On low-flow toilets....asking the 'experts.'
I've lifted this from elsewhere ... but ... I'm curious about the experience(s) folks here
have had ... 'on the subject!' ... we got the Standard 'one bucket of golf balls' super turbocharged flusher (still a 1.6 gpf)!
First let me start by saying that I'm not trying to be funny or gross in this post, this is an honest query and someone here a while back made me aware of a black market in standard-capacity toilets (no joke) so I ask this question:
Recently, I got new toilets in my house. These are "low-flow" 1.6 gallons per flush.
I'm not entirely certain if the prior toilets were standard capacity, (3 GPF) but I'm pretty sure they were, as I now usually have to flush twice after making use of it.
Question:
Do most of you find you have to flush twice after #2 with low-flow toilets?
I don't think I need to point out the stupidity and irony of our infinitely wise government requiring half-capacity toilets that need to be flushed twice....thus using exactly as much water as the "wasteful" toilets they replaced.....
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have had ... 'on the subject!' ... we got the Standard 'one bucket of golf balls' super turbocharged flusher (still a 1.6 gpf)!
First let me start by saying that I'm not trying to be funny or gross in this post, this is an honest query and someone here a while back made me aware of a black market in standard-capacity toilets (no joke) so I ask this question:
Recently, I got new toilets in my house. These are "low-flow" 1.6 gallons per flush.
I'm not entirely certain if the prior toilets were standard capacity, (3 GPF) but I'm pretty sure they were, as I now usually have to flush twice after making use of it.
Question:
Do most of you find you have to flush twice after #2 with low-flow toilets?
I don't think I need to point out the stupidity and irony of our infinitely wise government requiring half-capacity toilets that need to be flushed twice....thus using exactly as much water as the "wasteful" toilets they replaced.....
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I don't think ANY toilet would flush the amount of crap that is in this forum.[:D] 0 -
quote:rogue_rob:
I don't think ANY toilet would flush the amount of crap that is in this forum[:D]
Looks like Big John's got a partial solution!
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Some days I could use one of those 'Big Johns'........with a 5 point harness![^] 0 -
Them little people toilets are merely toys. 0 -
I got the low flow terlets and have multiple flushes is required for solid matter.
I suppose it saves water for when you flush urine only. I should count how many flushes I do in a week vs the amount of flushes I would do in a week with an old terlet and see which one uses less water over time.0 -
I just put in the new Kohler "super flushers" that you were mentioning, where the guy flushes everything in the house down the toilet![:D]
They are a bit loud, but seem to work good.
I have noticed that they don't "rinse" as well as the old ones though.0 -
9 out of 10 times it takes 2, somtimes 3.
What a bunch of crap !!0 -
Most usless idea invented by man. Not worth a damn. Clog sewer lines
on a too frequent basis. If we have this water shortage lets stop importing people.0 -
Apparently there is a whole new engineering field dedicated to efficient poop removal because the 1.6GPF toilets that were installed in our new home work flawlessly, no extra flushes required. That's coming from someone who is told on a recurring basis that he is full of it.[:D]
A cautionary note, the water turbulence exhibited during each flush is something that a person would not want to get caught up in; I'm not sure how they achieve that kind of action with so little water.[:0]0 -
quote:Originally posted by Old-Colts
Apparently there is a whole new engineering field dedicated to efficient poop removal because the 1.6GPF toilets that were installed in our new home work flawlessly, no extra flushes required. That's coming from someone who is told on a recurring basis that he is full of it.[:D]
A cautionary note, the water turbulence exhibited during each flush is something that a person would not want to get caught up in; I'm not sure how they achieve that kind of action with so little water.[:0]
You obviously have one like I was talking about!![:D]0 -
I have the 1.6G/6L flushers - I recently noted a leak at the base of one, and had to reseat the toilet. While I was in there, I "cleaned up" the neck of the piping, and made sure everything was clean and dry. I used new seals, and made certain I got everything nice and tight, and centered over the "hole". (I had carefully measured everything and then calculated exactly where the outsides of the toilet would have to be to have the fittings exactly line up). It resulted in the unit being a half inch or so offset in the room, but now it flushes really well, only needing double flushes on those rare occasions when I eat too much pizza and two days worth piles out all at once.
I then went around the house and found that all the others had not leaked where I could see it, but that they were all mounted with the pipes not quite lining up, and that two of the three toilets had gaps in the seal - not enough to leak, but enough to allow air in when flushed. Any little Air gap will KILL the siphon effect every time - that was what the problem was. If you are heavy weights, or if you have visitors who are, if you have really hot weather, if you haven't reset your toilets in ten years, if you have an uneven floor and the toilet rocks, you have air gaps, and your toilets will fail to flush well. Center the pipes and get a good seal, and they work as advertised, almost every time. Make sure you don't mash the seal so that it protrudes into the pipes.0 -
never had to flush twice. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by joeaf1911a1
Most usless idea invented by man. Not worth a damn. Clog sewer lines
on a too frequent basis. If we have this water shortage lets stop importing people.
I agree with the warning Joe inserts here on the clogging factor. Especially incompatable are older houses that do not yet have the main line replaced with PVC at a sufficient downgrade.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Old-Colts
Apparently there is a whole new engineering field dedicated to efficient poop removal because the 1.6GPF toilets that were installed in our new home work flawlessly, no extra flushes required. That's coming from someone who is told on a recurring basis that he is full of it.[:D]
A cautionary note, the water turbulence exhibited during each flush is something that a person would not want to get caught up in; I'm not sure how they achieve that kind of action with so little water.[:0]
I think the "key" to a good flush with the low volume toilets is how much "drop" you have underneath them. The more drop you have, the more suction I think.... But I'm not a plumber.0 -
At my work we never flush
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On deployment in Kuwait and later in Iraq, all the toilets were low flow, due to the obvious water shortages. They worked just fine, especially considering my diet (and the diet of the thousands of other servicemembers on the base) was almost exclusively based on what was offered in the DFAC. You do need to be careful to not use too much paper though. 0 -
I flush 3 sometimes 4 times. 0 -
I've had both high and low flow some work good some don't, I think it has more to do with design than water quantity. 0 -
I'm a multi-flusher.
Old toilet = 3gpf X 1 flush = 3 gallons of H2O
New toilet = 1.6gpf X 2 flush minimum = 3.2 gallons of H2O (minimum)
How the heck is that conserving water?0 -
You should try one of those compressed air toilets like they use on cruise ships. One flush and the waste is GONE !! 0 -
One flush here. I dump a five gallon bucket of rain water down it. Works great, and that "non-metered discharge" gaves on the water bill. 0 -
I just poop in a hole 0
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