Big Weird Islamic Creationism
"Donations" funded the production and shipment of thousands
of copies of a massive Islamic creationist book worldwide.
Better than funding car bombs, since all it seems to be
hurting is Islamic science.
Islamic Creationist and a Book Sent Round the World
By CORNELIA DEAN
Published: July 17, 2007 New York Times
Adnan Oktar of Turkey, who, under the name Harun Yahya, has produced numerous books, videos and DVDs on science and faith, in particular what he calls the "deceit" inherent in the theory of evolution. One of his books, "Atlas of Creation," is turning up, unsolicited, in mailboxes of scientists around the country and members of Congress, and at science museums in places like Queens and Bemidji, Minn.
At 11 x 17 inches and 12 pounds, with a bright red cover and almost 800 glossy pages, most of them lavishly illustrated, "Atlas of Creation" is probably the largest and most beautiful creationist challenge yet to Darwin's theory, which Mr. Yahya calls a feeble and perverted ideology contradicted by the Koran.
The book caused a stir earlier this year when a French translation materialized at high schools, universities and museums in France. Until then, creationist literature was relatively rare in France, according to Armand de Ricqles, a professor of historical biology and evolutionism at the College de France. Scientists spoke out against the book, he said in an e-mail message, and "thanks to the highly centralized public school system in France, it was possible to organize that the books sent to lyc?es would not be made available to children."
"In our country we are used to nonsense like this," said Kevin Padian, an evolutionary biologist at the University of California, Berkeley, who, like colleagues there, found a copy in his mailbox.
He said people who had received copies were "just astounded at its size and production values and equally astonished at what a load of crap it is."If he sees a picture of an old fossil crab or something, he says, `See, it looks just like a regular crab, there's no evolution,' " Dr. Padian said. "Extinction does not seem to bother him. He does not really have any sense of what we know about how things change through time."
Kenneth R. Miller, a biologist at Brown University, said he and his colleagues in the life sciences had all received copies. When he called friends at the University of Colorado and the University of Chicago, they had the books too, he said. Scientists at Brigham Young University, the University of Connecticut, the University of Georgia and others have also received them.
"I think he must have sent it to every full professor in the medical school," said Kathryn L. Calame, a microbiologist at the Columbia University medical school who received a copy. "The genetics department, the biochem department, micro - everybody I talked to had it."
While they said they were unimpressed with the book's content, recipients marveled at its apparent cost. "If you went into a bookstore and saw a book like this, it would be at least $100," said Dr. Miller, an author of conventional biology texts. "The production costs alone are astronomical. We are talking millions of dollars."
....Support for creationism is also widespread among Muslims, said Dr. Taner Edis of Truman State University in Missouri, whose book "An Illusion of Harmony: Science and Religion in Islam" was published by Prometheus Books this spring.
"Taken at face value, the Koran is a creationist text," he said, adding that it would be difficult to find a scholar of Islam "who is going to be gung-ho about Darwin."
Perhaps as a result, he said, Mr. Yahya's books and other publications have won him attention in Islamic areas. "This is a guy with some influence," Dr. Edis said, "unfortunately for mainstream science."
http://www.harunyahya.com/books/darwinism/atlas_creation/atlas_creation_01.php
Sounds fair to me!
[:D]
of copies of a massive Islamic creationist book worldwide.
Better than funding car bombs, since all it seems to be
hurting is Islamic science.
Islamic Creationist and a Book Sent Round the World
By CORNELIA DEAN
Published: July 17, 2007 New York Times
Adnan Oktar of Turkey, who, under the name Harun Yahya, has produced numerous books, videos and DVDs on science and faith, in particular what he calls the "deceit" inherent in the theory of evolution. One of his books, "Atlas of Creation," is turning up, unsolicited, in mailboxes of scientists around the country and members of Congress, and at science museums in places like Queens and Bemidji, Minn.
At 11 x 17 inches and 12 pounds, with a bright red cover and almost 800 glossy pages, most of them lavishly illustrated, "Atlas of Creation" is probably the largest and most beautiful creationist challenge yet to Darwin's theory, which Mr. Yahya calls a feeble and perverted ideology contradicted by the Koran.
The book caused a stir earlier this year when a French translation materialized at high schools, universities and museums in France. Until then, creationist literature was relatively rare in France, according to Armand de Ricqles, a professor of historical biology and evolutionism at the College de France. Scientists spoke out against the book, he said in an e-mail message, and "thanks to the highly centralized public school system in France, it was possible to organize that the books sent to lyc?es would not be made available to children."
"In our country we are used to nonsense like this," said Kevin Padian, an evolutionary biologist at the University of California, Berkeley, who, like colleagues there, found a copy in his mailbox.
He said people who had received copies were "just astounded at its size and production values and equally astonished at what a load of crap it is."If he sees a picture of an old fossil crab or something, he says, `See, it looks just like a regular crab, there's no evolution,' " Dr. Padian said. "Extinction does not seem to bother him. He does not really have any sense of what we know about how things change through time."
Kenneth R. Miller, a biologist at Brown University, said he and his colleagues in the life sciences had all received copies. When he called friends at the University of Colorado and the University of Chicago, they had the books too, he said. Scientists at Brigham Young University, the University of Connecticut, the University of Georgia and others have also received them.
"I think he must have sent it to every full professor in the medical school," said Kathryn L. Calame, a microbiologist at the Columbia University medical school who received a copy. "The genetics department, the biochem department, micro - everybody I talked to had it."
While they said they were unimpressed with the book's content, recipients marveled at its apparent cost. "If you went into a bookstore and saw a book like this, it would be at least $100," said Dr. Miller, an author of conventional biology texts. "The production costs alone are astronomical. We are talking millions of dollars."
....Support for creationism is also widespread among Muslims, said Dr. Taner Edis of Truman State University in Missouri, whose book "An Illusion of Harmony: Science and Religion in Islam" was published by Prometheus Books this spring.
"Taken at face value, the Koran is a creationist text," he said, adding that it would be difficult to find a scholar of Islam "who is going to be gung-ho about Darwin."
Perhaps as a result, he said, Mr. Yahya's books and other publications have won him attention in Islamic areas. "This is a guy with some influence," Dr. Edis said, "unfortunately for mainstream science."
http://www.harunyahya.com/books/darwinism/atlas_creation/atlas_creation_01.php
Sounds fair to me!
[:D]
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Too bad all of their attempts at indoctrination aren't as docile as this.
They remind me a lot of the Klingons. Total distaste for science and even hate the scientists. Probably that's why they are still in the dark ages.
I forget, did the Klingons steal all of their technology?0 -
I think so - except for the 'Warbird Cloak Technology.'
... come to think of it - they prolly stole that, too!0 -
Yeah , why didn't Enterprise ever have cloak technology! That has always pissed me off! We had that phase-shift cloak once too, that was the best. I think it was under Picard though, an obvious Liberal. Kirk would have kept it. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by zipperzap
I think so - except for the 'Warbird Cloak Technology.'
... come to think of it - they prolly stole that, too!
The Klingons got cloaking technology through a treaty with the Romulans.0 -
quote:The Klingons got cloaking technology through a treaty with the Romulans.
I didn't know that! No kidding!
That's almost serious enough
to force me to return my
honorary Star Fleet Membership
Ring!
I'm a proud "Trekkie" .. since the
beginning!
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Come on folks... why isn't anyone leaping to this guy's defense? He doesn't believe in evolution and espouses creationism! Why, isn't that the "alternative theory" so many folks seem hellbent on having taught in our schools?[}:)] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
Come on folks... why isn't anyone leaping to this guy's defense? He doesn't believe in evolution and espouses creationism! Why, isn't that the "alternative theory" so many folks seem hellbent on having taught in our schools?[}:)]
Do you argue with a 2 year old about important matters? It's best just to enjoy it for what it is, humor.0 -
slipgate,
What I find truly hilarious is that so many folks say women should stay at home and should not vote and evolution is "junk science"...
... yet say Muslims treat their women poorly because they're forced to stay at home and can't vote and call them stupid for espousing creationism.
Now THAT'S funny![}:)]0 -
"Weird Islamic Creationism"
To me, the title of this thread is reduddant twice over.0 -
quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
Come on folks... why isn't anyone leaping to this guy's defense? He doesn't believe in evolution and espouses creationism! Why, isn't that the "alternative theory" so many folks seem hellbent on having taught in our schools?[}:)]
OK, I'll take the bait. While Idon't particularly care about a Muslim's supposition that Darwin contradicts the Koran, he does contradict the Biblical account of creation. I have no idea what brand of "science" he used, but pictures of fossils are not "evidence" of anything unless there is a fossilized transitional species, which there isn't.0
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