.
The 17-year-old started competitive clay shooting her freshman year at the urging of her mom and stepfather.
She has since won several trophies in the male-dominated sport and in August was one of 18 athletes across the nation to attend this year's Junior Olympic shooting camp in Colorado Springs, Colo.
But the hobby got Peters into trouble last week. Willow Canyon High School administrators disciplined Peters after a security guard noticed two unopened boxes of the shells sitting in the back seat of the student's white sport utility vehicle. There was no gun.
Peters said her 12-hours-a-week practice schedule got so hectic that she forgot to unload the ammunition from her vehicle as she was running late for school Tuesday morning.
To beat the bell, she said she took a shortcut and parked in a visitors-only lot closest to the school. The guard spotted the shells while ticketing her for parking in the non-student area.
Now, Peters fears the resulting punishment will cloud her permanent record as she applies to colleges. Her family is fighting the Dysart Unified School District to get the offense, possession of a "dangerous instrument," expunged.
Administrators stand by their decision and rejected the family's first appeal last week.
"We can never comment on a specific situation with a student (due to privacy laws), but what I can say is that whenever we are dealing with any infraction . . . our duties involve keeping students in a safe and secure environment," Dysart Superintendent Gail Pletnick said.
Peters called her own actions "careless" but said she doesn't feel the punishment fits the crime.
"They searched me and they searched my car," she said.
Searchers discovered that Peters had cigarettes in the car, an offense also punishable by suspension. Though Peters technically violated three school rules, she was punished only for the shells, according to a Dysart disciplinary-incident form sent home with Peters.
Arguing that Peters proved she regularly uses the shells for sport, her father, Tony, asked administrators to swap the ammunition offense for the cigarette offense. Tony said he felt anyone requesting his daughter's behavior records might be more sympathetic to a "tobacco" violation vs. a "dangerous instrument" violation. He said he feels the latter unfairly implies that his daughter brought a gun or bomb into the school building. When officials refused to make the swap, Tony accused the district of overreacting and trying to make an inappropriate example out of his daughter.
The Peterses also cite a 2007 federal education statute that explicitly excludes shotguns and shotgun shells from being categorized as a destructive device because they are primarily used for sport. Despite the statute, districts are free to take disciplinary actions where they see fit, according to the Arizona Department of Education.
Pletnick said that school shootings at Columbine High School and Virginia Tech have forced school districts everywhere to re-evaluate and tighten their safety standards.
Peters said she is still trying to drum up support for her position and has started by contacting some of her target-shooting mentors.
Zach Snow, a promotions coordinator with the National Shooting Sports Foundation, said other athletes have reported similar complaints in the past, prompting professional shooters and the National Rifle Association to come to their defense.
He said the most notable case was when a group of students was sent home for wearing foundation T-shirts, which pictured a silhouette of a shooter holding a rifle. But Snow said to his knowledge, Peters' situation is the first of its kind.
She is scheduled to return to school Tuesday.
Surprise high-school senior Kim Peters carries an Olympic identification badge and an Arizona skeet-shooting members' card, but neither got her out of a four-day suspension for bringing shotgun shells onto school grounds.
The 17-year-old started competitive clay shooting her freshman year at the urging of her mom and stepfather.
She has since won several trophies in the male-dominated sport and in August was one of 18 athletes across the nation to attend this year's Junior Olympic shooting camp in Colorado Springs, Colo.
But the hobby got Peters into trouble last week. Willow Canyon High School administrators disciplined Peters after a security guard noticed two unopened boxes of the shells sitting in the back seat of the student's white sport utility vehicle. There was no gun.
Peters said her 12-hours-a-week practice schedule got so hectic that she forgot to unload the ammunition from her vehicle as she was running late for school Tuesday morning.
To beat the bell, she said she took a shortcut and parked in a visitors-only lot closest to the school. The guard spotted the shells while ticketing her for parking in the non-student area.
Now, Peters fears the resulting punishment will cloud her permanent record as she applies to colleges. Her family is fighting the Dysart Unified School District to get the offense, possession of a "dangerous instrument," expunged.
Administrators stand by their decision and rejected the family's first appeal last week.
"We can never comment on a specific situation with a student (due to privacy laws), but what I can say is that whenever we are dealing with any infraction . . . our duties involve keeping students in a safe and secure environment," Dysart Superintendent Gail Pletnick said.
Peters called her own actions "careless" but said she doesn't feel the punishment fits the crime.
"They searched me and they searched my car," she said.
Searchers discovered that Peters had cigarettes in the car, an offense also punishable by suspension. Though Peters technically violated three school rules, she was punished only for the shells, according to a Dysart disciplinary-incident form sent home with Peters.
Arguing that Peters proved she regularly uses the shells for sport, her father, Tony, asked administrators to swap the ammunition offense for the cigarette offense. Tony said he felt anyone requesting his daughter's behavior records might be more sympathetic to a "tobacco" violation vs. a "dangerous instrument" violation. He said he feels the latter unfairly implies that his daughter brought a gun or bomb into the school building. When officials refused to make the swap, Tony accused the district of overreacting and trying to make an inappropriate example out of his daughter.
The Peterses also cite a 2007 federal education statute that explicitly excludes shotguns and shotgun shells from being categorized as a destructive device because they are primarily used for sport. Despite the statute, districts are free to take disciplinary actions where they see fit, according to the Arizona Department of Education.
Pletnick said that school shootings at Columbine High School and Virginia Tech have forced school districts everywhere to re-evaluate and tighten their safety standards.
Peters said she is still trying to drum up support for her position and has started by contacting some of her target-shooting mentors.
Zach Snow, a promotions coordinator with the National Shooting Sports Foundation, said other athletes have reported similar complaints in the past, prompting professional shooters and the National Rifle Association to come to their defense.
He said the most notable case was when a group of students was sent home for wearing foundation T-shirts, which pictured a silhouette of a shooter holding a rifle. But Snow said to his knowledge, Peters' situation is the first of its kind.
She is scheduled to return to school Tuesday.
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zero tolerance sucks... Damn right. Zero tolerance = Liberal insanity . 0 -
And to think that my high school had a shooting team, ammo on school grounds..... it was part of class[}:)] 0 -
4 days? My daughter got suspended for the rest of the semester. School parking lot monitor spotted a small pocketknife that had fallen out of one her male friends pocket, in the back seat of her car. She didn't even know it was there.
This was in Sept. just a couple of weeks into the 1st semester of her Senior year. Now she will not graduate w/her class.
School officals said it was "their duty" to expell this kid who has never been in ANY trouble, and is not a threat to anyone.
She will not be returning to school. But instead plans to get her GED.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Fatstrat
4 days? My daughter got suspended for the rest of the semester. School parking lot monitor spotted a small pocketknife that had fallen out of one her male friends pocket, in the back seat of her car. She didn't even know it was there.
This was in Sept. just a couple of weeks into the 1st semester of her Senior year. Now she will not graduate w/her class.
School officals said it was "their duty" to expell this kid who has never been in ANY trouble, and is not a threat to anyone.
She will not be returning to school. But instead plans to get her GED.
That makes my blood boil. What a crock!
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We used to keep shotguns and .22's in our cars in the school parking lot so we could go squirrel hunting after school. I even brought an old Kettner double barrel into my graphic arts class so I could take close up pics of it. My teacher told me to bring it in. Kept it in my locker all day. Stupid rules like this are not going to prevent violence. 0 -
this is stupid crap done by stupid people...how they bang on this while so much worse is going on is just galling....can she finish at another school close without blemish?? will the NRA & other groups rally around ??? 0 -
Times change.
We could take guns to high school, and leave them locked in our cars.
My old car's doors wouldn't lock, and neither would the trunk.
It was a 1954 Plymouth that I bought for $25.00
I carried my shotgun, .22 rifle, whatever, across the campus to the Administration building, and left it with the principal, picked it up after school, and went hunting. Even left my .22 revolver with him a few times. Strapped it on my hip walking across campus, so I could carry my shotgun and books.[:D]
Times change.0 -
Another reminder that I am pleased that I won't be around in another 20 years.
Doug0 -
All i can tell y'all is . GET USED TO IT! It's NOT going to change...[V]
Until the voters get rid of these paranoid legislators..
Jeff0 -
quote:Originally posted by fishkiller41
All i can tell y'all is . GET USED TO IT! It's NOT going to change...[V]
Until the voters get rid of these paranoid legislators..
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I THOUGHT TOLERANCE IS WHAT THIS COUNTRY IS SUPPOSE TO BE ABOUT?!?!?!
Let's see we tolerate: We don't tolerate:
1. Illegals 1. Christianity
2. Homosexuals 2. The American Flag
3. Communists 3. The Pledge of Allegiance
4. Transvestites 4. Military Recruiters
5. Abortion 5. The Minutemen
6. Pornography 6. Freedom of Speach
7. Islam in schools 7. White men over 40
8. Non-English speakers 8. 2nd Amendment0 -
quote:Originally posted by The Dutchman
I THOUGHT TOLERANCE IS WHAT THIS COUNTRY IS SUPPOSE TO BE ABOUT?!?!?!
Let's see we tolerate: We don't tolerate:
1. Illegals 1. Christianity
2. Homosexuals 2. The American Flag
3. Communists 3. The Pledge of Allegiance
4. Transvestites 4. Military Recruiters
5. Abortion 5. The Minutemen
6. Pornography 6. Freedom of Speach
7. Islam in schools 7. White men over 40
8. Non-English speakers 8. 2nd Amendment
You nailed it.0 -
Yep, good people, the machine of liberal govt keeps rolling along and the leftwing crackpot brigade-evidence is everywhere.The waste matter is piling up, and soon Pikes Peak will disappear beneath it. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Sturmgewehr
The waste matter is piling up, and soon Pikes Peak will disappear beneath it.
I got a canoe.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Rockatansky
quote:Originally posted by Sturmgewehr
The waste matter is piling up, and soon Pikes Peak will disappear beneath it.
I got a canoe.
Will you take Rupees?0 -
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quote:Originally posted by Sturmgewehr
quote:Originally posted by Rockatansky
quote:Originally posted by Sturmgewehr
The waste matter is piling up, and soon Pikes Peak will disappear beneath it.
I got a canoe.
Will you take Rupees?
No, all I take is 5.56mm NATO or 7.62x39.0 -
quote:Originally posted by The Dutchman
I THOUGHT TOLERANCE IS WHAT THIS COUNTRY IS SUPPOSE TO BE ABOUT?!?!?!
Let's see we tolerate: We don't tolerate:
1. Illegals 1. Christianity
2. Homosexuals 2. The American Flag
3. Communists 3. The Pledge of Allegiance
4. Transvestites 4. Military Recruiters
5. Abortion 5. The Minutemen
6. Pornography 6. Freedom of Speach
7. Islam in schools 7. White men over 40
8. Non-English speakers 8. 2nd Amendment
That pretty much covers it. Sad, ain't it. I'll never quite understand how things have evolved that way...0 -
i got my truck and me searched once in high school, there were a few empty shell cases in the bed, rusty old .22 cases, maybe a few 7.62x39 and 12 guage hulls, but all of them were empty and had been there for quite some time and pretty rusty, but when i came out to my truck to drive home, the principal, vice principal and a local cop were there to search me and my vehicle on "suspicion of carrying a deadly weapon"
my grandpa tells stories of taking his shotgun to school so he could go hunting afterwards.
different times, i'm sorry i was born so late in the erosion of our Nation [V]0 -
when I was in school during deer season there was proably 200 rifles in lockers every time I see Red Dawn I keep thinking if the Russians would have picked my high school during deer season they wouldn't have a chance. What ever happen to common sense 0 -
quote:Originally posted by The Dutchman
I THOUGHT TOLERANCE IS WHAT THIS COUNTRY IS SUPPOSE TO BE ABOUT?!?!?!
Let's see we tolerate: We don't tolerate:
1. Illegals 1. Christianity
2. Homosexuals 2. The American Flag
3. Communists 3. The Pledge of Allegiance
4. Transvestites 4. Military Recruiters
5. Abortion 5. The Minutemen
6. Pornography 6. Freedom of Speach
7. Islam in schools 7. White men over 40
8. Non-English speakers 8. 2nd Amendment
Amen
It is a shame.
My Grandfather was a Italian immigrant via Ellis Island and he would be irate today.
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+1 and if you didn't have a gun rack in your truck.People would look at you funny.[:D] quote:Originally posted by ljwrench
We used to keep shotguns and .22's in our cars in the school parking lot so we could go squirrel hunting after school. I even brought an old Kettner double barrel into my graphic arts class so I could take close up pics of it. My teacher told me to bring it in. Kept it in my locker all day. Stupid rules like this are not going to prevent violence.0 -
I not only had rifles and shotguns in my gun rack of my pickup, I had a pistol on the dash. I also once took a coyote to show and tell for my government class. Don 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Fatstrat
4 days? My daughter got suspended for the rest of the semester. School parking lot monitor spotted a small pocketknife that had fallen out of one her male friends pocket, in the back seat of her car. She didn't even know it was there.
This was in Sept. just a couple of weeks into the 1st semester of her Senior year. Now she will not graduate w/her class.
School officals said it was "their duty" to expell this kid who has never been in ANY trouble, and is not a threat to anyone.
She will not be returning to school. But instead plans to get her GED.
Sounds like "One Child Left Behind" due to zero tolerance.0 -
things sure have changed, in the 70's
we all had our easy rider rifle racks.
and yes they were rifles and shotguns
in them. How else could we go hunting
after skipping class.0 -
quote:Originally posted by dcon12
I not only had rifles and shotguns in my gun rack of my pickup, I had a pistol on the dash. I also once took a coyote to show and tell for my government class. Don
Dang Don,U gettin a bit long-winded? By far the longest post i've seen from you, in the time i've been here..[;)]0 -
Graduated in 1986. We had guns all over the place. We all went hunting before school, after school.....we shot skeet in FFA during school hours, with all the students there, nobody ever got hurt or killed. What a disturbing bunch of hooey. [V] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by dcon12
I not only had rifles and shotguns in my gun rack of my pickup, I had a pistol on the dash. I also once took a coyote to show and tell for my government class. Don
Was it dead or alive?......0 -
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If you were to have walked through my high school parking lot back in the early 70's you would have seen a rifle or shotgun hanging in the gun rack of almost every truck. Even the principle kept one in his. That was in East Texas back then, and I am sure it isn't that way now.[V]
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